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New attack in manga used in the fanfiction?
zeo replied to guyverfanatic's topic in Warrior Guyver Fan-Fiction
No, those are the extended spikes from the shoulder pods that normally don't appear to do anything and up to now has just been considered part of the Barrier shield generating system. This is the first time they have ever been extended. The chest spike is the only thing blade like being extended there but is also known to channel the gravitational energy of the unit so is probably using all three to generate an energy focusing field for whatever Sho plans to do. -
Uh, guys... You're missing something... Those shields can only withstand that much when they are protecting just Dreadnought but the crashed clan ship is huge and he would have to spread the shield for over a mile radius to be sure nothing important got into the Grakken's possession. So the shield would be far less effective spread over such a large distance.
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Actually time for it to have an effect.
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Actually, enhanced by the Unit the Guyver Zoalord could just rip a vortex into hyper space and travel to any other reality. Remember Hyper Space is part of the multiverse and with enough energy portals into hyper space can be created. Not to mention the use of wormholes which like the Jet Li movie, "The One", can also be used to cross into other realities. And with his gravitational powers the Guyver Zoalord could have created his own wormholes. As for Zoalords, some have shown to specifically have dimension warping abilities and Alkanphel has demonstrated he can create spatial rifts and even escaped a black hole. So the potential is already there.
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New attack in manga used in the fanfiction?
zeo replied to guyverfanatic's topic in Warrior Guyver Fan-Fiction
Hasn't used it yet, but it is something that takes a lot of charging up and may even surpass the Giga Smashers. -
The AI's are pretty much hardwired for most Guyvers, they aren't capable of learning and such. So any such virus would most likely have to infect the host brain, which we now know the CM accesses to augment its own processing capability. But would have to get past the self correcting nature of the CM which would prevent outside alterations to the host. Though the more advance CM's may be a different story. It's like cellphones, before no one could give them a virus but as they got more advance and more computerized they became vulnerable to viruses. Basically for every advantage there is also generally a disadvantage to counter balance it, but this sort of vulnerability is not something that can be easily taken advantage of. At the very least it would take time.
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Hmm, a 40x Guyver Hyper Zoanoid... Oh, I'd say a couple of minutes at least. While the Grakken only need like one minute to get what they want from the crashed clan ship.
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You could always limit it to doing the re-write when you're not working on anything new or have time to kill waiting for the other writers to catch up.
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We don't know how the Creators made the Units, there is still debate if the Relic and Guyver Units are made from the same organism or not. So aside from the fact both use CM's we have nothing really to go on. The closest we got is the second live action movie, "Guyver 2: Dark Hero" In which a Guyver Unit is shown coming from a wall instead of the unit pedestal but the movie is a reinterpretation so is not official or comparable to the Manga.
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The Metal Orbs are the representation of the Control Medals, not the Creators. Often times the Creators only interacted with their creations mentally and since they wore units all that was seen was a mental impression of the CM. We were never shown the creators natural forms and we do not know what they looked like. The idea that they are some sort of ascended beings is pure speculation, which I disagree with since the Manga clearly stated they had 1/10th the power of a Guyver with the Unit and that could only be if they had a physical form for the unit to Bio-Boost.
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You know what they say, "Be careful what you wish for!"
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As McAvoy already stated you have essentially answered your own question but to clarify let's correct the fact that Anubis did not add a HSL, Anubis just gave it an energy handling system so it could handle more energy, or as has been described "super charger" Please, remember the limitations of the technology. Even though the matrix may seem like magic tech the Matrix was based on very real principles of science of what is theoretically possible. For example the rules of thermodynamics and conservation of energy is not violated, as we endeavored to make the fic as believable as possible. Consequently, we have imposed rules such as that the HSL requires a host to properly regulate the energy flow and even then the flow is limited to the tolerance of the host. Without a host energy flow has to be kept at a minimum to prevent power overload for the same reason you can't plug anything into an electric grid and not have something to regulate it. For example if you hooked a light bulb to the full power of the power grid of your local power company you'll just succeed in exploding the bulb, if not burn your house down. Hyper Space has infinite energy, which is not something to take lightly. This is also why CPM's, which are based on HSL technology, are limited to the 4x power threshold. For the Red Matrix the energy draining system helps both increase the amount of energy the matrix could store but also increases how much energy could be handled at any one time, which is why the Red Matrix seems more powerful even though it is really a partially crippled Matrix.
