Spartan Warlord Posted August 4, 2007 Posted August 4, 2007 well it could go either way...XT my consider W'Kar to dangerous and try to kill him...OR he could tell him what could happen leaving out a few details and help in his Ascention Quote
Frost Posted August 5, 2007 Posted August 5, 2007 If XT tells W'kar then he will go beserk and will want to be transported to his home universe which is not currently possible hence he will go all out to kill Dreadnought and things will get complicated.. Furthermore W'kar can scan almost all units.. so if XT even gives him a hint of Anubis he will read his mind unless XT can block that.. plus why has'nt he gone and search for Casandara in this universe? maybe he prefers Jenny Quote
Spartan Warlord Posted August 5, 2007 Posted August 5, 2007 Theres no way XT would allow W'Kar to probe his mind look what happend in the GWOTG...XT showed W'Kar a memory of him being atomised and he had to back off... Quote
Juggernought Posted August 5, 2007 Posted August 5, 2007 It may be a one of the possible catalyst for furthering his evolution, or he could see Anubis as his ultimate opponent, the ultimate battle. No one gets to battle oneself every day you know. Quote
exscaped_pyscho Posted August 6, 2007 Posted August 6, 2007 Frost mentioned that W'kar isn't capable of going to Anubis's Universe. But I don't think that is the case at all. Anubis was waiting for Zagam, so he could lead The Order to other universes. If Zagam can open the door, why couldn't a matrix like the one W'kar has do the same? I think the real reason W'kar hasn't been able to return is because of the Kregen. It's my theory that they are stopping him from returning until he is powerful enough to oppose Anubis. As for XT and the Matrix, the Matrix was just acting in Jason's best interest. XT's plasmoid based physioligy would damage the matrix and thusly damage Jason. The real qeustion is could the matrix adapt to the multi demensional energy contained in XT if it was allowed to study him over a period of time? The Matrix can adapt to new situations and threats given time. Why couldn't it find another way of helping XT other than a Quantum energy field? Just providing XT's AI with knowledge of the Warrior Guyver Tech would increase his abilities far beyond his current level, or even the level he was at when he first arrived. So now the question is: Is XT going to get anywhere near a Matrix that isn't bonded to a unit yet far enough away that he doesn't become a threat to the Matrix itself? Quote
*zeo Posted August 6, 2007 Posted August 6, 2007 XT plasmoid energy would not have damaged the Matrix, Jason was never in any danger. Sorry but I think you're confusing XT with the W'Kar element, which is the only thing the Matrix has problems with. Quote
Shenzon Posted August 6, 2007 Posted August 6, 2007 So what would make the Matrix retailiate against XT without Dreadnought's direct action? As Dreadnought himself saw XT as no direct threat he couldn't handle without summoning his abilities. He was only concerned about his sister's safety. Quote
*zeo Posted August 6, 2007 Posted August 6, 2007 It didn't retaliate, it attacked the moment it sensed what XT was. If Jason hadn't resisted what the Matrix was doing and if the contact with the Matrix hadn't been broken as quickly as it was then the Matrix would have destroyed XT. It all has to do with one of the Matrix's Prime Directives. Quote
WarriorZoalord Posted August 6, 2007 Posted August 6, 2007 Remember, XT Is of the same race, or a close enough race, to XT9 of the WG world. thus if the WG2 world was almost the same as the WG one, the Plasmoid race XT guyvers were decreed to be destroyed on sight by the creators. Thus it thought XT was one of those so it decided to try and take him out, but Dreadnought stopped it. Quote
OnyxPhoenix Posted August 6, 2007 Posted August 6, 2007 zeo 1234 wrote: It all has to do with one of the Matrix's Prime Directives. Prime Directives? Ok, Star Trek references aside, does anybody happen to know what these directives are, or have a hint if the head honchos haven't revealed them yet? Love to know, might even give even more insight into how the Matrix in Dreadnought's CM augments him & complements what he can do. Any thoughts? Quote
Aranor Posted August 6, 2007 Posted August 6, 2007 Prime Directives: 1: Serve the public trust. 2: Protect the innocent. 3: Uphold the law. 4: Any attempt to arrest a senior officer of OCP results in shutdown. 5: Destroy all plasmoid species. Quote
Frost Posted August 7, 2007 Posted August 7, 2007 The Plasmoid race was deemed the enemy of the Advents and this fact is mentioned in the Matrix's database which is the reason it attacked..inshort all those things which the Advents considered a threat are stored within the Matrix database and they will get zapped by the Matrix.. Maybe next time Jason could mentally instruct the Matrix about XT being an ally than it wont zap him.. Quote
