Larz Zahn

lets not forget that the guyver manga took liberties in the xday event. their feats of strength in those panels contradicted everything we know about zoanoids. its a good chance that those particular zoanoids lifting those tanks were a careless oversight that was done for the intimidating and impressive factor. guvyer versus aliens. guyver in my opinion, would own them, but he would have to maintain range, if he gets overrun, he'll still kill some xeno, but the splatter will hurt. HURT. this blood of theirs eats thru metal, body armor, and ship bulkheads. quickly. i have no problem thinking it can eat thru the guyver armor. and then there is the speed factor. guyver is fast, and faster than an alien, but mostly xeno's hunt in swarms. even if the splatter doesnt spray on him, his hfb will only have a couple of shots, and i'm being conservative in the acids potency. and to the thought that blood dont get around in fight, let me remind you of the parts in guyver where he is covered in blood after fighting a zoanoid. like the first time he killed a gergore, his hands were soaked.

honestly, i dont think imakarum is that far behind guyot in ruthlessness and personality anymore. he didnt hesitate to kill sho, or even slaughter civilians just to prove a point to agito. think of him like an evil twin of the murakami we all knew and loved, all his memories, but none of his allegiance. him and guyot seem to share a lot of base traits in personality, only now, imakarum is devoted to alky.

I was reading thru some older topics, the science thread, and I have an idea. Find some way to destroy the organs on shos back that calls the guyver. It'll be stuck in the boost dimension! You can either drug sho before hand or tranquilizer him whenever, and then cut them out. Or just hit that spot with something explosive.

I don't think it'll be a one sided fight like that, but I'm leaning on the side of a Guyver host winning. Maybe not killing an entity, but definitely defeating its avatar extention. Sho alone has the strength of will now and the self confidence to resist any illusion or spiritual attack, (the soul thing). Bill did it, so I'm confident that sho could. I'm not sure about just any guyver host, the soul attack would have to depend on the individual character. And since we are merging universes, the turtle should back sho, like he did bill. I believe that's what you said, godzilla? The turtle backed bill? As sho is a hero character, like bill, he should be given the same backing. Let's focus a bit on the Guyver portion a bit. We had a ton of IT info now lol! So, would the Guyvers protection of mental control help a host in this sense? And when? All times or when the unit is equipped? I mentioned before it's my opinion it blocks the control part but not the telepathy itself?

What's chud?

IT being an being a cosmic God is news to me. My cousin and sone friends at work have read the novel, and they never mentioned it being an entity, my cousin just says it's a alien who uses fear and psychic abilities. Sully, have you read the novel any? I'm on the fence about a Guyver immunity to telepathy. We know that the Guyver unit 0 freed it's slave host from the mental commands of the creators... but did it block the telepathy itself? Keep in mind that the creators are telepathic, the relic was using telepathy comms, and the creators use guyvers aa well.

Alright so like the title says, how would this play out against each other? I never read the books so i'll rely heavily on those who had. Would a creature like IT stand a chance? Or would the guyvers host become dinner?

Ok you got me on the ship. And if the longevity is a species trait that's fine, I just dont see a Guyver unit effecting the host body unless it's equipped. And instantly making someone young or putting them in age stasis doesnt really fit in the style of guyver. But I don't like making conjecture, I rather make assumptions based off what has already been seen in the manga. To answer the the topics question. A enzyme type with full Control of my body, with flight and razells (is that him?) Stealth ability. Get in close and fast although while hecan sense the disturbance, he'll be confused for a small moment. Use thst hesitation and go in for the kill, rip the medal out. Then dunk the medal in a vat of enzyme. Unfortunately I don't think chronus is really aware of the Guyver clone threat? Enzyme 1 killed it before it could finish forming, so the resulting biobooster monster would probably kill me flat! Lol!

Balcus told shin that the material that composed the medal wasn't like anything they could find on earth, and couldn't replicate it. I think he was talking about apollyons armor being made of the same metal the control medal was. I can totally see people dying from old age. It's a universal constant. Just like dying. It's natural. It happens. Who's to say that the guyvers regenative capabilities are even standard? That could be another unique ability to a human Guyver like all its weapons. (I doubt it considering the basic nature of the biobooster organism.) But the advent weren't immortal, dont even know of they are long lived, Just a scientist race or races that formed a coalition that explored genetic mutations as weapons.

I wonder if it's like a a computer (alky) receiving a shutdown order for hidden programing in that attack. His body shuts down, but his strength of will is what keeps him Awake and he exerts himself so much he passes out. Not so much a energy deal, but a psychological effect that has a physical trigger. With a unit, perhaps he can break that passive psychic command or hidden code?