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That would still be a brain, which is required for the CM interface if nothing else.
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Asteroid Destruction Analysis
zeo replied to McAvoy's topic in Guyver Science / General Science Lab Forum
The Asteroid was completely shattered, Aranor, and the moon was already around when this happened. No large chunks made it to the Earth, only a shower of a couple small bits just large enough to cause nuclear scale explosions on impact and like I pointed out before something a mere 50-60 meters in diameter can produce explosions equivalent to an H-Bomb. This compared to the thousand of meters diameter of the original asteroid shows no more than 1%, probably less, of the mass made it through. Gravity is relative, you can't go by size alone as we have no idea how dense that asteroid was. The asteroid clearly had no atmosphere for example and the crater marks indicate it may never have had one, which suggests it didn't have the gravity needed to contain one. The large crack it had also indicates it was as cold as a moon since a molten interior would have eroded that crack, which also suggests it's gravity isn't great enough to cause internal pressure needed to keep a molten interior, though a lot of Earth's internal heat comes from fission material. Your size estimate may also be off a bit since the asteroid impact is mostly facing us at an angle in the point of view shown so the asteroid is slightly closer to that point of view than the Earth, which would offset it's size by the depth perception. Not by much of course but at least 2/3rd's of the asteroid was still above the Earth and would offset the size perception by that distance and so it could be a couple hundred kilometers smaller in diameter than you are presently estimating since you are using a flat 2D interpretation to determine the size right now and aren't correcting for depth distortion. And of course we are assuming that image is accurate since it is just a mental interpretation of what if the asteroid had hit since Alkanphel had prevented that no one actually saw the impact since it never happened. So is left to the mental impression Imakarum was getting from Alkanphel's memories. No, the gravity would have increased the impact not dampen it. The gravity would only dampen the fallout. Anything that causes an acceleration of the impact speeds will increase the force of impact. Again that is the after effects, not the impact. The gravity just dampens the fallout so everything doesn't fly completely apart and eventually brings most of it back together. But you are assuming that the excess mass isn't lost to space as some if not a lot of that impact would have caused matter to reach escape velocity. So when the planet eventually reformed its mass could vary depending on how much mass was lost to deep space. The moon for example, according the prevailing theory it was formed when an asteroid slammed into the Earth and knocked a large piece into space that formed the moon. That mass has never been recovered and the moon is slowly moving away from the Earth and will eventually be lost to space. You misunderstand my theory, I said it only has to use the asteroid's own momentum to destroy it. The mass doesn't even have to be vaporized to accomplish this. By redirecting the kinetic energy inward it not only shatters the asteroid but sends it away from the Earth, which is why I used the baseball analogy with the bat hitting a pitched ball example. The asteroid doesn't have to be sent back with equal velocity since it already had enough to shatter the much larger earth means it had more than enough energy to destroy itself and send the mass away from the Earth. They just needed to move away fast enough to reach escape velocity and if near or further than the orbit of the moon then it would require far less energy to reach escape velocity compared to doing it near or on the Earth where gravity is stronger. In fact if the point of impact was facing towards the outer planets for example the mass of the asteroid could have become part of the asteroid belt between Mars and Jupiter for example. The whole point of my theory was that the mass of the asteroid gets deflected, while a straight on collision would only have shattered the asteroid and left most if not all of it to go on to hit the Earth. They wouldn't have to accelerate it, they sent it through hyper space and so could just redirect it. The Earth for example has an orbital velocity just under 30 km/s, which means the asteroid could easily have been going 65,000 MPH if not faster. Mercury for example has an orbital velocity of about 108,000 MPH. So all they needed was to release it pointed towards the Earth and its own momentum would do the rest. Also it would only orbit the Earth if it missed, a head on collision would indeed accelerate it as both the gravity of the earth and the asteroid pulled them together. Fortunately it was destroyed far enough away that it's gravity didn't effect the Earth, at least any more than our own moon does since it wasn't there long enough (gravity weakens quickly over distance which is why it is weaker than the other forces like the electromagnetic field), and not more than tiny fragments made it to the Earth. For example it was viewable from Earth as the human population was looking at it but though it is much bigger than our moon it didn't appear much bigger so had to be as far if not further away than the moon. So wasn't yet close enough to cause its gravity to effect the Earth. -
