Preview - Day 6 of 7 Days

[guyverfanatic]

I think Zeo mentioned once that Jason doesn't need CPM's in his armor since the Matrix is bonded to his control medal, which makes it far superior.

[*zeo]

Yes...

There is also no advantage to converting the WG type 1 unit into a type 2, they both use the same technology and with the power level of Dreadnought the CPM would make little to no difference. The Power Wave already serves the same purpose anyway and the Gravity Shield actually have more destructive potential than the CPM's ever could.

Juggernaut is enhanced not because of his base unit but because of the mentality of the host which unlike Jason isn't opposed to becoming more than human. Allowing the Matrix to make changes that Jason wouldn't allow.

[Frost]

Well how about Mark 2 upgrade? would that inscrese his power and is it possible? There should be a Mark 2 upgradeing device as Kullnar used it to upgrade two units..

[WarriorZoalord]

Well how about Mark 2 upgrade? would that inscrese his power and is it possible? There should be a Mark 2 upgradeing device as Kullnar used it to upgrade two units..

guardians a Mk II enhanced guyver.... only thing it would give him really is the bio-energy doubler, plus maybe a few minor enhancements, and Whos to say how it would affect Dready, whos to say he CAN be enhanced anymore.

[Juggernought]

I believe Ira (white assassin guyver) had already stated that Dreadnoughts current enhancement was similar already to a mark II upgrade.

[McAvoy]

The old datafile on Juggernaught I posted is obsolete, I wouldn't go by that. That one I created years ago before I knew how the CPM's worked, how the Warrior Guyvers worked and so forth. The new one which is about 95% complete reflects that. For instance if Stephen Cain was similar to Jason O'Conner Juggernaught would be practically identical to Dreadnought with the exception of the CPMs which could be converted by the Matrix to the Gravity Shield which is potentially much more powerful than the CPMs.

Besides, how the CPMs work is inferior to the Power Wave and Power Boost abilities.

The Mk. II enhancement is actually a inferior version of the Matrix enhancement. It might bring a few new technologies to Dreadnought such as the Gravity Crusher and possibly the Bio Energy Doubler. But his Power Boost ability already reflects this. I believe he might be able to max. out at 50x as opposed to 40x, but that's about it.

[Frost]

Wouldnt it been have been faster for Dreadnought to charge up Guyverpowered Zerebu'z instead of the nutrient bath? and can he will his other Matrix to give Zeugma a better healing factor and energy reserves so she could help out?

[WarriorZoalord]

Wouldnt it been have been faster for Dreadnought to charge up Guyverpowered Zerebu'z instead of the nutrient bath? and can he will his other Matrix to give Zeugma a better healing factor and energy reserves so she could help out?

Dready could have done that, and probably would have, if he had the time enough to take a break for who knows how long to do it. Because from what i was reading, he was thinking about it while he was fighting.

[*zeo]

Besides the battle has barely begun, everyone may have managed to take out a couple hundred Grakken ships by now but there are still hundreds of thousands left and probably a couple million total Grakkens to fight.

And they are already close to being able to take the Clan ship, so Dreadnought can't let up for an instant.

[McAvoy]

Besides, even if Dreadnought could for a split second instantly restore Guyver Powered Zerebubuse, even with that additional help, the Grakkens are still out numbering them by a vast margin. Hell, even if you were to upgrade every single Warrior Guyver in the ACTF to Dreadnought levels, it would still be an up hill battle.

[Spartan Warlord]

Couldnt jason use his quantum speed to fight while re-energizing GPZ??...

[Juggernought]

I don't think it would have the desired effect. All quantum speed does is get you to a certain point in what may seem like little to no time at all. A being as powerful as GPZ would require time to fully recharge in order to have any effect on the battle field once more.

[Shenzon]

Plus from what I remember about Dreadnoughts Quantum speed, he can't interact with anything while using it if I remember right? I think it referred to him as a .....ghost while using it. Just passing through stuff.

[Spartan Warlord]

Plus from what I remember about Dreadnoughts Quantum speed, he can't interact with anything while using it if I remember right? I think it referred to him as a .....ghost while using it. Just passing through stuff.

In 7DOH part 5 when he first used his quantum speed he was able to shield WGV HyperSmash while the other used a power wave enhanced power punch on Eliminator...both would have taken a fair amount of energy so i dont see how he would be able to re-energize GPZ and stil fight at the same time

[W'Kar]

You guys are probably thinking of Solufein. He is able to do something like Quantum speed but he can take a limited amount of matter around him into that time frame which he can interact with normally, but usually all things around him are intangible and cannot be affected by him.

[McAvoy]

Actually Dreadnought can do this as well. Though while in this state he cannot do this, not even Solufein can do this.

-Quantum Speed: Ability the subject has developed that allows him to instantly move from one location to another at will and without traveling through an intermediate medium such as hyper space. Since no measurable amount of time passes when this ability is used, subject can appear to be in two or more places at once.

