Poll: Most skilled Female Guyver Host

[McAvoy]

So the last poll was who was the most skilled Warrior Guyver host, and the winner was Faye. So now the new poll is who is the most skilled Female Host for a Guyver.

1. Supervisor Agent Valcura: She is the alternate female version of Guyver 2. Presumably she would had similar training as Guyver 2. Though in the OAV in her battle with her version's Guyver 1, was much closer battle than the Guyver 1 vs. Guyver 2 battle.

2. Shizu: She has the knowledge of Guyver 3 when he was a Guyver. She might have additional training on top of that.

3. Mai Tsu: Not a clue. She might have military training.

4. Shara Tsunda: Not a clue. She might have military training

5. Faye: She was the winner of last poll. Has Creator level combat training. However she is only around 18 years old.

6. Anika Zenechka: Only 16 years old. The unit may have Creator level training since she has a far greater bonding process than other units.

7. Fiona O'Conner: She have learned a few things or two from her husband.

8. Mei Lynn: She has military Special Ops training. She may also possess martial arts skills, though i'm not sure on what level.

9. Jenny O'Conner: She is one of the more experience female Guyvers.

10. Keilynn: she is one of the most skilled Guyver hosts out there. If she is equal or greater in skill than her brother, she is able to take on a Warrior Guyver for a few rounds before her limited stamina gives out.

[WarriorZoalord]

how come Angels not on the list? Do you not consider her a guyver?

[McAvoy]

Because I forgot.

Also when doing a poll, you can only have a maximum of ten choices. So there are about three or four other Female Guyvers missing on this poll. Though they are relative unknowns and some like Isis can ever hope to win the most skilled polls... maybe among 16 year olds or something.

[Armageddon]

I vote Starfire as well. As was said, she could take a WG for a bit until she tired out. Not to mention taking all those Grakkens on when she, Sai and Scott were beamed to that mothership and with very little prep time, the duo were running, jumping and dodging blasts, even running along the walls like it was a Matrix movie. The monk training the duo had helps her case as well.

[*zeo]

Interesting choice, Keilynn is an exceptional fighter that like her brother has trained most of her life to be the best she can be but as Starfire her power is only at its strongest when she is with her brother.

The Nova Units work off each other to the point that together they can indeed take on a Warrior Guyver, but apart their power is significantly less.

Sai was able to tap his unit's potential but at the cost of using up his energy reserves faster than normal, similarly Keilynn would not be able to keep it up for very long at all unless she was with her brother.

Training wise as well Sai and her were trained to work as a team. Also despite their high level of training and skill neither of them are Masters!

This was effectively demonstrated in "Kismet Revisted", as the battle with the Bio-Titans, just before XT showed up. Keilynn was nearly killed when each had to fight on their own in what was effectively a fair fight.

So by herself she wouldn't be as effective and she is also only 18 years old.

Btw, the running along the walls is something all Guyver are capable of.

But a point of consideration that you may be missing is that Keilynn wasn't trained to be a killer, only a warrior. Not to mention her peaceful nature can hold her back. Sai on the other hand has more of a temper and will to fight, while Keilynn relies on her skills and training more.

Normally not a problem as cool heads can prevail in a fight but the Guyver is effected by the host's Will Power, so Keilynn's will to fight becomes a deciding factor that has to be equated into any comparison.

Though to be fair, and because each character has widely different levels of power from each other as Guyvers, we should consider how they would fair without their units. . .

I agree Angel would have been an interesting choice but these things happen and we work with what we got. Though an interesting point about Angel is her combat skills were programmed into her Unit by the Creators. So basically she would have similar skill sets as Faye, aside from the obvious difference in their Armored power levels.

Faye also would have the least qualms about killing from any other female character aside from Syn, who also in not on the list but she's not a Guyver.

[WarriorZoalord]

another thing Zeo, is that angel would have the skills that could have been developed since their leaving earth after the time war. Thus she could potentially be more deadly combat wise than Faye.

[Spartan Warlord]

i voted starfire as i feel without the unit she has alot of fightin potential...yes she may be less willing to kill others but she is still rather skilled...fiona i would say would be one of the less qualified as she was just a normal human before bonding with the unit and apart from the basics that jason taught her she doesnt have any type of combat skills...oh just a fort faye has got creator level ccombat training so its safe to assume other people of her timeline would also have that so over the hundreds of thousands its been watered down and broken off into different martial arts styles...i no that may seem obviously but just thought id say...

[Sully]

Faye is. When it comes down to it, strip away the unit and in a fight for survival she'd win against the others.

