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[Shenzon]

The fact that he can create a White Hole powerful in the megaton range. Dreadnought's standard shields are only so powerful and using the Gravity Shield or Quantum Matrix Shield both take time.

In fact most of the higher zoalords have powerufl enough weapons to seriously damage Dreadnought, despite being a tenth or so of his power.

Ahh, I see. True. Sorry I didn't think about it that way. Destrol's ultimate attack is similar to Kron's, right?

[McAvoy]

Similar yes. Since they are of the same line as Alkanphel. Destrol being a failed clone and Kron being well, for a lack of a better term, a Secondary Master Zoalord. They both have similar elements from Alkanphel's Ultimate Attack but at a far, far, far, smaller fraction. Remember Alkanphels' true power is easily in the 100 Teraton range. Or over a million times more powerful than Kron's ultimate attack.

[Shenzon]

Yeah, that's very true. I wonder if they will apply the bio-armor to any other zoalords, like they did Kron...

[McAvoy]

If I were in their shoes, yes I would. I would make every Elite Zoalord into a Bio Lord like Kron. But the question is how powerful will they be? From what I understand, Kron was already 4x, Imakarum for example was 2x and had to be upgraded using new processing techniques or some unknown technology to get to his present 4x level. If he were to be equipped with Kron's bio armor, would he match Kron? Maybe, probably slightly less.

[Juggernought]

I too agree that they should forgo most of their "traditions" and hierarchial power enhancements . The bio-lord upgrade is usually reserved for master zoalords but...with this attack they may want to reconsider power options....minus the guyver zoalord approach of course.

[McAvoy]

Well, as far as Destrol is concerned, he should have some sort of special treatment being after all, Alkanphel's clone. Destrol is also in charge of one of the most powerful Anti-Chronos countries, he should have a decent power boost.

[Zoaknight]

well Destrol is pretty badass, and completely pure evil, but he DOES take loosing badly (which makes sense considering that although he appears to be in his twenties, he's actually only two years old, meaning he's probably prone to immaturity and violent outbursts at times when things don't do his way). He appears to be determined to make his father Alkanphel proud of him, and as the son of Alkanphel, he's got ALOT of pride and arrogance (so it frustrates him when he can't live up to daddy's expectations). He's no match for Matrix Warrior Guyver or Dreadnought, thats for sure, nor Prometheus or Ultimus. If Destrol wants to survive to get his revenge and make his father, Alkanphel, proud, he better find a way of toughening up his zoaform soon or find a stronger servant to do his bidding.

[McAvoy]

Alkanphel won't replace Destrol just because there are two beings along that can defeat him. Remember that there are other countries for instance Zeus's Thunderbolt has Zeus who is easily far more powerful than your average Elite Zoalord.

The only way I see that Destrol would gain power is either perfecting his body because presumably if he is a clone of Alkanphel then he might have some dormant powers unaccessible by Chronos. Or he could gain a Bio Lord upgrade like Kron to gain a power boost on a similar level.

As far as the clone issue is concerned however, it all depends on how Chronos cloned him. This isn't Star Trek where you can practically clone a being with all of their abilities and memories.

[OnyxPhoenix]

Hey Matt, just wondering if you forgot about this part of your fan-fic. It's got a great feel to it, hope to see it in its completed form soon. Also, if Destrol really thinks that he's going to beat WGC, especially now that he can go Ultimus on him, and taking into account that WGC has fought the Hunter creature w/ Prometheus, and the Eliminator, and is still around to talk about it, Destrol really better watch what he says and does. Besides, he's also pissed off Guyver 0, who can now go Gigantic, too. One wrong move, and Alkanphel's little boy is going to be roasted like rotisserie chicken. Who's hungry?

[McAvoy]

Destrol was defeated by a Zoalord who seems to easily rival the old Supreme Zoalord power level and a Gigantic Guyver. But you are correct that Destrol has to watch what he does now since he isn't as powerful as Ultimus or Prometheus.

However that advantage can be easily taken down if Destrol leads a team of a dozen or more Bio Titans.

[OnyxPhoenix]

McAvoy wrote:

However that advantage can be easily taken down if Destrol leads a team of a dozen or more Bio Titans.

So, does that mean that Destrol can increase his power in the same fashion as Drano, the Zoalord who can supercharge his attacks w/ additional Bio-Titans? Didn't see that anywhere in his DF. Probably need to re-read it. Anywho, both Sara and Guyver O did have to be a little careful w/ the people around them in the shelter (if there were any left inside w/ them & Destrol.) Put them in the Sahara w/ no civilians around, and it might just be open season on Zoalords. Plus, Guyver 0 was defending people & Sara from harm. Put him in the Gigantic in that p.o.'ed mode, and man, that's gonna leave a mark. Oh, whose Gigantic did Guyver 0 use? Or, does he have one of his own that he made? Hmmmmm.....

[McAvoy]

No what I meant was with a doezen 2x beings that can fire mega smasher level blasts at something can keep Prometheus or Ultimus very busy while trying to kill Destrol.

My guess the Gigantic that Guyver 0 used is Sho's since Sho is far more willing to share than Shizu I think.

[largo]

Yah, know what I get the feeling that there are actually three Gigantics out there? Not sure how but there is? Right?

[*zeo]

Nope, only two!