-Quantum Time: A state the subject can go into when using his Quantum Speed ability, allowing him to exist within a single instant of time. Though unable to effect anything in this state, as he passes through normal matter like a ghost and is unable to affect anything with his powers, he can use this ability to analyze a situation and combine this ability with his quantum computing power to allow him to be absolutely certain of his choice of action upon re-entering normal time. He can also use this ability to simply meditate and think of things without worry of the passage of time.

Bold is mine, basically Dreadnought would still have to be in normal time to restore GPZ's energy reserves. So teleporting would be just as quick in this case. Again, Dreadnought or anyone had the time to do this. In the end, putting GPZ in the Bio Tube was a good idea.

[exscaped_pyscho]

Jason could have used the Quantum Reflection ability to rejuvinate GPZ while still holding off the Grakkens at the same time. He could have also produced two GPZs after rejuvinating the original, seeing how GPZ has a butt load of fire power. Although it's much more effective just to use his Quantum Fusion ability with Zeugma and kick the crap out of all of the Grakkens at once. Black Nova II or Dark Nova would also be a good choice for the Fussion ability as they're both Gravity based guyvers. Dreadnought + Lots of Gravitational Energy = Alot of Dead Grakkens. Plus you can't get more genetically capadable then brother and sister, which means he'll have even more power while merged with Jenny. Ithink this will be how the Grakkens are eventually defeated. It's easy to see why Jason hasn't done so already....he doesn't know he can!

Anyone want to wager on how soon it'll take W'kar to Evolve with all these Grakkens around? My wager is about three paragraphs into the next story line, sooner if the other worm holes aren't alleys. Look out Grakkens here comes Omni Wkar!

[McAvoy]

In the end though, he is still only one person. Even for a Guyver Zoalord, he would have a problem, since the Grakkens are not there to fight Dreadnought but to get to the Clanship. Different tactics.

The Quantum Reflection ability isn't like creating a perfect clone of yourself and expect to do everything that you can at full power. That ability is regulated by the Matrix, and the Matrix would be needed to full rejuvinate GPZ since that is not a Warrior Guyver ability.

The Fusion ability also has it's drawbackas since it only lasts 15 minutes.

[Frost]

So basically how long will it take Dreadnought to fully charge up GPZ?

[*zeo]

Hmm, a 40x Guyver Hyper Zoanoid... Oh, I'd say a couple of minutes at least.

While the Grakken only need like one minute to get what they want from the crashed clan ship.

[Frost]

i miss Zeus.. so like cant Dreadnought deploy his Quantum Matrix Shield/Field around the Clanship & charge GPZ? yes it would make him a sitting duck but i am sure nothing could get through..or he could go for the Quantum Inverse Teleportation and place a huge asteroid in it's place and cloak the clanship in the designated location is that possible?

[McAvoy]

He could but he can't stand there for eternity. Even if the Grakkens cannot break through, remember that the Grakkens might do something like attack somewhere else to get Dreadnought to lower his shields.

Let's say that the Grakkens came to Earth with a million Grakkens right, not inlcuding the ships with weapons. Dreadnought's shield can 'only' withstand 10 Gigatons. Grakkens's mega smashers are 2 kilotons and 2.5 kilotons for the Destroyer Grakkens. That means if all the Grakkens fired their mega smashers all at once, the combined power would between 2 to 2.5 Gigatons. That's assuming that there are a million Grakkens, and none of the ships attack. For all we know there could be even more Grakkens, and they might call upon the heavy artillery.

So, needless to say, but Dreadnought has to be mobile because despite all of his power, Dreadnought is one person and can only do so much.

Zeus might help out alittle, but he can only take on a few Grakkens at a time. He doesn't have the firepower to kill Grakkens at a fast enough rate to make a difference.

[Takara]

Actually, Dready deploying the shield for such a purpose would be an excellent idea. Yes, the Grakken's have the fire-power to overwhelm his shield, but would they do so, with the risk being destroying the Clan Ship as well?

[McAvoy]

Agreed. However the big question is if the Grakken are unwilling to take down his shield, what will they do persuade to do otherwise? Such as attack a city or one of the ACTF bases? With that many numbers they would easily overwhelm any sort of defense to defend it against them. So it's better if the Grakkens are focused on a single target theat they believe is within reach. Right now there are several thousand Bio Titans and other hyper zoanoids defending it along with Enforcer Prime, Warrior Guyver Vamore and soon Guyver Powerred Zerebubuse. Dreadnought is nearby as well, Angel is on her way and W'Kar is doing his best in space.

I think the new fleet coming through is the Creators, otherwise Earth is screwed.

[*zeo]

Uh, guys... You're missing something...

Those shields can only withstand that much when they are protecting just Dreadnought but the crashed clan ship is huge and he would have to spread the shield for over a mile radius to be sure nothing important got into the Grakken's possession.

So the shield would be far less effective spread over such a large distance.