Guyver Zoanoids

[Archaos]

Just an observation, but are Chronos not starting to get a bit top heavy with warriors they cannot totally control. I mean there are now about four very high powered Guyver Zoanoids that if they wanted could defect.

1. Guyver Powered Zerebubuse. Power 40x

2. Warrior Guyver Vamore. Power 20x

3. Warrior Guyver Type 2 Mark II Thancrus. Unknown

4. Nova Guyver Overlord. Power Unknown

5. Unknown Guyver Zoanoid(Possibly Darzerb). Power Unknown

If any one of those five defected they could cause Chronos major problems.

Also are Chronos getting all of these Guyver Zoanoids to balance up the scales with all the anti Chronos groups ?, I think if you add up all of the warriors on each side over the level of 10x Chronos are definitely the strongest and I haven’t even mentioned Warrior Alkanphel yet who could be stronger still.

[McAvoy]

Actually it's more like:

1. Guyver Powered Zerebubuse, 40x

2. Warrior Guyver Vamore, 10x

3. Guyver Darzerb?: Possibly 40x also

4. Guyver Zoanoid

But here's the problem, Chronos already has Guyvers in their ranks. Shaodw Guyver, Guyver 2, Female Guyver 2, and Nova Flare.

Regardless of how powerful they are, they're all Guyvers cannot be controlled. As in controlled that they have a free will now. However as is the cases with the above Guyvers they're all loyal to Chronos. Maybe later on if the situation warrents it, they might rebel, but they enjoy a substantial ranking within Chronos.

[Archaos]

I thought Warrior Guyver Vamore was more like.

Vamore 5 men x Warrior Guyver 400 men = Warrior Guyver Vamore 2000 men or 20x a guyver.

[*zeo]

You have to remember three things...

1) A Vamore is designed for fire power and not strength.

2) A HSL power system uses the host to regulate the Bio-Boost so the resulting power level is entirely dependant on what the host body can handle.

3) A Guyver Unit enhances the characteristics of a host and a Vamore is a firepower type.

So don't assume a straight multiplication of abilities.

Vamore's weren't designed for physical strength, they were designed for firepower and the WG Vamore datafile reflects that fact.

[Matt Bellamy]

One of the things to note about current Chronos soldiers, and how Chronos isn't too worried about the Guyvers on their side.

Despite the fact that their telepathy no longer works on them, actual Chronos soldiers in our fic also have mental conditioning that make them loyal to Chronos on their own. So WG Vamore is loyal to Chronos, not because of beign controlled by Telepathy, but because it is entered into his genetic code that he is part of Chronos.

This is something a Guyver cannot "fix", since it's not an external source, but something the Zoanoids were "born" with.

It's a handy thing to have, esepcially in our fic when their are so many units floating around.

[McAvoy]

I thought Warrior Guyver Vamore was more like.

Vamore 5 men x Warrior Guyver 400 men = Warrior Guyver Vamore 2000 men or 20x a guyver.

In Part 5 where he fights Dreadnought, he actually matched Guardian's normal max of 10x. He then fires his Hyper Smashers at her where she barely survives despite her Bio Doubler enhanced mega smashers.

It's been said before that those same hyper smashers can actually damaged Dreadnought if not directly kill him.

[Shenzon]

Vamore's weren't designed for physical strength, they were designed for firepower and the WG Vamore datafile reflects that fact.

Maybe its just me, but where is the WG Vamore datafile located at? Is it under Chronos?

[W'Kar]

I don't believe it was ever done actually. Or at least posted.

PM zeo, enough complaints and he may start working on them

[Shenzon]

Oh okay, for a second there, I thought it was just me..

[guyverfanatic]

I don't believe it was ever done actually. Or at least posted.

PM zeo, enough complaints and he may start working on them

Lol. Well hopefully we will see it soon.

[Juggernought]

Plus, Chronos give their guyvers something to fight for. If they were to defect do you know how long it would take for them to become truely accepted by the ACTF? Eventually most of them would either go rogue or return to Chronos.

[TheGuyversWill]

One of the things to note about current Chronos soldiers, and how Chronos isn't too worried about the Guyvers on their side.

Despite the fact that their telepathy no longer works on them, actual Chronos soldiers in our fic also have mental conditioning that make them loyal to Chronos on their own. So WG Vamore is loyal to Chronos, not because of beign controlled by Telepathy, but because it is entered into his genetic code that he is part of Chronos.

This is something a Guyver cannot "fix", since it's not an external source, but something the Zoanoids were "born" with.

It's a handy thing to have, esepcially in our fic when their are so many units floating around.

What he said, I still like the idea of having a rogue hyper-zoanoid guyver.

Or one that would fight for the side of the actf.

To become a hyper you have to prove yourself to chronos beyond a doubt, but now, with the whole fact that they are getting killed off like flies, you'd think the testing phase would be a little less harsh and one or two not so loyal hypers might make it through the process.

