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You guys are on the ball. Has James has said war tends to natually dehumanise zoa-forms. Elera and Zeugma are both in a situation where they where becoming a target for Redmond research. Dreadnought can't handle loss well. He's had more than enough of it which is why he fought hard has hell to get Fiona back in Strange World and against Jenny and basically forced her to be a Guyver again. He didn't even think would Jenny like or not, the thought didn't enter his mind. He just thought safety first and she ended up being the Black Nova 2. Zeugma went out of her way to save Jenny and at great cost. If she would have survived much longer can be debated but she was in an very bad way by the time of Dreadnought's return. Jason owes her big in his mind. While he never knew her well due he knew enough that Jenny did. Jenny being one of 2 people that Zeugma could connect too. Jason would see both Elera and Zeugma in a completely different light to everyone else because of his sister. While Redmond most likely got away with getting permission for experementing on Elera's blood in the aim of making a "Controller". No one had the time or chance to talk with Dreadnought first. so his first meeting with ACTF for awhile was finding Elera in that situation. He'd just finished some major fighting and was mentally nakkard to find her in that state and Redmonds answer tipped what little was left in the Jason sanity scale tipping him over. Who's behind this.... well that would be telling

Yup it's a shame. in the mean time all I can say is that the latest Takaya work is what got me back into Guyver. I really do like the latest arc but do feel Guyver II F has being in a lot of battles and is going through a baptism of fire in a big way.

I've moved the topic here for the time being hasnt it wasn't about the offical Guyver (about the only thing I'm bothered to mod these days). GuyverXenon I think done this awhile back (not 100% sure). I recall the name alright. If you use the forums search feature you'll be able to see jehuty in a topic or too. It's also possible it's in the Lair too.

The lead up to this story has being great. Due to the chances of us EVER getting a proper translation from offical sorces. My advice to those of you who want to know what happening is go to the Japan Ledgends forum and have a look from there for details. The work those guys have done is great.

: Another snipped part of the fiction. This is much later on in the story from the last and is on page 17/18. So far 10844 words. To give you guys some hint, this is a build up to the end of phase of of the story and the start to phase 2. Also this is more like draft 1. There is very little action wrote. Only talked of. That will be added in later has it was tyring to come up with action fights with the Grakken that bogged down the story in the first place. Though the story is a little boring now thanks to it being missing. Keeping focused though on the end goal. This will be the single biggest part of 7 days. In fact I could make it an 8 parter easy but feel by this stage it's best to simply finish this story off properly and altogether.

Note: This now also extends to the Creators. There has always being "something" that has protected the Earth from outside (alien) influances. It has being this "somethings" responibility to do so and it's bacause of this "something" with "somethings x amount" that Grakken fleets don't make their home on Earth. "Something" has being around a hell of a long time (ever since the WG event in time war) in one form or another. This "something" will be in 7 days 7 and in past fictions after rewrites when completed.... There you go a hit of something... New coming your way

9011 words now. Still not finished though.. In fact still a decent bit off.

This is more down to me been also rusty witht eh story. Yes the Grakken "knew of" the Relic with the Battle Unit. But still it needs better explaination why they relaxed on the information? Where they themselves expecting a Rescue for example? in what way did they get into a battle with Chronos over the Turbo unit. Which then begs the question why it took Chronos so long to get to the site of Primtive Guyver's old empire where Solom's lab Relic was located and the dormant Battle Unit. Will not go into detail by the rewrite will most likely have some new action and a more... let's just say more Agito naugtyness. Simply put the Battle Unit will have a harder time getting into ACTF's hand's this time.

I'm with you I never really thought about that. When you take a break for a few years, come back and then look over the future plot for Grakken's and what was stated in the fan-fiction before hand... Then you really notice. Simply it stemed from back 10 years ago I never thought the fan-fiction would be a big and complex a story has it is now. So there was not enough forward thought given to the Grakken. Now being older and wiser there is, but much like the past fan-fiction they need a bit of scrubbing up to make them have a proper background and fit into the story. This is also part of the reason why the WG-Fic site has it is now has being archived. There will be a few things treated a lot differently after the re-write. The Grakken is a major one of those, along with the Mercs.

Umm she already is one...... When did she get one? 7 Days, who do you think is the new Apothecary unit (I sense another light edit has it wasn't meant to be that hush hush)?