Asteroid Destruction Analysis
zeo replied to McAvoy's topic in Guyver Science / General Science Lab Forum
Oh, I'd say enough energy to vaporize half a continent give or take. Which itself sounds like a lot and compared to our own nuclear arsenal it is but compared to the power of the Asteroid itself counts only as a tiny fraction of its power. Though he only needed to maintain his shields for about a second, they still had to be able to withstand the impact for that period of time to deflect the force back into the asteroid and cause it to shatter. Course it also depends how Alkanphel's shield works, if gravity based for example it could have absorbed some of the energy of impact and used it to increase it's own kinetic power. The main advantage is that since he was using raw energy, unlike a normal object on object impact, he could use 100% of it for the desired effect compared to material impacts which only store and exchange kinetic energy. Leaving the energy of total mass behind no matter the exchange of kinetic energy. Basically this means Alkanphel could do with his shield what would normally have taken an equal amount of mass/momentum to accomplish. Since he only had to really deal with the kinetic energy, which itself could then destroy the asteroid. Essentially you can think of kinetic energy like a wave and waves can be redirected, like a bat hitting a baseball can redirect the kinetic energy of the ball and send it in the opposite direction. This is why a pitched ball will always get hit farther than if the batter just hit the ball with the bat. While the problem with Alkanphel himself providing the total energy is with e=mc^2 means he simply doesn't have the mass to store that much energy, even if his Zoacrystal provided him with the energy equivalent of thousands of tons, and even accelerating to some fraction of the speed of light would not have provided him with enough momentum so the only explaination I believe is he redirected the energy of impact back into the asteroid and seems to fit since a mere impact scenario would have left the mass of the asteroid to still hit the Earth, since the momentum would still effect the individual pieces and so would still all be headed towards the Earth. As it is only tiny fragments of the Asteroid, which were still pretty big by our standards, made it through to hit the Earth with enough force to cause another ice age. If they had been any bigger then there would still be no life on Earth. Remember the impact would have shattered the whole planet, any sizeable chunk would still have done the job so only relative small fragments could have made it through and left a chance for life to survive. An example of how powerful a meteor impact can be is the great Siberian explosion that occurred over central Asia on June 30, 1908 Though it was only 50-60 meters in diameter it still had an explosive energy roughly on order of 60 A-bombs, or 500 KT of TNT. It takes an H-Bomb to rival that level of power, and the explosion flattened an entire forest even though it exploded 5-6 kilometers above and it's effects could be seen for hundreds of miles. The shockwave even managed to circle the planet twice. So I believe less than 1% of the Asteroid in the manga made it through to hit the Earth. -
Asteroid Destruction Analysis
zeo replied to McAvoy's topic in Guyver Science / General Science Lab Forum
Yes that thing is bigger than our moon. Excellent Analysis McAvoy, most people never realize just how much power it takes to destroy something that size. Course we have to make assumptions on what that Asteroid was composed of but never the less the amount of energy required is truly immense. Over on theGuyver.net board I often got in arguments over this scene because the translation only says it's a gigantic meteor or asteroid and never called it a moon, though it is clearly the size of one if not, as your analysis indicates, bigger. I think my suggestion on theGuyver.net board fits best that Alkanphel probably redirected some of the asteroid's own kinentic energy back at it with his mega shield ram as there is no way he could have that much power himself. Otherwise he'd be way more powerful than the other 12 Zoalord's combined and the Guyver might as well be an insect to him if he had that kind of power. His shield only had to last during the first instant of the impact to accomplish that and the Asteroid was already moving fast enough so it's mass would shatter the Earth so redirecting its kinetic energy back on itself would have provided more than enough energy to destroy it. -
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No, the Gigantic interfaces directly with the Unit CM which becomes the top two layers of the Gigantic CM. So has to fit perfectly. The Grakken CM is a different configeration so they could not work with the existing Gigantics. But they do have limited access to Creator technology so they might adapt the Relic technology, now that they've seen the power of the Gigantic, for an all new type of Destroyer Armor but the Gigantic took a year to form naturally and they would be doing it pretty much the same we would so it would be a few years before they get their own version of the Gigantic at the earliest.