Oh sully, I didn't realize you had posted. Sorry! (Didn't notice a new page started!) I can't contest there werent more than one unit room, far as I know they never said specifically if there was or not. But in the book where sho and agito explored the relic, they never came across more units, nor did sho become aware of more he connected with the ship. You'd think he'd notice. He had the time. Or when chronus explored the dead ship in arizona, they must of discovered the location of the unit room and used that info for the relic at relics point. They sent Zoanoids straight in a beeline for the unit room. Keep in mind that they were dying pretty fast and couldn't of had time to wander blindly. As for dark hero... they made the unit a straight killer that Sean struggled with. And his megasmasher never scratched that ship neither. The movie was enjoyable but there are too many inconsistencies that Americans thru in there just to make it look cool or for. Shock factor. Heh, after the first American movie, I bet takaya was just overjoyed it was as close as it was!

I don't think I agree with the Guyver prolonging life. No evidence of that either. We see sho grow older, tho that could just be the art style changing, but he still looks a little older than mizuki a year or so later. But I don't think having a unit slows your aging. The only way I would accept that, (a) is if the Guyver heals the aged cells once the armor or is active, but aging is natural, and not an injury, so would the unit see it as something to heal? Or (b) the control medal is yanked out and the body is regrown to the template when the host first bonded to the unit. I read a lot of fanfic where sho Guyver is immortal or forever young. I don't buy it. And I 100 percent agree with the unit being able to be grown, but two issues need to be addressed. The first is the metal for the medal. (Lol). Not able to grow that, so you would need supplies aboard ship, so the number of units is limited. And the second is harder. The bioboster organism is dangerous and aggressive, only controlled by the medal. So having raw bioboster on board would have to be contained or risk contaminating the ship. Then the crew. Growing more biobooster is relatively simple, it's a replicating organism, but keeping samples in check would be tricky. Whew! The was a long post! Gomen!

Mostly because it wasn't military equipment, it was their version of a hazmat suit. Not much chance of dying before you get to a dangerous environment. Only 3 Units a ship, so I doubt the all the Uranus on the ship were equipped.

Haha! Or die trying. Shos gotten crafty in his fights. So can a unit use a remover? It takes a large amount of bioenergy, a zoalord has enough, but they are friggen batteries. As for the relic saving the guyvers, if that were true then it would've saved their bodies, or even the body leftovers that the relic could of saved. Instead, they got turned to ash and then the relic bonded to shos medal.

Honestly tho, both g1 and g3 control medal survived 3 megasmasher cells when alky redirected their attack, and even tho the bodies where turned to ash, the control medal survived it, and regrew their bodies. Thats gotta be more powerful than a nuke. I'm with the other guy, I bet the Guyver system monitors the host and intervenes when your at deaths door. No proof, but just seems really cool. And plus, the American movies aren't exactly... reliable.

It could be that this attack was authorized by Balcus and shin. They were already suspecting the rogues.

Hey all, I'm not sure Agito knew about the regenerative properties of that extent. He only suspected in the 2005 series. Its feasible he was just watching the fight to discover the abilities if the enzyme 1, once again using Sho as cannon fodder to get what he wants. I don't believe that the entire fight was an elaborate ploy to smuggle Sho in the building. I honestly think he was making the best of the hand he was dealt.

I doubt anybody'll be upset with you bbdude. Bad busy months are within reason and should honestly be expected. Heck, i been running nonstop for a few months myself i can't even remember which volume i ordered last. Besides, you're not the type to simply blow off responsibilities, so if your taking longer than usual, its cause its for a good reason. No worries.

Slow it may be, but when it picks up, it really gets going. I'm only worried that the hiatus's will only grow in length till everyone gets fed up.

That reminds me too much like xmen for comfort.

Ironically, back in the 60s, Spiderman kept saying that he had the strength of ten men, the endurance of ten men, the speed of ten men,etc etc etc. its funny how much things changed since then.

While each universe may get a power change, i doubt it would be anywhere near Gregore to hulk. If anything, Gregore to Spiderman would be the highest. And that is still far fetched. As for vs the extraterritorial threats and characters? Simple, they CAN'T contend with them. They would only have the edge against what they know and study. As for magic, magic characters have been beaten by non magic characters, so its nit unthinkable that cronus can't handle them, just a little tricky.

I think that zoanoids would be much more powerful in marvel. They would have access to much more scientific break throughs, more generic samples on hand. And they would have access to hydra and aim and they can replicate most abilities. Through that in with cronus know how and competency.... Tough zoanoids. Probably even cause an experienced Guyver lots of problems.

Maybe I'm just backwards. but i would hold those with more unique powers with more reverence than i would someone who could be duplicated. It makes them special like precious metals are.

I wonder why the lost numbers were so looked down on then. Their abilities make them scary.