Umm she already is one......

The new character is just that new. I didn't say it has a connection with anyone being honest.

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Guyver 4's unit can remove a lot of different units has it is a more modren Creator unit. So anything they have decent information on from their records this unit can remove. A lot of test units though it can't remove. Yes they did capture one. Will they start hunting Warrior Guyvers with it? who knows but it's also the only thing they can use to keep Warrior Guyver Vamore in check. So it's not like they will want to waste it either. Jason and Cori basically saw what happens if he couldn't feed . The host and the unit go dormant and wait until someone is stupid enough to get close and then feeds. How he got to that state? Well he didn't beat Primitive Guyver, Primitive Guyver won that fight and left him there to rot (though being Primitive Guyver he probably had a plan for him at some point ) I'lkl not go into detail in HOW he won the fight though even after the rewrite.

I read that correctly? Sho, the original protagonist of Guyver, will get any upgrade? Yes, Sho will be getting a "new" unit. I wouldn't aggree there. Sho may orginally never wanted to be a Guyver. Yes that was the case. But in recent books from Takaya, Sho doesn't exactly like being a Guyver. But he's accpeted it and has taken the role of protector and uses it so that his friends will be safe. He see's himself and that of his firends in Japan has the risitance. So taking that into account. Yes will the oppertinity to get a new unit rivaling the Gigantic in power comes up without the draw backs of Stamina being limited. Sho takes it. There will be a cost to this though. Has the ending of 7 days shows a little of how political it's getting (see W'Kar's chat with Jason in his recent fiction for a hint, he wasn't far wrong. this also goes back to what Sean said in the Dark hero).

They have Queens. Won't go into in great detail now (will be a later story). The ones we've seen so far though do not have access to a Queen. The oldest queen was in fact the first Grakken to get a unit.

Note Grakken would have some token Science cast for the fleet which would be on their new home planet (hense how they juryrigged the Hunter). But in terms of solid advances in tech the Grakken we've seen are the ones from 1000 years ago and havn't being to their home system since. I've also not yet decided if Lostude will be killed off the way he was. Has a plot term it's important he is for later stories. So while he mightn't die the way he did and might in fact escape All Things Change alive in the re-write his future like all of the test units will be interesting. If you guys have any questions please ask in this tread. Ideas and updates that are relevent will be put into this post and the ones above. Even more so when 7 Days part 7 is done and the re-writes start. For another little history lesson behind this change. It wasn't until one day Mike and I had a chat on MSN about the Grakken that I serously considered them a race after a few weeks of debate about what makes them Grakken and not humans with 4 arms. What you're going to see after the re-writes and when 7 days is fully completed is the result of those chats and giving the Grakken some better development. :

