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We do not know that the Unit gave the creators humanoid form. We were never shown their physical form, only a mental impression of their existence and the fact is the unit would take on any form the host had. This is why the theories about them have been so wild. And Guyver Zero was the first and only test on any life on Earth with bonding to the Creator's Unit. Not to mention the Creators didn't start off developing humans, the dinosaurs were also part of their weapons development and they stayed along for that path for far longer than they did developing humans. So we have no idea what they looked like or what requirements if any they had for the form they were looking for. They just happened upon humans in the last part of the their project. The Creator ships themselves show there was no need for physical limbs at all since everything responded to their will and within the Relic one could simply float anywhere they wanted to go. So any assumption of their physical form is just assumption. The idea they are energy beings is also assumption and a wrong one since we know that during Guyver Zero's attack some of them died and that would not have happened unless they had a physical form that could be effected. Also energy beings need an environment in order to contain their energy which the Relics do not provide.
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The entire WG2 fic was just a week... Feb 1, Stephen bonded with the WG2 unit... Feb 2, the first WK is encountered... the next day 20 more WK's show up all over the world until finally the ACTF meet with Alkanphel to form a plan... 2 days later the ships are ready and launch... 3 days after that the Creators show up and the final battle ensues-ending with WG2 leaving to the WG universe. So the whole fic took place in a time frame of one week. Also remember the moment he got to the WG universe WG2 was slammed right into action. So really it would have been about 3 months before he would have had time to narrate what happened to him in any real detail. Btw, WG2 officially showed up in the WG universe November 21, 1999. So he traveled forward in time reaching the WG universe. Feb 1 to near end of Nov = ~9 months. So basically Stephen was telling the story from his perspective of three months.
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Unit's conform to their specific design and specifications. For example when G1 absorbed the Rogue Clone Monster, despite the monster being larger than G1 and apparently strong enough to pin G1's arms the unit just slurped it up with zero net difference afterward. So it wouldn't do any good to just absorb the mass of another Relic, besides it would probably need to merge with the Relic CM to encorporate the Relic organism just like it was done with the Gigantic. Besides the Gigantic has already shown in the Manga that it can grow to about 60 meters tall, so there really isn't a need for something like that since the Gigantic can already enhance itself when needed.
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Actually the story went in and out of narrative perspective. Stephen clearly stated from the beginning that he was telling the story from three months later-his time!!! So regardless of the time in the WG universe it had been 3 months for Stephen since he experienced those events. And if you note the first and last paragraph of the second part he went back to narrative perspective as he described where he had left off and in the end when meeting himself. It's a bit confusing but we couldn't tell the whole story from a 3rd person perspective if the person telling the story had a direct role in it. Not to mention it was one of our first stories, and our writing skills weren't what they are now. In fact we almost didn't finish the the WG2 story and almost dropped it for a more generic description of what happened. But one of these days we'll do an edit and fix it up to be more clear. Though only Chronicles will do an actual re-write of the events.
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I would say no on the basis that the nature of the host CM link to the Relic CM is basically an extension of the host consciousness as the two Relic CM's link with the host CM. But this would prevent linking with more than one Relic set of CM's as then the host mind would be split between the two. At the very least the link with the second Relic would be weaker. We actually do know that Relic CM's can change form to an extent since we did see the two Relic CM's go back to back and merge together to form a single large two sided CM that then formed the Gigantic Cocoon. Also the Relic CM that formed the Gigantic also didn't completely merge with the host CM, rather only enough of it seems to have been used to form the outer third ring of the Gigantic CM, which also shows a change in form, but the two Relic CM's were much larger. Combined with the link with the Cocoon, which stays in hyper space when not in use, suggests the remainder of the Relic CM's reside inside the Cocoon and thus not all of it was needed to create the Gigantic. Though this last bit is speculation the fact the Cocoon can go back and forth from Hyper Space leaves little doubt that this is the case. So any additional Relic CM's would basically be redundant and not add to the Gigantic. After all there is only one host mind for all of them to link to. It could be for example that a Guyver may not be able to pilot a Relic while using the Gigantic, especially since we have seen the normal CM seems to need to expose itself when linking up with the Relic CM's. But it already does that when it links up with the Gigantic CM ring, so it can't extend any further. However this is not to say the idea is impossible, just unlikely. Creator technology is adaptable, being living technology does have its advantages after all. So there is a remote possibility that your idea could be possible but I think it would require quite a bit of will power from the host to pull it off. But even if the Gigantic did manage to link up with another set of Relic CM's, they would most likely be used to form something else besides merging with the Gigantic. Perhaps instead merging with the Cocoon to form a different type of Upgrade like personal ship instead of just a Cocoon as it is now?