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Could base it on the WG polymorphic blade technology and then it explains the position as well since polymorphic blades respond to the user will and thus would take the form they imagine.
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It just takes a lot longer to start from scratch and a Control Medal is very advance, the complexity was enough for it to take days to upgrade GC to WGC, so imagine how long it would have taken to do that from scratch!? Btw, the Matrix already has HSL as well a slew of other energy source options. What you have to realize though is that having HSL doesn't mean it has infinite power, just unlimited reserves. Just like the CPM's the Matrix can only draw so much power at a time and the HSL system is specifically limited by the capacity of the host, which the Matrix by itself has none. But this too is a lot more impressive than you realize, the energy needed to re-arrange matter can easily go into the giga-joules range. Remember it takes about as much energy, if not more, to create something than destroy it.
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The quantum field is actually just one aspect of how the Matrix's powers work, which has multi-dimensional properties itself and has already shown it can manipulate dimensions for a variety of effects, but the basic gist of it is that the Matrix can't create a field strong enough to penetrate the W'Kar Element energy field, which since it is multi-dimensional means it is extremely concentrated and powerful. Remember we pretty much stated from the beginning that the Matrix's one drawback is it's lack of raw power. While the W'Kar Element is virtually power encarnate. A good example to show how much energy multi-dimensional matter can contain is the movie "Supernova" in which something like an ounce of higher dimensional matter collapses and releases the energy of a Supernova, destroying everything for light years in all directions. Though W'Kar's Element doesn't quite have that level of energy concentration yet, it is building up to that and it does show what the Matrix is dealing with and why it doesn't work well near it.
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Actually no, like I said the paradox acts like a black hole to the multiverse with realities collapsing into each other forming an amalgamated mess. It's one of the reasons the Kregen really don't like it. To them the WG universe is like a dead zone. It's really, really, really, really, really, simple since I already said why. Here's an analogy, imagine you wanted to talk to someone in the middle of a class 5 twister (that's the finger of god type), the person inside the twister is blissfully unaware of the damage going on around them since they are at the heart of the storm, but any attempt to even approach the twister will most likely result in your death and the destruction of anything else you try to send in. Also remember that both me and Allen have already really, really, really emphasized the fact the Kregen are not gods. Now imagine the Kregen even considering trying and I'll show you an insane and suicidal Kregen. So I repeat Jason is the Nexus of the Time Paradox, there is no way for the Kregen to communicate with him and no point since only the end of his existence will stop the Time Paradox. Back to the analogy... Air is also a medium and the twister doesn't cut you off from that medium, it just makes certain interactions with it dangerous. It doesn't mean air is unsafe or untranversable. Similarly hyper space continues to function as before. But like getting hit by a Tsunami those effected by the paradox are not the same as before. Really, Jason and the rest of the WG universe is pretty much already effected by the time paradox so they don't notice anything. Only those like the Kregen are really aware of the damage being done. That would be a lie, the Paradox created the world he knows. It's dangerous only to other realities and the multi-verse beings like the Kregen. Incorrect impression, they want the time paradox undone. And yes, they also want future disasters adverted as well. If the problem was static then they wouldn't worry as much but just like a black hole you just can't ignore it and also just like a black hole just because it already has done damage doesn't mean it's done doing damage. While the elimination of a single time line would only cause another to take its place but a time paradox causes different realities to overlap and collapse into each other. Sometimes goodguy or badguy are separated only by the perception of the observer. Anubis wants to create order, he's just absolutely ruthless about how he will achieve that goal. While the Kregen have always acted in their own best interest, their concern is themselves and the multiverse. Jason on the other hand is only concerned about his one corner of the multiverse. In some respects they each consider themselves the good guy and if they ever meet then they will consider the other the bad guy. That's one of the problems with a paradox, hard to know where it begins and where it ends. The thing to remember is there had always been a link between the WG2 and WG universes. After all it was the WG2 Creators that created the Barrier to prevent the Guyver Zoalord of the WG universe from escaping into other realities. But that was a response to the original time line. So since the purpose of the barrier is linked to the original time line the paradox which eliminated that threat would in turn have effected and thus corrupted the WG2 universe. Which brings up whether we should consider WG2 bringing the Matrix to Jason as coincidents or not.