Looking back on the posts over the last month and from reading the fiction myself I'm not happy with how the above 3 where used in the story and the rewrites will address this. 1. The Grakken Overall they make very little sense. Yes they are alien... but they are stupid aliens in the fan-fiction. They have come to Earth, looking for means of attacking the Creators. Yet they are in an all out war with Chronos in an odd way who in fact share the Grakken's desire for revenge. You could say ACTF is to blame for the way they sent the Grakken Craft back to them. But lets be burtally honest. They shouldn't have being able to do that. The GRakken ship is an alien ship. A ship of a race who fight the Creators and had a VERY long war with them. Yet the bog standard Guyver unit can command one of their ships? Short answer nooo it can't. So with the removal of that after the re-write Chronso and the Grakken will be in a cold war of sorts. 2. Cori - almost everything about the way she became the Battle Guyver simply doesn't work. Teh Grakken have the Battle unit yet stay on Earth? With that tech they can vastly upgrade their race. Yet don't leave with their prize. Yes they are hoping for another unit but there must be a reason for it. Then we've the whole thing about them capturing Cori. It's not explained why in great detail. Yes she's the main ACTF person in the fan-fic for finding dorment units. But who or why she became a target needs to be explained. It also needs some more build up to why Guyver US and Warrior Guyver went after them. 3. The Mercs Richard Baxter must be the dumbest rich man in the planet. Attacking both ACTF and Chronos? Then looking to Alkanphel to make a treaty? These events need to change and change heavily. So basically what you saw happen with the Merc's will roughly happen has they did before. In that they for a short while joined ACTF. They somewhat got on with them but for the most part the bulk of them did not. The Merc's are not the most diplmatic buch even with each other and do what Merc's do. They went tothe highest bidder which was Baxter. The group will split has before down the lines of those not obessed with cash and those that simply can't refuse such a huge amount of cash. But there is no combat between the two groups other than where things get too personal before the group decided to split. Overall I want to give this event a lot more build up and a lot more character. So in the end when the mercs do cut ties with ACTF and join Baxter it hurts. Even more so has Carter can't do anything about it. The Merc's simply leave, he gets a call from the Priesident and is told they are no longer his to command. The events of how the Merc's get involved in a war with Chronos will be different than before. Baxter is the diplmatic arm of the Grakken that have being stranded on Earth for the last 16 years (this is thanks to the Enforcer Prime, they are the last of a fleet that attacked him and the fleet he commanded on Mars when Isis was to be taken to Earth). Has you need to know this for 7 Days part 7 to make sense here's an overall picture of how things worked with the Grakken. 1. The ship underwater near the US was a rather large escape pod from a Grakken ship. Damaged they are all that remains of the fleet mentioned before and are standed on Earth. They reach out over time and make alliances with Baxter first. Through him they start to make an empire based on business and money based on what Baxter can backwards tech from the Grakken. Over time and a few years before hand they make contact with Area 53 and learn of Martin and his control over the place. They start to trade tech with him looking for the means of getting a satalite in space capable of commincation with their home empire. By the time for Time War Jason and Sean mess up what happens in Area 52 much like they did before (though without any chat with the Grakken). It is from MArtin they learn about who and what the Grakken are (up until then they just new they where alien Guyvers of some kind - this is after the rewrite of Union where the grakken is a lot less talkative). Baxter is the reason Cori was kidnapped. She was getting close to finding the Turbo unit and Battle Unit's relic. The fight in Union was a cover for another Grakken force to strike ACTF and capture her. Chronos and the Grakken fought for the control of this Relic and is the start point of their battles on Earth. Each side capture a unit has before. Though Chronos know nothing about Cori. The Grakken on Earth capture the Battle unit and get what they wanted from Baxter in the end who gets a satalite into space (it was though meant to be an ACTF coms satalite. Has a reward he's given access a a Grakken unit. They call for help from the home fleet. Cyber Guyver is the one who discovers this message. Events which lead to Resuce. Though events aren't on the ship in the sea, but on the Rescue ship sent for the Grakken and to recover the Battle Unit. 4. Area 51 This too will happen differently has said. Though the reason Chronso stayed away was simple. They already knew of events srounding the place thanks to Isis' sister. Chronos never attacked Area 51 in force in the fan-fiction, only a token force everyone once in awhile which the Aceaer Martin killed off with the Marines on site. The Grakken worked with him because of a simple reason. WArrior Cast Grakken do not know anything along the lines of Scince. Grakken breed towards different casts. the warrior cast being the only ones we've since. The Fleet we've seen so far up until 7 Days has always being the fleet cut off from the main Grakken Empire, as such they've being cut off from the science cast. Chronos still capture Martin pretty much has before. The ending of All Things Change part 4 will pretty much be the same has before. Grakken try to make peace with Chronos through the Mercs and Baxter. But "someone" squeals on them. ACTF interferes at this point. the result = Chaos over New York and Dreadnought winning the day. ______________________________________ There you go. This should keep ye up to date on the changes in mind for the Grakken, Cori etc.

No Comment (I'm getting back to form on those!) I wouldn't exactly put W'kar down has an ACTF ally. Everything he's done so far has being for his own amusement. He's yet to go and outright kill someone important (Kron is still alive for example though that would mostly be down to W'Kar not knowing he needed to destroy the head too!). The chances of W'Kar respecting Carter in anyway is also very small. Angel has per Alan's fiction is also getting to the point where she needs a break from it all. Dreadnought will not exactly be in the "lets attack Chronos mood" for awhile either along with Zeumga (ACTF did try and steal zoa-tech from Elera and maybe from Zuegma). So unless Chronos does something to make it personal e.g. attack Dreadnought to provoke him they will not be in danger from him for awhile. If you think about it logically has well. Dreadnought's next target won't be Alkanphel etc. It'll be the thing that gives him the most to fear about in the short term. Elminator would be the obvious target for him has Fiona will not be someone he'd be prepared to lose a second time. So that would be another reason why he's not going to go running off to attack Chronos unless they do something to make the loss of Fiona seem smaller to what they could do to him / other people he cares about. Problem for Dreanought is Eliminator isn't eaxactly stupid and isn't going to get bored. It will strike when it's ready. That leaves ACTF with Gilgamesh and Dark Nova (if she's avilable) for a preemtive attack on Chronos (going by events to 7 days part 6 - remember you've not seen the changes of part 7 yet).