Spartan Warlord Posted August 7, 2007 Posted August 7, 2007 jason may even be able to reprogram the "prime directives" of the matrix to better serve him but that only if he knew he could...jason could do some much with the matrix if thought its only a fragment if only he had the knowledge to right now the only thing stopping him from increase his power is his lack of knowledge... Quote
Juggernought Posted August 7, 2007 Posted August 7, 2007 No, he can increase his power anytime he wants. Its his desire to remain "human" that prevents him from reaching a higher level. Jason wouldn't know to reprogram the matrix's prime directives if he doesn't know they are there, the most he'd do is prevent the matrix from harming XT next time. Quote
OnyxPhoenix Posted August 7, 2007 Posted August 7, 2007 Aranor wrote: Prime Directives: 1: Serve the public trust. 2: Protect the innocent. 3: Uphold the law. 4: Any attempt to arrest a senior officer of OCP results in shutdown. 5: Destroy all plasmoid species. DOH! Now see here, Star Trek and RoboCop jokes aside . . . Thanks for the laugh, Aranor. Should've remembered myself that XT & the Creators are not on the best of terms. Still, to think that the Matrix is programmed to destroy his kind on sight: OUCH. I'm with Juggernought, too, though. Hopefully, Jason can tone the Matrix down a little bit so that it will treat XT a little better next time. Hey, w/ an ally like XT around, both Chronos and the Grakken are in deep. Quote
Spartan Warlord Posted August 7, 2007 Posted August 7, 2007 No, he can increase his power anytime he wants. Its his desire to remain "human" that prevents him from reaching a higher level. Jason wouldn't know to reprogram the matrix's prime directives if he doesn't know they are there, the most he'd do is prevent the matrix from harming XT next time. Is he aware that his matrix could Zoaform him? does the matrix give him that sort of information...like when hes battling it throws all sorts of info at him but what about stuff like enhancing himself and even others? Quote
Kamui de' Tempest Posted August 7, 2007 Posted August 7, 2007 I don't think he even wants to be aware of its capabilities. Cause with knowledge comes temptation. Quote
Aranor Posted August 7, 2007 Posted August 7, 2007 As advanced as the matrix is I would almost think it should not allow him to alter is or the info it gives him without more knowledge of what it is doing thus removing the ability for the host to damage itself/unit/matrix. Though the matrix is an AI I am sure it has some sort of self destruct inhibiting program. Especially to keep a host from doing something it shouldn't. Quote
Juggernought Posted August 7, 2007 Posted August 7, 2007 Is he aware that his matrix could Zoaform him? He was able to heal zoaforms as well as remove all zoanoid dna from his sister. If he has the capability of doing that i'm sure he would have figured out by now that he is able to initiate the process. The matrix has changed him and as far as he is concerned thats as far as he'd go, he wants to remain as human as possible. Quote
exscaped_pyscho Posted August 8, 2007 Posted August 8, 2007 I've always wondered why Jason doesn't learn from the Matrix? It contains all the scientific information the Creators had before it came to WG's universe. Why not stop and learn from the Matrix? If I were him I would feel compeled to learn everything I can about everything the Matrix knows. I mean come on, think of all the good Jason could achieve if he where to imbrase the knowledge of the Matrix. Cure any dissease, End world hunger, hell even create a virus to breakdown Zoaform DNA. It can do virtually anything and by scientific means not magical! Why not use technoligy against Chronos? They've been using it against humans for hundreds of years now! Jason could handle the knowledge (due to the Matrix enhancments to his DNA as well as his mind), Why wouldn't he? Quote
Juggernought Posted August 8, 2007 Posted August 8, 2007 The fate of the world is at hand and you're busy worrying about trivial diseases like cancer n such? In my opinion jason is much more concerned about how earth is going to survive this one. And currently his main focus for his matrix is battle, little time for other things until the opportunity presents itself. Quote
Kamui de' Tempest Posted August 8, 2007 Posted August 8, 2007 true, but couldn't it just do a data crap in his mind and offload all the info at once or something? Quote
Juggernought Posted August 8, 2007 Posted August 8, 2007 For what purpose? Jason doesn't need or want the information. Quote
Kamui de' Tempest Posted August 8, 2007 Posted August 8, 2007 A wise man once said......"Scientia est potentia - Knowledge is power" Quote
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