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Because it would have done no good. Just imagine the conversation, "Mr. O'Conner, can you please cease to exist, or just off yourself, so we can repair the damage you've done to the Multi-verse. Oh, btw everyone you know will also cease to exist when we restore the original time line." Really, Jason is the Nexus of the Time Paradox and that's something they simply can't talk him out of. That's like asking someone if they could make it so they were never born to begin with. Not to mention being the Nexus of the Time Paradox means wherever he is the Paradox follows so they couldn't talk to him even if they wanted to. Because once a paradox is created it is impossible for the Kregen to do anything to that reality until the source has been removed. The Kregen aren't just blocked from the WG Earth, they are blocked from the WG universe. And the ripples of that disruption is even spreading to other realities. The multiverse is all connected, all that would do is slow the spread of the contamination. You just answered your own question. Btw, dimensional contamination is nowhere near as bad as a Time Paradox. The difference being a Time Paradox is the equivalent of a black hole for the multi-verse. You have multiple realities collapsing into each other to form a new amalgamated reality. But each reality is still its own but intermingled as they co-exist. Basically a distorted mess. While dimension hoping is like little earthquakes. Things get shaken up but life goes on for the multiverse. And the Kregen would only be concerned about things that effect the Multi-verse. Whether we live or die means nothing to the Kregen, we're like ants to them anyway. So unless we do something that bothers them they will ignore us just like we ignore ants. So they really aren't that worried about Anubis or even Zagam but they are worried about Jason.
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For the Guyver there really isn't much difference, especially for Warrior Guyvers. Partly, but she's also less dense by ~900 pounds and less than half of that is because of her smaller frame.
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No, the Kregen are not gods. They aren't aware of everything happening in all realities at the same time. In fact the paradox makes it hard for them to even look into the WG universe. If you ever watched the movie, or read the book it was based on, "The Sound of Thunder" you'd see even the tiniest of things can cause major changes to the time stream. What Jason did was like the Butterfly effect times infinity! Speaking of which the "Butterfly Effect" is another good movie example, but that movie only involved the years and events of a single person. This compared to the Time War event which at minimum effected Earth and all the worlds of the Creators. Also once a Time Paradox is created it is almost impossible to undo. So once the Kregen became aware of the event it was already too late for them to do anything about it. So they do in fact want the Time War Paradox undone. They just can't do it while Jason still exists. It'll basically be like trying to repair the damage from a hurricane while the hurricane is still there. Anyway, why do you all think Jason is going to die just because the Kregen want him gone? Like I said the Kregen aren't gods, they're just multi-dimensional beings. They didn't even predict Anubis and they already said he wasn't suppose to happen. And though he too threatens other realities they haven't done anything to him either. This is in part because they believe they have to deal with the source before they can deal with the symptoms. But it doesn't mean it is the only way to fix the situation.