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I aggree there that 7 Days is such a complex story that the next few character stories and stories will referance back to it for a long time to come. By the time 7 Day's is completed a lot of character will be changed, or have events change them on a personal level. that was part of the reason behind the name of the story. Almost everyone that went into had something removed from them in return on a real or personal level, so the cost of the story to all sides is huge. Dreadnought has lost his alligance with ACTF. Jenny has regained her sanity but lost the ability to command zoa-forms of Chronos (something that needs to be shown more in previous stories and will be used in the re-writes a litle more). The relationship between her and Jason is going to be very strained. She might have gained the powers of a Black Nova unit which is technically an upgrade. But it's not like she wanted it or will enjoy it any time soon. Which if you look at it another way is of huge cost to ACTF has they lost something has powerful has a Gigantic Guyver thanks to you know who. Chronos has lost it's top rank of leadership with but Alkanphel and Kron out of action for a long time to come. Bare in mind the time frames concerned. Dreadnought was in a cocoon a lot less time because he had a Matrix help which sought him out when damaged. Warrior Guyer Natasha hasn't got such a complete Matrix and also has the Darmon Crystals inside the cocoon with her. Has such her time inside that cocoon is going to be random. So for all 3 cocoons they could be in there for a long time. They are also very at danger inside those which means Chronos will have to guard them extreamely well. Given the chance that Dreadnought / Dark Nova / W'Kar etc could attack it that means a LOT of Chronos's heavy hitters will be close by in some way or another. Chronos also has lost a huge percentage of their Bio-Titans. it will take them a long time to recover that. ACTF too is in a simular situation to that of Chronos. They have lost a lot of their forces and equipment. They lost Dreadnought, Zeugma and Guardian (Faye) and too a lesser extent Elera. They have also not gained access to Zygote Guyver who has the potential to make an army of clone warriors. What they gained so far is Gilgamesh who doesn't make up for the loss. Yes they do have limited access to Dreadnought through the fact he still considers himself to owe the likes of Guyver US a lot. But it''s not the control they enjoyed before and they can't team him up with their newest heavy hitter Gilgamesh. Simply put he and Dreadnought have issues. When you consider all those and not just the events of what Part 7 will bring. You can see for a long time to come this story will shape everything else to come for a long long time.

I have, and there will be more insight to other characters events from their view at a later stage. But for 7 days part 7 the idea felt cheap to simply end it and then do a few flections considering the 6 parts before it.

Exactly, will make things interesting but not sutiply powerful that they are unkillable by even a standard Guyver (even Alkanphel cought totally unaware without his defense up would be killable by a normal Guyver technically), but make it so if they did fight a Gigantic Guyver a hole in their chest from a signle power punch wouldn't kill them off has it does now. To bring this topic to conclusion. You guys have being of great help in bringing the choice together. Guyver 2 F - will be in the fan-fiction. But will die sometime between when she appeared in the Books and the Union Story (that I'll leave very vauge for the moment). Female Guyver 2 (the Valcuria from another universe) will get a more hostile reaction from Chronos because of what her alternative reality self did. Though still has in the fan-fiction before join Chronos after the realise she's not the Guyver 2 F. Omega Aptom - Will happen in the fan-fiction (so expect a much different start to the Union story after the re-write). Note he'll still be upgraded by absorbing a Proto Zoalord so those powers he had before will basically mix with that of Murakami (will let your imaginations run there).

being burtally honest. Not a clue (basically it's like asking how long is a peice of string). But the end result will ne nice. There story has 3 phases really. Phase 1 is nearly there and reaching it's end point (not saying how that part of the story ends but you'll notice). Phase 1 will be the longest part of the story. Phase 2 will begin then and deal with some of P1's aftermath but will mainly begin the next battle. Phase 3 will be all basically coming to terms with the results of Phase 1 and 2 and will conclude the story from the view points of most of those that have taken part in all parts of 7 Days.