[Spartan Warlord]

has faye been specificly trained by the creators?...or is it just the fact that she lived back then?...because if she hasnt been specificly trained i dont see how she can be the best without the unit...theres a big difference between hunting a animal and fighting a person whose trained everyday to hone their martial arts skills...or someone with black ops training on top of her martial arts skills

[Thunder Demon1472669266]

Definitely Faye. No question. C'mon, she's had a lot more experience in the older ways and newer ways. Besides, her original time was waay back when, and you had to fight tooth and nail for an inch. Anyone, regardless of age and experience would become battle hardened after years like that.

It's not that the others aren't skilled, it's just I really don't think most of them have a good drive to fight. Those that do, well, you heard read who I picked. It's simple.

[guyverfanatic]

I thought I posted here earlier.

Anyway... hands down it would be Faye. Being taught to fight by the Creators themselves, Faye can whip all sorts of ass!

[Spartan Warlord]

i agree with some of what you say but at the same time i cant gree with the fact thaat just because shes primal shes the more skilled...theres a big difference between killing and animal and person...hunting animals is alot different than going hand to hand with someone especially whose trained for years specificly to do just that...ok she may have had to fight off a few cavemen on heat...im not denyin that she isnt a skilled fighter...ok lets put it this way...who would win faye or a champion ufc fighter...i no who id chose and id say it was clear why

[Aranor]

Spartan Warlord, that is what I have been trying to get at. Do we know if Faye had training or did she just live back then. If she had training then yes she is the most formidable. If there is no training then she is just viscious.

Some would say that is enough to give her the edge but look at vikings. They were extremely viscious but their end was met when they were out thought. (Battle of harold the 3rd I believe it was)

Should she have training behind her then yeah, she's got my vote.

[*zeo]

Trained, definitely trained...

It'll be a big mistake to underestimate Faye, in fact it would most defintely be your last if you underestimated her.

Especially since only Jason could call her off and he's not always around

Really, don't let her table manners fool you, she'll go from savage to you won't even know what hit you femme fatale in a blink of an eye.

Consider for example, savage won't work when you're fighting something way more powerful than yourself... Like say a Zoanoid versus a human.

Remember that T-Rex they sent after Guyver Zero was basically a Creator version of a Hyper Zoanoid, which probably means it was more powerful than a real T-Rex would have been.

Even more modern human cultures, have trials of adulthood that involve killing some wild animal like a lion or something with nothing but your wits and ingenuity.

Add the fact Faye generation was near the end of the Warrior Project meant they would have been heavily prepping them for their future roll as the Soldier race of the Creators.

Like Kurt Russel's character in the sci-fi film "Soldier", the Creators would have trained Faye practically from birth to be the ultimate soldier/warrior.

Never mind her personal physical conditioning would be better than an olympic athlete, there really isn't a single person on that list that could keep up with her physically without their unit.

Like how Connan looked as he grew up, a life time of physical conditioning and endless battles would make Faye almost superhuman by modern human standards.

The closest person on the list to matching that would be Fiona, and only because the Warrior Unit puts its host into peak condition.

And just like Romans, learning the art of war would have been standard curriculum and Faye, having to fend for herself, would have excelled in her studies.

Most of all don't forget why the Creators chose humans to be their soldier race, the one thing that makes us stand apart from all other life on this planet is our intelligence.

They even made Alkanphel their mental equal so he could properly lead his army.

And just between you and me Faye was destined to be more than just a foot soldier if destiny hadn't thrown Jason into her proverbial lap.

Remember Zeugma was just a human like Faye before the Creators turned her into a Zoalord, so she was smart to begin with.

[WarriorZoalord]

so your saying if the GZ event didn't happen, faye would likely have become a creator zoalord?

[W'Kar]

Yep.

Or possibly one of the first Kavzar.

Or maybe even something else.

[WarriorZoalord]

heh, then I'd say aside from Angel, Faye would be the most deadly out of those listed >>

[McAvoy]

Yes.

However Angel has programmed training within the unit. Which means she may have the knowledge but not the experience. Though she might have the edge since she may have more modern Creator fighting skills.

[*zeo]

There is also the factor that she isn't entirely human to also go in her favor but her knowledge is programmed and thus mechanical.

Faye, would react without hesitation and can readily adapt to situations she was not expecting. So she may still have an edge as far as fighting is concerned.

And more modern combat training doesn't mean she would be better in any case. Many modern combat training is derived from ancient martial arts and limited to practicality of training people in a short period of time versus the life time most martial artists take to perfect their skills.