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Yes, WG2 universe did have WG happen a year ahead but the month was the same. Remember it was stated it took place a few months before February, which means 3-4 months prior. August would be 6 months prior. Feb 2 was actually the next day after WG2 got his Unit and is when the WK showed up, over the next few days after that the other WK's showed up until Chronos and ACTF met and made a deal. So the whole thing took about a week, which means WG2 was telling the story from the WG universe. Basically in addition to the time differential this was also to show the difference in the history of the two worlds.
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I think this is a case of looking for a discrepancy when there isn't one. Basically largo's assumption is correct. It doesn't really mention WG's activation date in the WG2 fic, it only states that Jason became WG a few months prior to February which would have put it to the same time period as the WG universe Jason's activation time period. February 1, 1999 was just the date Stephen became WG2, not Jason. So as far as time line goes they are pretty much the same. The Jason of the WG2 universe just never experienced the Time War event and without that event Alkanphel never took a direct interest in Jason so his sister was never captured and turned into an Overlord in the WG2 universe. There is however a time difference between realities, other realities like GWOTG are even years ahead of the WG universe for example. Basically time works differently in the multi-verse and the natural pathways between realities don't all lead to the same time period. WG2 could have easily wound up in any time period and it is probably thanks to the Matrix that he even got close to the same time period. Fic wise, the time difference was needed to realistically allow WG to be around and for the world to have time after WG2 activation to prepare for at least some of humanity to escape. So we just had him go back in time when he arrived to line him up with the main fic time line which hadn't yet reached the time period the WG2 fic ended with. After all with Time War we already set a precedent that hyper space could be used for time travel and unlike CG, who came from the WG future, WG2 came from a parallel reality which makes time travel easier since it doesn't violate causuality.
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Do you think Warrior Guyver is a redundant name?
zeo replied to zeo's topic in Warrior Guyver Fan-Fiction
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Guyver: The Miracle Cure?
zeo replied to Guyver0's topic in Guyver Science / General Science Lab Forum
It would have to recognize it as a problem first but you have to remember the human host is an alien to the Unit. Even our own bodies can't realize that HIV is bad, how do you expect the Unit to realize it? Fact is people can live decades with HIV and show no symptoms, so simply having it in your system doesn't automatically raises any red flags. Also there is the fact the host is returned to their original state when the unit deactivates. The host isn't permanently enhanced. So I see it as just a stop gap measure and not a cure unless the person stays bonded for the rest of their life. Even if the host is made immune to the disease it doesn't mean it will remove the virus from their system so the host could still be a carrier. -
Probably too busy either saving up or going out of their way to buy them up than to post a thank you for the info here
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In the Manga it was revealed by Barcus that Alkanphel can control even a lost number or a human. A feat that would take all 12 of the other Zoalords to match or one using the Psycho Wave Amplifier generator to boost their mind control power. Basically it is mind control, the psycho wave is a special mental wave that bends the will of whoever it effects. Telepathy is just used then to give commands. But this requires powerful signal to control just one person, so the Creators added genetic modification to the zoanoids that made this control easier by making zoaforms very susceptible to the psycho waves. The Creators themselves were equal to Alkanphel in generating these psycho wave mind control signals, combined with the presumably large number of Creators running the project meant they had no doubt they could control a human, processed or not. But something fundamental to life on Earth causes the Guyver effect when a Unit is bonded to a human and thus made all their creations potential Guyvers. Alkanphel was already barely within their comfort level of control, having given him their level of mental power. So the thought of him becoming a Guyver scared them so much they decided to wipe out the entire planet just to remove even the remote possibility of it ever happening. How the above will apply to the WG fan fiction hasn't yet been discussed but shouldn't really change anything we have done so far.
