POLL; WHO IS APOLLYON?

[Guest Jupiter]

lol, we'll find it out eventually. I'm sure people were anxious to find out who Guyver 3 was early on in the manga. I just think Yoshiki is trying to rally his fans.

[Lord Uziel]

Murakami

[neozxtole]

 There is no doubt in my mind that it is Murakami.

[*Chernaudi]

To me, it's either Murakami or someone new to the Guyver universe.  If it's Murakami and he's not gone after Sho yet, either he's acting on his own accord (IE, Alky's not controlling him for whatever reason), or Alky is commanding him and he, as result, has an ulterior motive.  But it could be a surprise, too, as to who Apolyon is

[Guest Sage Vale]

Murakami

[TheAptomStrain]

If it's Murukami/Imakurum, then he has a weird way of looking at things. It's been stated a bunch of times that they need all twelve Zoalords. It would make sense if he went after the Rogues, but he hasn't. He just collected Khan's crystal and not the others. Purgstall, Li Yentsui, and Waferdanos were all loyal to Alky, so it makes sense to retrieve their Zoacrystals (as if to find new hosts), but why take out Caerleon? He was extremely loyal. If he was Imakurum or working for Alky, why couldn't he just explain to Caerleon that he needed them for some reason? I find it extremely hard to believe that Imakurum would go after Caerleon before going after Kurumegnik and Jabir.

[Guest Sage Vale]

So its not Murakami? Shoot! I voted for the wrong guy than.

[Lord Uziel]

If Apollion is an unknown entity how comes that he has full access to the shinla island built for Alky by the inhabitants (and not by the Creators)? As far as I know only 3 persons knows about it: Alky Balcus and Murakami. and if he is after the zoalords... why not take alky zoacrystal? he is sleeping now...

what if apollion is Balcus trying to recover all the zoacrystal to give them back to Alky??????

 

Good point about Caerleon. I have no explanation. maybe he was in the wrong place at the wrong time and Apollion couldn't risk to reveal himself yet.

Edited June 8, 2014 by Lord Uziel

[oogeej]

Unless he starts helping Guyver 1's group in a more obvious way (I guess sending the Segawas to Silha could be considered helpful) I'm going to guess that he's going to end up the ultimate antagonist of the series.

[Matt Bellamy]

If it's Murukami/Imakurum, then he has a weird way of looking at things. It's been stated a bunch of times that they need all twelve Zoalords. It would make sense if he went after the Rogues, but he hasn't. He just collected Khan's crystal and not the others. Purgstall, Li Yentsui, and Waferdanos were all loyal to Alky, so it makes sense to retrieve their Zoacrystals (as if to find new hosts), but why take out Caerleon? He was extremely loyal. If he was Imakurum or working for Alky, why couldn't he just explain to Caerleon that he needed them for some reason? I find it extremely hard to believe that Imakurum would go after Caerleon before going after Kurumegnik and Jabir.

 

I am guessing the reason Apollon attacked the Ark is that some Chronos employees probably knew about where the Crystals were, and he simply used that information that he probably stole telepathically. Caerleon was probably just there at the wrong time.

 

The two rogue Zoalords have probably hidden themselves very well, and very few, if any, know of their whereabouts. Might be why Apollon is going after Guyot, since they helped Guyot out. Probably going after him for information on their location so he can get their crystals.

 

As for why he wants the crystals? Well, if it is Murakami, he could be collecting them to create new, more loyal Zoalords? As it's been proven already that a few have had their own agendas, and might not go along with Archanphel's plans, no matter how loyal they seem. And while Archanphel can intimidate them, his injuries are catching up to him, and he may not be able to command that kind of power next time.

[alkanfel009]

I think that would be more feasible murakami 

 

its current absence in shela island, the fact of having knowledge of segawa, avilidades barias have what it approaches the range alkanphel think it would be for his armor, 

 

if this is correct supicicion is reinforcing armor, which would make a murakami be well on top of the Guyvers, which could explain their increased power as radical, 

 

HOWEVER, it would seem to me much more shocking nibel frame, which turned out to be an emissary of the advents, and the absence of murakami's because he was attacked,

 

[*guyverfan]

ok people, c'mon, last chances to put your votes in as this vol. is coming to an end and i have a feeling that apollon's identity quite very well be revealed next vol.(if we're lucky)

here's alittle twist that hit me awhile ago,

with talk about time travel on the forum boards lately,

i imagined that apollon could be tetsuro from the future and alternate timeline! how else did apollon know about the mansion? and just happened to save tetsuro and mizuki at the point one of them would of been killed.

 

well, its something to think about but my vote is still on you know who  .

 

and any doubts or characters other than the obvious not listed, you have the broad option of voting other.......hehehehe.

[RazorLaser]

here's alittle twist that hit me awhile ago,

with talk about time travel on the forum boards lately,

i imagined that apollon could be tetsuro from the future and alternate timeline! how else did apollon know about the mansion? and just happened to save tetsuro and mizuki at the point one of them would of been killed.

