Teleportation Blocks

[Sully]

To bring some points together about Eliminator:

1: It's got a mission which is to kill Fiona O'Conner, this above all is it's number 1 on it's list. While it will only obey Alkanphel it is based on an advanced version of the WG Friend and Foe system so will recognise Imakarum has something of importance to his master.

2. Alone against Zeugma for example it would be in trouble IF she got it cornered and had done a very powerful focused atack on ALL 3 Control medals. Zeugma's powers where NOT what it was designed to fight.

3. It was designed to fight a Prototype WG Type 5 unit and basically has shown in the story none of her attacks (or any person unluckly enough to have the same WG type unit that is human) will be unable to cause it damage. It is also the same for a Standard Unit-G has WG's have all their basic attacks too.

4. Fight from 7 days shows it's capable of been hurt by Fiona IF she is in the Dreadnought armour herself.

5. It feeds from a HSL, the more power it gets the more it's abilities are enchanced so that if something like Dreadnought faced it Eliminator would be able to match him.

6. The Elminator is basically my idea of an Enzyme 1 type character for the WG has such it gives a needed fear for characrters in the story.

Edited August 16, 2007 by Guest

[OnyxPhoenix]

Sully wrote:

there is nothing to see here move along

Um, you do mean Fiona O'Connor, right, big boss?

Just keepin up w/ ya.

Sully edit Power abuse

[Spartan Warlord]

lol yeh i think he abused his admin powers!

Edited again by Sully OMG!

[W'Kar]

Sully edit Power abuse

CHEATER!

Edited again! OFC!

[Spartan Warlord]

lool tut tut sack him!!

[McAvoy]

5. It feeds from a HSL, the more power it gets the more it's abilities are enchanced so that if something like Dreadnought faced it Eliminator would be able to match him.

At least raw strength. He was even shown to even drain Dreadnought on contact to the point where Dreadnought could not overpower him. But the point that physical contact was removed, Dreadnought's strength returned.

I wonder if the Eliminator would be able to handle the likes of an Enforcer Kavzar. The Enforcer Kavzar is stronger and overall more powerful, but it uses a more primitive HSL and a WG Type 1 Gravity Shield.

[Juggernought]

I think Eliminator would be able to do it. Sure he's not as powerful but with that Warrior tech in him i believe it would be more than capable of adapting to the power gap and find some way of compensating.

[McAvoy]

W'Kar never teleported within the Eliminator's blocking radius.

I could say W'Kar is free of teleport blocks because of his W'Kar element...

[Juggernought]

Probably only because beings like Eliminator and Dreadnought have yet to figure out a way to block it effectively.

[Spartan Warlord]

Considering jasons matrix has problems with the multi-dimensional properties of the W'Kar element i doubt that they'll ever be abl to block it...

and eliminator wasnt created to deal with W'Kar so i doubt he'll be able to adapt to him

[McAvoy]

The Eliminator's teleportation blocking ability isn't something that he can alter, it's just one of the systems. Dreadnought can because that's an ability of the Matrix as well as the Matrix is a adapting A.I.

One Matrix probably can't. But if you were to gather all the Matrixes together, no matter how powerful W'Kar is or will become, he's nothing compared to the billions or trillions of Matrixes working together.

[exscaped_pyscho]

What about the W'kar Elements multi demensional properties? If one Matrix can't handle it, would more really make a difference? After all we're not talking power here we're talking about the laws of science. According to the story thread Quantum Fields (the soarce of the Matrix's powers) cannot effect a Multi Demensional substance like the W'kar element.

[McAvoy]

It's like combining different fields over another simulate the effect, if that's possible.

No, it's just using the brute power of numbers over the element.

[exscaped_pyscho]

So the ultimate qeustion now would be 'which is more powerful?' I'm not sure who'd win in that contest. Sure all of the Matrix's would be a truly awsome power to behold, but the W'kar element is pure power in a super compact size.

[McAvoy]

Remember thousands of Matrxies actually created an extremely powerful barrier than even Anubis cannot get through. So if all of the Matrixes in the WG2 universe were combined together it would be an all powerful force.

[xtro guyver]

So how come W'kar was able to easily teleport within the Eliminator's blocking radius? and is it suffice to say that Eliminator can block all methods of teleportations?

Even dreanought has found it hard to block Wkars method of teleportation, so its no surprise eliminator is having trouble with it too

[Juggernought]

Yea and W'kar himself said that his teleportation is like when a host calls upon a guyver unit. And as far as we know Dreadnought is not able to stop a unit from activating.

[*zeo]

What about the W'kar Elements multi demensional properties? If one Matrix can't handle it, would more really make a difference? After all we're not talking power here we're talking about the laws of science. According to the story thread Quantum Fields (the soarce of the Matrix's powers) cannot effect a Multi Demensional substance like the W'kar element.

The quantum field is actually just one aspect of how the Matrix's powers work, which has multi-dimensional properties itself and has already shown it can manipulate dimensions for a variety of effects, but the basic gist of it is that the Matrix can't create a field strong enough to penetrate the W'Kar Element energy field, which since it is multi-dimensional means it is extremely concentrated and powerful.

Remember we pretty much stated from the beginning that the Matrix's one drawback is it's lack of raw power.

While the W'Kar Element is virtually power encarnate.

A good example to show how much energy multi-dimensional matter can contain is the movie "Supernova" in which something like an ounce of higher dimensional matter collapses and releases the energy of a Supernova, destroying everything for light years in all directions.

Though W'Kar's Element doesn't quite have that level of energy concentration yet, it is building up to that and it does show what the Matrix is dealing with and why it doesn't work well near it.

[McAvoy]

Remember we pretty much stated from the beginning that the Matrix's one drawback is it's lack of raw power.

While the W'Kar Element is virtually power encarnate.

Wgich is why when you combine many Matrixes together they'll be able to at least figure out a away around the W'Kar element.

[Frost]

If the W'kar element is power incarnate perhaps the Matrix can tap into that power.. use it as a power source and turn that source on W'kar.. can that be done? and how many more stages does W'kar has left before he fully evolves?

[W'Kar]

W'Kar doesn't really have a set number of evolutions. It depends on available energy, host activity, host will, and amount of current damage. Pre-W'Kar jumped into the Warrior Stage pretty quickly because Greg wanted more power, was fighting constantly, and using massive stores of energy all the time so the W'Kar had what it needed to evolve faster.

If, say, Ira got the W'Kar unit and decided not to fight it could have been years before the unit evolved, at it may have evolved to 8X, not 12X.

[Frost]

Well does he require any specific type of energy or will any form/ type do it? and since at the moment W'kar is fighting the Grakkens but he is not so ticked off as i guess it is not his world so he is not so tense/ anxious and he is simply returning a "favour"

[W'Kar]

Any form will help, the energy draining system can absorb any kind really. But some energy is better than others. Multidimensional energy, which lets face it the number of creatures able to use such dangerous and powerful energies can be counted on one hand, limiting his exposure to it. Hyperspace energy is good, abundent and easy for the W'Kar Unit to handle. Gravity is ok, but it tends not to be very useful for the Element itself. Plasma is decent, but again, plasma is only really common on weak scales except in combat. It's varied.

[Frost]

So since he has absorbed so much energy to date how come he isnt sprouting something? besides placing a spike in GPZ's butt.

[W'Kar]

Need and desire.

Though during the Grakken incident he really needs the extra power, the host (greg) isn't all that inclined to want more power right now.

All of his previous evolutions stemmed from use of the Warrior Rage.