But even if the knowledge was infused, like Matrix Neo saying "I know kung-fu"

No one form of combat is really superior to another, they are just done differently and it is left to the better fighter as to who would win.

[McAvoy]

I agree. All types of fighting styles have strengths and weaknesses. Take Boxing and UFC for example. Pit them in a Boxing Ring with boxing rules and chances are the Boxer will win in that fight. Flip it around, put them in a UFC cgaed ring with UFC rules and the Boxer will lose.

Most martial arts would take too long for any military to use. Mainly they use basic fighting techniques like choke holds and wrestling moves. (It is said the first minute is boxing and then rest is wrestling). Then they go from there and teach more advanced moves. One good example off of the top of my head for good special ops training Jason Bourne from the Bourne Novels/Movies.

As far as Faye is concerned, even if she was trained from birth there is only so much you can teach a person within 18 years and become an expert in it. She probably has a mixture of those skills mixed with other things.

[WarriorZoalord]

out of the unit, out of all female hosts, including those not on the list, angel could easily win if she 'cheated' (i know its legit, but just saying that it would be an unfair advanatage) if she used her zappy powers. >>

[Thunder Demon1472669266]

And more modern combat training doesn't mean she would be better in any case. Many modern combat training is derived from ancient martial arts and limited to practicality of training people in a short period of time versus the life time most martial artists take to perfect their skills.

I agree. All types of fighting styles have strengths and weaknesses. Take Boxing and UFC for example. Pit them in a Boxing Ring with boxing rules and chances are the Boxer will win in that fight. Flip it around, put them in a UFC cgaed ring with UFC rules and the Boxer will lose.

I agree, sometimes, even combining the two doesn't exactly work, especially if the two styles conflict with each other. At any rate, while the martial arts do take a while to reach the first dan, it does not mean it can't be done in a relatively quick pace. I have heard of people taking less than five years, and people who have taken twenty years to reach the first dan. That's not to say that the learning styles of each person aren't different, or that their learning paces weren't different, but it also indicates how dedicated they were as well. (A dan is a black belt level in the martial arts) So, a dedicated person could in fact reach the first dan if they started at the beginning of high school, by the time they finished their first degree in college.

[exscaped_pyscho]

When talking about Faye's superior trainging, everyone should keep in mind, Faye isn't actually 18 years old. she was grown in a bio tube by the creator's to some undisclosed age and then released. Which means she hasn't been trained since she could walk, only since she was 'birthed' from the bio tube. However I find it highly probable she recieved some conscious and sub-conscious trainging while being grown by the creators. If my theory is indead the the case she could have recieved much more training than her age would normally allow. Particulary if the combat training was done in the style of the 'Matrix' movies both on the subconscious and conscious levels. It would allow her to not only react instictively but consciously as well, allowing for a far more effective method of inflicting maximum damage in the minumum amount of time. In essence Faye was 'programmed' to be a killing machine long before she was actually born. That is if my theory on the subject is accurate.

Likewise the alterations made to Angel would be superior to Faye's, do to the physical alterations made to Angel and her superior unit capabilities. Armored or unarmored if Faye and Angel were to throw down it would only be a matter of time before Faye was defeated. Angel is far superior to Faye in my opinion. And yet I am a bigger fan of Faye do the legnth of time I have 'known' her in comparision to Angel which I have recently met, via her respected story line. Had Angel been an option in my voting, I would have selected her. Even though I would be hoping for Faye to win if the two had actually fought each other.

[McAvoy]

I don't remember that she was grown in a bio tube. As far as I know she was grown the natural way within her tribe. Then the elders and adults trained her when she was old enough to fight. The training was probably passed down through time from the first humans who created that tribe who was indeed themselves were born from a bio tube. On top of that even though she is only 18 years old which is a modern conception that 18 years old is relatively young, being 18 back then would be the equivilant of being 30 years old now.

Angel is probably a superior host as far as her physical condition is concerned. I don't think she is like Jason or a zoalord where they have power even while in human form, but she is probably in peak physical condition. On top of that she has her natural electromagnetic abilities. Faye as a Warrior Guyver would also possess the power of the HSL. So it could go either way. Armored, the fight would definitely go to Angel, since she is almost four times more powerful than Faye, and even with Faye in Bio Energy Doubler mode, Angel is still more powerful.

[exscaped_pyscho]

If my memory serves me right she stated this in her Character story. Although I may be mistaken. Angel however is capable of performing bio elictical attacks while in human form. I'm speaking of her assault on the soldier she attacked when he attempted to search her bag that contained the Crimson Aceare unit. I believe this event was in the first story of Allen's petaining to Angel.