 

This is brilliant! Alky dies in his timeline and he's the only one that can stop the biggest threat yet, so Tetsuro/Apollon travels back in time to help Alky by collecting zoacrystals for him. Something like that would be awesome for Guyver! Great twist idea, man!

[Larz Zahn]

That reminds me too much like xmen for comfort.

[Mirabilis]

What if Apollon was actually the very first Creator that spoke to Archanfel, when he awoke for the first time, and felt guilty and/or bad about what his fellow companions tried to due to Archanfel? haha kind of like going back to check on him and make things right sense he was considered the true parent of Archanfel 

[Salkafar]

- Apollon is Imakarum Mirabilis. His Murakami personality asserted itself when he put on the armor. But he strives to keep his identity a secret. Inversely, the Imakarum personality, currently suppressed, prevents him from killing Archanfel when he is helpless.

 

- Apollon is not a person but a machine, sent by the Creators after they found out Earth still exists (how come they never figured it out before? You'd think they would check). His helmet is, in fact, his head.

 

- Apollon is not a person but a machine, sent by the enemies of the Creators who have defeated them. They are fascinated by the fact humanity resists control.

 

- Apollon is Mirabilis who is now working for the Creators. Or their enemies.

 

- Apollon is not a person but empty armor, subconsciously mentally controlled by Archanfel who wants to reclaim his lost crystals.

[TricoBren]

Aaagh! My OCD is kicking in and I control it anymore.... It's ApollYon!! Let's get his name right please!!

 

I reckon Apollyon is Sho's older brother that he didn't know about.... or something equally as wacky!! Haha!

[fossilrumbler96]

I always thought he was an advent, Apollon, Apollyon or Aporuon whatever you want to call him, just seems more out worldish to me.

[daedalia]

Aptom makes reference to "that technique" which is previously used by Archanphel on his first encounter with him and then by Imakarum at a later time. It is then used again by Apollyon on Aptom and he recognises the attack. I don't think it is as simple as being one clear person, bit obvious, especially as we see Archanphel with Segawa's recently.

Edited November 6, 2015 by daedalia

[btahjusshi]

What if Apollon was actually the very first Creator that spoke to Archanfel, when he awoke for the first time, and felt guilty and/or bad about what his fellow companions tried to due to Archanfel? haha kind of like going back to check on him and make things right sense he was considered the true parent of Archanfel 

 

a little far fetched, their purpose of using earth is to create bio-weapons for their war efforts. They had no qualms about squashing a failed experiment, ie the dinosaurs and they have plenty of time to let their experiments reach critical mass.

 

they had assumed that the experiment with homosaepians was successful but discovered that free will is dangerous thus decided to cut their losses and squash the experiment again.

 

if they did come back to earth or to this galaxy again and discover that their abandoned experiment has endured they might take a interest in finding out how things has progressed without their supervision and intervention. But helping Archanfel cos one of them felt bad isn't going to be high on their list of things to do.

 

If the ark's launch gave off an energy signature that alerted them to this galaxy, the first response would to be observe and then launch the meteorite attacks again. Nothing in Chronos' arsenal besides the Ark can defend against a wave of meteorites. Two "ultraman" or not. That apocalypse is not cancelable.

[Mirabilis]

No need to take it so seriously man. Of course it's far fetched, I wasn't being serious about it. I always believed that it was Murakami; but having fun with wild guesses and using your imagination doesn't hurt anything. 

[btahjusshi]

The =3 face at the end did not quite give me the hint

 

if sensei did write like that, I would raise my eyebrows and decide that he wanted to finish the title quickly and wrote in deux machina stuff

[*Kenji Murakami]

The =3 face at the end did not quite give me the hint

 

if sensei did write like that, I would raise my eyebrows and decide that he wanted to finish the title quickly and wrote in deux machina stuff

 

Seriously, the grinning cat face wasn't enough of a clue?

[Cay]

What if Apollyon is not just Murakami? It could be a union of Murakami and another being just like Sho and Aptom. 

If an agent of the creators was sent to Earth, it would probably have been in response to the activation of the Uranus ship. If the launching the ship sent a signal to the creators, they would come to the conclusion that the Earth survived, and that there was another "guyver". This agent could be another creation of the creators who was to be sent to Earth to record its sightings. Using a cloaking/ stealth technology, they stayed hidden while watching the past events unfold.

However, once Sho created the gigantic and used it in battle, the agent would have immediately alerted the Uranus about the growing power of a human "guyver". As a guyver is considered a dangerous being (enough to make the creators want to destroy the Earth), the agent would not have been allowed to take any direct action against the guyvers. Instead, it could be ordered locate Archanphel and use him to dispose of the gigantic or worse, incapacitate and capture him for the Uranus to reprocess the "free will" of the human guyver.

Once locating Archanphel, the agent discovers that the first Zoalord is in a grim condition, with his health on decline. There, Murakami would notice a disturbance and attack it in order to protect his lord. However, the agent communicates with Murakami and tells him whose orders he is following. Murakami who saw Archanphel's memories, understands his relation to the Uranus, even though they left him to die. Through an agreement for mutual gain, (Murakami to protect Archanphel's body and authority, and the Uranus' will to dispose of the guyver) they bond to become one being called Apollyon.