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Do you think Warrior Guyver is a redundant name?
zeo replied to zeo's topic in Warrior Guyver Fan-Fiction
Hey, blame for what? I said from the beginning that I just wanted to know what you all thought. -
It's actually official cannon that a Master Zoalord can control lesser zoalords, it was one of the reasons Guyote ran away from Alkanphel. It was once compared that a Master Zoalord like Alkanphel could control even a human or lost number and that feet would take all 12 other Zoalords to match or one using the Wave Amplifier generator, which allows a single Zoalord to control all Zoanoids around the planet. Similarly Guyote had some control over Murikami, he even kept him from moving or transforming at one point but a moment of rage let him break free and transform. But Guyote ultimately killed him by using his Zoacrystal to shatter Murikami's. Even Alkanphel had to obey the Creators but through an act of will over came it to stop the asteroid from destroying the Earth. So basically we follow that in the fan fiction so Zoalords can control lesser Zoalords but only to a limit since as Zoalords they have the potential to resist if they have a strong enough will. Unlike Zoanoids, which have no choice but to obey unconditionally.
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It happened before Dreadnought returned from Strange World, it was all stated in the fic. Just re-read the first fic in the 7 DOH story line, or just do a word search in that story for "Tonnin" to take you right to the revelant paragraph.
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Tonnin & Eliminator vs. Atrahasis
zeo replied to guyverfanatic's topic in Warrior Guyver Fan-Fiction
Uh, you might want to reread that fight since it took a lot more than just Dreadnought and W'Kar to defeat the Atrahasis. And lets not forget W'Kar was in Warrior Rage mode then too, so his power level was way up and had Dreadnought feeding him energy along with the other surviving fighters in that battle. Even all of Chronos Heavy hitters combined would be hard pressed to match that level of power. -
They all have meanings... While Tonnin is actually a name but in Finnish it means Ton. You'll have to ask Allen what Albass means but he gets pretty much all his names from history/mythology references.
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Andre is presently in the process of re-writing the Nova stories to fix some details and enhance the story a bit but there may be a new story in the works.
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Imakarum didn't self heal his zoacrystal, he was placed inside Alkanphel's Bio-Tube on Silha Island for about 6 months. The 12 Zoacrystals were created from shards from Alkanphel's but that presumably took time and like growing any crystal, probably needed some help in the process. They are crystals after all and crystals only form under certain conditions. Though it is unknown if Alkanphel's can self heal but since his doesn't show any damage then presumeably it can, since it was believed a Zoalord could not survive without the Zoacrystal though it has been revealed that they can. However he probably just spent some time in his Bio-Tube. The Zoacrystal can help sustain a Zoalord's life, even if they get sliced in half, but only so long as there is still energy in the Zoacrystal. So once they exhaust that power then they die. But this may not hold true for all Zoalord's though the fate of Purg'stall is not entirely certain since it was hinted that his body was taken to a special location in the Manga. Zoalord's do not all have the same abilities but aside from Khan, who can absorb and use the mass of other zoanoids just like Aptom does, no other zoalord has shown the ability to rapidly regenerate. Guyote for example had to be bandaged up after he was Mega Smashed by G3, showing he needed medical attention and thus could not rapidly regenerate from injuries. Purg'stall had a hole blown through his chest when he presumably died but he was considered to be physically weak by the other Zoalords so that may have been unique to him but shows that none have Guyver like regeneration capabilities. The body crystals were originally thought to be zoacrystals but we have learned that only the head crystal are zoacrystals. The body crystals thus are part of the abilities of the specific Zoalord, for example for Guyote and Imakarum they are gravity points that provide the gravity energy for their abilities. The Creators ability to create zoaforms is greater than Chronos, who only backwards engineered zoaforming tech from creator technology. So as smart as Barcus is all his technology is second hand. That said however it is possible that there could have been test designs before Alkanphel but the Creators have been messing with DNA since life began on Earth so it would have taken them very few tries to get it right. The only thing they did not predict was the Guyver effect, which only turned up when you combined their Units with one of their creations on Earth.