Not counting Dreadnought of course.

[OnyxPhoenix]

largo wrote:

Yah, know what I get the feeling that there are actually three Gigantics out there? Not sure how but there is? Right?

and, zeo1234 wrote:

Nope, only two! Not counting Dreadnought of course.

Ok, let's check that out real quick:

1) Sho (Gigantic Guyver One)

2) Shizu Onamu (Female Gigantic Guyver 3)

- either one of the two is using the Gigantic pod from WG2's universe -

3) Gigantic Guyver 0 (borrowed it from one of the above, Sho probably)

4) Dreadnought (usually doesn't pass it around, save for FWG/Valkyrie)

5) Ultimus (WGC using the Giant Unit, a powered up Aceaer battle unit)

Sound about right?

[Juggernought]

Yep...Technically Zeus isn't a gigantic unit, but it is based and operates on the same principles so i guess you could add him as well.

[McAvoy]

Ok, let's check that out real quick:

1) Sho (Gigantic Guyver One)

2) Shizu Onamu (Female Gigantic Guyver 3)

- either one of the two is using the Gigantic pod from WG2's universe -

3) Gigantic Guyver 0 (borrowed it from one of the above, Sho probably)

4) Dreadnought (usually doesn't pass it around, save for FWG/Valkyrie)

5) Ultimus (WGC using the Giant Unit, a powered up Aceaer battle unit)

Sound about right?

Yeah. Though I would count Zeus because he is more Gigantic than Ultimus. The Giant unit is more like a huge, beefed up Aceaer unit than anything else.

Presumable the 2 Gigantics can be handed (willed) to any standard Guyver, even Chronos controlled ones. So this list of users can be a fairly long list.

Same goes for Dreadnought since that unit is a true Warrior Gigantic and can be willed to any Warrior Guyver. That's if Jason wants that.

[Juggernought]

Doubtful, although other than FWG i think the only other warrior guyvers that would be able to utilize the Dreadnought armor with his willing to do so is Faye or WGC if he wasn't Ultimus. He did after all trust Max to guard his wife and the other women while he was gone.

[Matt Bellamy]

Doubtful, although other than FWG i think the only other warrior guyvers that would be able to utilize the Dreadnought armor with his willing to do so is Faye or WGC if he wasn't Ultimus. He did after all trust Max to guard his wife and the other women while he was gone.

Depending on the circumstances, I am sure Jason would share the Dreadnought armor with another WG... I am sure, if Max didn't have the Giant unit already boosting his power at the time, we probably would have had Max getting the Dreadnought armor for the fight instead, given his more general familiarity with the units/Jason probably not wanting his wife to be in harms way ect... ( that and we could have had Fiona get it at any time later in the fic as well... but it would have ment drawing a new pic for WGC)... but then if Max didn;t have the Giant... who knows if he would have even been asked to help out?

But considering she was the only applicable unit bearer at the time to accept the armor, she bonded with it, and ass was whupped at the time.

[*zeo]

Yes, WGC could have used the Warrior Gigantic. Even though his is an upgraded standard Unit it is still a fully functional Warrior Unit now and is thus compatable with the Warrior Gigantic Unit.

Guardian (Faye) though may not be compatable since her Unit is a Praetorian Unit, though also a Warrior based unit it has been modified with MKII technology, which has mutated the unit, and thus may not be configured properly to merge with the Warrior Gigantic as is.

Though it would be possible for Jason to modify the Warrior Gigantic to work with a wider range of Unit's it would take time and is doubtful he would do it unless necessary since it would be rare for a situation to turn up in which he himself wouldn't just go in to save the day.

So as of right now the Units compatable with the Warrior Gigantic are...

Matrix WG, WG2, F-WG, WG3, WGC, and not that it will ever happen WG5 and WG Vamore.

[Kamui de' Tempest]

Not to go off topic but, what is the difference in a Warrior Unit and a Praetorian Unit?

[W'Kar]

Mark II Technology

[McAvoy]

Warrior Guyver unit is 4x, and the Praetorian unit is 6x.

Guardian (Faye) though may not be compatable since her Unit is a Praetorian Unit, though also a Warrior based unit it has been modified with MKII technology, which has mutated the unit, and thus may not be configured properly to merge with the Warrior Gigantic as is.

...which is the same argument whether or not a standard Gigantic can bond with the prototype Warrior Guyver units. Different interface though similar control medal design and so forth.

Well, couldn't Ultimus with the Aceaer bond with the Warrior Gigantic? If he did, we would be in the 18x range right? I would assume that the only reason why he cannot is that control medal ring which may inhibit the control medal interface.

[largo]

I know it's annoying but I feel obligated to ask so Matt hows the progress on the next fic.

[OnyxPhoenix]

I know I'll probably get the same answer that largo will (can anyone say, "NO COMMENT!") for asking Matt if this fic is still being processed, but hey, I'm a fan. A little bit of pressure, properly applied with a lot of begging and huge offerings of Oreos, sometimes helps the writer along, unless of course, life in general is doing its dirty deed to keep him from what he loves to do. Anywho, if Matt's working on the fic, that's good enough for me. Love WGC and his Ultimus form, a young kid with the attitude and power to make a difference for himself and the people he cares about (anybody hurts his girlfriend, and watch out for the whuppin that's a-comin'! )