Fight against genetics!!!

[*zeo]

I don't believe it was ever done actually. Or at least posted.

PM zeo, enough complaints and he may start working on them

What are you guys talking about, the WG Vamore DF is already up in the Chronos DF section?

http://warriorguyver.com/wgfanfic/dataf ... vamore.htm

[Shenzon]

I don't believe it was ever done actually. Or at least posted.

PM zeo, enough complaints and he may start working on them

What are you guys talking about, the WG Vamore DF is already up in the Chronos DF section?

http://warriorguyver.com/wgfanfic/dataf ... vamore.htm

Where?? I don't see it..

[Shenzon]

Hahaha... smooth...there it is. Thanks!!

He's far more powerful than I even thought! But for some reason, its not in the Chronos DF section..I can only get to it through the link here..

[McAvoy]

He seems to be more of near straight 2.5x increase over a Warrior Guyver. I would have thought his shields would be in the 8x to 10x class because of the fact that he would have greater bio energy reserves to spare. Hell I thought there would be a mutation allowing the Hyper Smasher Cannons to be used in other areas or something.

[*zeo]

Remember how a Vamore is created, the laser pods are developed seperately and then later implanted in the final phases of the zoaforming process.

Most of Vamore's biology is basically just to handle the toxins generated by the laser and the chemical productions of the bio-lumnious fuel for the laser pods.

So the laser themselves are a compartmentalized part of the Vamore. And being it's one and only weapon it is the only thing that got mutated by the unit bonding.

As for shielding, as can be noted by the strength, due to the rather weak body type of the Vamore we only gave it a 2.5 increase over norm WG stats, which is also because stats get harder to increase the higher they get in WG. But that still makes it a 10x character with a 20x fire-power.

[McAvoy]

It would be interesting in how the other Warrior Guyvers would handly WGV. The best person of course would be Guardian or Zues. I would like to see how well Aceaer Warrior Guyver 2 would handle it since besides the Hyper Smasher Cannons, they're about the same level.

[Shenzon]

It would be interesting in how the other Warrior Guyvers would handly WGV. The best person of course would be Guardian or Zues. I would like to see how well Aceaer Warrior Guyver 2 would handle it since besides the Hyper Smasher Cannons, they're about the same level.

Yeah, I would really love to see Zeus handle Warrior Guyver Vamore. Especially with his tactiful thinking. He kind of reminds me of Vegetta from DBZ. Always thinking ahead, always planning, always looking for an edge, when most just deal with the moment.

I hope I spelled tactiful right....

[Spartan Warlord]

yeh agree'd...i think the best way to handle WG Vamore would CQC *close quaters Combat*...and not give him the chance to use his hyper smasher pods

[McAvoy]

It would be interesting in how the other Warrior Guyvers would handly WGV. The best person of course would be Guardian or Zues. I would like to see how well Aceaer Warrior Guyver 2 would handle it since besides the Hyper Smasher Cannons, they're about the same level.

Yeah, I would really love to see Zeus handle Warrior Guyver Vamore. Especially with his tactiful thinking. He kind of reminds me of Vegetta from DBZ. Always thinking ahead, always planning, always looking for an edge, when most just deal with the moment.

I hope I spelled tactiful right....

I agree. I always had the idea in my head even in the manga or new anime. Sho is Goku and Agito is Vegeta.

Though the bieg question is Zeus really dead or just MIA.

[Spartan Warlord]

*Sho is Goku and Agito is Vegeta*

id disagree with Sho as Goku...i mean as peaceful goku is theres nuttem better than a good fight in his eyes...where as Sho's not really a fighter

plus Agito wud kick Sho's ass...and Goku wud beat the crap out of Vegeta

[Shenzon]

*Sho is Goku and Agito is Vegeta*

id disagree with Sho as Goku...i mean as peaceful goku is theres nuttem better than a good fight in his eyes...where as Sho's not really a fighter

plus Agito wud kick Sho's ass...and Goku wud beat the crap out of Vegeta

I honestly don't know if Goku could beat Vegetta, if they were completely even to where Goku had no power advantage as he always has. In the Majin Buu Saga, even Goku said they were dead even in fighting skills. The only advantage he had was SSJ 3. I honestly don't think Goku could win. If you notice, the series never let you find out the truth on that. Vegetta's pride would not let him loose. He would fight Goku to his last drop of strength and still beyond his limits.

[Spartan Warlord]

vegeta was always one step behind goku especially in dbgt goku....pride is no replacement 4 power

[Shenzon]

vegeta was always one step behind goku especially in dbgt goku....pride is no replacement 4 power

True, but pride is the drive for more power for some people. Vegetta being one. When he faced off against Goku as Majin Vegetta, even Goku said Vegetta must have been training twice as hard as he was in the Netherworld.