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Guyver: The Miracle Cure?
zeo replied to Guyver0's topic in Guyver Science / General Science Lab Forum
Yes, the unit doesn't really distinguish from what is the host and what is not. The human body is full of other organisms, some are parasitic while others are symbiotic and others just bacteria like those that help us digest food. Each with their own DNA but in order for the host to function as normal and not be altered these organisms must remain in the host. Remember, prior to bonding to a human host the Unit has no idea how a human is put together or how we work. The Unit does prevent anything new though so from the point of bonding on the host has a super immune system thanks to the Unit but anything prior to bonding would not necessarily be removed. For example we know for a fact the unit does not remove scars or even cloths from the host. Not to mention the problem with diseases like HIV is because the body does not recognize it as foreign, in fact it infects the white blood cells to produce more of itself and that causes the immune system to attack itself which then renders the victim without an immune system and thus people die from all the diseases we are normally immune against. HIV itself doesn't kill us, AIDS is just us being attacked by everything that we are normally immune against. So there is no guaruntee that the Unit would remove such an infection, but the Unit will prevent it getting worse and allow the host to live with it. Really, the idea that the Unit is a cure all is pure speculation. -
New attack in manga used in the fanfiction?
zeo replied to guyverfanatic's topic in Warrior Guyver Fan-Fiction
Personally I think it's a mix, I believe that according to the body proportions of the Gigantic that it is 5x in strength but the power amps work much the same way as the momentum amps do on the normal Unit. (For those that don't know-Normal Guyvers can boost their momentum by up to 10x) Which means the gravity punch at least is 20x due to the power backing it, but the unenhanced physical strength would only be 5x, which is why I think when the Gigantic Power Amps were shattered that it took so long for GG1 to break through Purg'stall's Barrier with just brute force. -
New attack in manga used in the fanfiction?
zeo replied to guyverfanatic's topic in Warrior Guyver Fan-Fiction
Officially the only thing we know is... 100x Smashers, the gravity orbs in the chest plates help amplify the power as well as give the unit more gravitational energy. 5x large center head beam, with a 1x head beam orb on either side. 3 additional head hyper sensors 20x Power thanks to the power amps The swords can either extend to 3 meters in length or the tip can shoot out like a harpoon with the base length acting like a whip for long range attack. The Unit adds 2-3 additional sonic buster orbs that are normally hidden in openable face plates. Basically adding the ability to detune the sonics so it has greater range and power. Everything else is conjecture from what we have seen the Gigantic do. -
Sorry Aranor, since I plan to eventually write the story that will explain the origin of the Time Paradox I can't really go into detail until the story has been posted. I can tell you though that you seem to have a remarkably good grasp on the dynamics of a time paradox but you're making certain assumptions on the details that is distorting certain revelant aspects. Part of it being what happened to the original time line and who started the paradox.
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Well you could do it in phases, starting with consolidating the stories so you can get the timeline organized first, which would include whether or not you want to include certain invents, and then decide how much actually needs re-writing or not?
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Quantum Inverse Teleportation, basically an extension of quantum tunneling, which you might be more familiar with, and quantum entanglement effect in which conservation of energy is preserved by having equal quanta simply exchange places so the net difference is zero. It actually makes quantum teleportation easier as it takes little more energy than to set up the quantum field. So can be scaled to virtually any size scale that can be effected by the quantum field. Well there is also the fact that the crash clan ship is probably the only reason they aren't laying waste to the whole planet. Which Jason would also have to consider if he decides to take the clan ship out of the equation.
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Not for the CM, it's self correcting and mostly hard wired, so regardless the virus would have to first infect, then work its way up through the CM processing hierarchy till it effects enough of the CM to seriously effect its functions. Viruses can only work as fast as they can change something and CM's are not easily changed. Remember CM's have to be secure enough so host data like memories and DNA are replicated perfectly every single time. There can be no data corruption is a system like that so a virus would have to slowly work its way through all the failsafes before it can really do damage. You want fast then it would be easier to just fry the CM, but then you would be left with a rogue organism.