guyver anatomy

[*guyverfan]

i've been wondering for a while what these 2 red little orbs are at the base of guyver's head spike are?

guyver3 is the only guyver that doesn't have them. even guyver0 has them.

 

at first i thought they were antennea so they could communicate telepathically with one another, but it's not as the lumps on their backs are used for communication and for calling the unit through the boost dimension.

i've checked through some of the material and data files that i have and nothing makes any reference to them.

anyone have any idea what they are and if they serve any purpose?

 

could takaya sensei be waiting to surprise everyone with a hidden ability the guyvers have and yet their hosts are unaware since none have shown to use it as yet?

anyone have any ideas? or know what they are and used for?

 

in out of control, the guyvers had the ability to teleport but so far that hasn't been introduced in the manga, could it be an option later on in the series?

[Guyver Four]

People have speculated from around the late 1990s and early 2000s that the red orbs were used merely as decoration.  However, according to a manga series review entitled, An Introduction to Takaya Yoshiki's Manga - Bio-Booster Armor Guyver, by Patricia A. Munson-Siter, she described these orbs as:

 

Viewing orbs: The Guyver armor has two viewing orbs along the top of the head which enable the host to see in all directions.  There are two smaller orbs nestled at the base of the head's fin which are capable of sensing movement and life through adjacent walls, ceilings, and so on to a distance of about 40 meters, depending on the density of the material the orbs are looking through.

 

The Manga Series Review can be found on the Guyver Solution Web site.

Edited May 11, 2014 by Guyver Four

[*Jess♥]

Thanks guyverfour, that is pretty interesting but I do think we should take what Patricia A. Munson-Siter says with a grain of salt.

 

In the Manga, these originally appeared as metal structures like cylinders with indentations.

Over time, Takaya sensei altered their appearance to be more orb like and they are clearly of a red hue. This was intentional. They were not made to be a silver hue like the guyver's other orbs, they are red. This is significant although we have yet to understand why.

thinking as i type here as is normally the case.

If we look at all the guyvers orbs, we see that the CM is silver, the gravity control sphere is silver, the multi direction sensory globes are silver, the vibration globe is silver.
There is one other orb that is a different colour, the head beam. The head beam has the function of dealing with electromagnetic energy I believe. it is coloured because visible light is coloured to our eyes. a laser emitter is coloured to us. using this line of reasoning, looking at these orbs and seeing a colour, it suggests they operate with a form of energy that is within the visible light spectrum.

 

let's think .... the headbeam fires infrared beam out using surplus heat from within the guyver. why is it green? green is complimentary colour to red. when we look at it, no red light is being released from it. so we could say it absorbs light in the red frequency and likely infrared. I guess it uses this as a energy build up mechanism. then perhaps at some point, after the energy is built up, the colour changes and the energy is released?

it's a possibility anyway.

 

so looking at those red orbs. they release red light alone but retain frequencies of the blue and green parts of the spectrum. maybe these orbs store up and release UV light for some reason. what applications could there be for that kind of thing... or perhaps these orbs are not intended to store up energy? maybe they are a controlled release mechanism for heat that is beyond the guyvers capacity to deal with.

 

well I'm a bit stuck here. Maybe I'll come up with some more ideas later.

[alkanfel009]

I've always had the suspicion that if these orbs are there are for 

 

1 as a speculated before teleportation, 

 

2 energy field, covering the body a barrier that allows reseitir more ostiles environments to either radiation, heat, or cold 

 

3, ace told me much, if not him, importance, a kind of personal shield body, energy field, similar to the skin, 

 

 

to, give importance to one of these three would be the first,

[*guyverfan]

People have speculated from around the late 1990s and early 2000s that the red orbs were used merely as decoration. However, according to a manga series review entitled, An Introduction to Takaya Yoshiki's Manga - Bio-Booster Armor Guyver, by Patricia A. Munson-Siter, she described these orbs as:

Viewing orbs: The Guyver armor has two viewing orbs along the top of the head which enable the host to see in all directions. There are two smaller orbs nestled at the base of the head's fin which are capable of sensing movement and life through adjacent walls, ceilings, and so on to a distance of about 40 meters, depending on the density of the material the orbs are looking through.

The Manga Series Review can be found on the Guyver Solution Web site.

thanks G4, i thought this aswell at first but ruled it out as its been shown in the manga and anime and also there was written material i saw somewhere that the chrome sensory orbs on either side of the head are used for viewing like this, they also pickup space/air/armosphere distortions. this is how guyvers are capable of pinpointing an invisible/cloaked object.

 

i also ruled out the use of energy fields and forms of one, as the gravity orb at the waist is the main source of producing a shield as its capable to expand its energy around its' host.

[*V Guyver]

Motion detection still seems plausible. If it's high powered Free electron laser, then it would make sense that is has a range of frequencies that can detect movement and certain chemicals. It might sound redundant to have a second sensor type. But redundancy is an incredible asset for most species, especially humans who have 6 sensor types built in to us in the form of balance, sight, hearing, taste,feeling, smelling. 

[*guyverfan]

actually, i like both your ideas, yuki and vguyver.

 

as those red orbs do have that soft membrane look to them, much like the megasmasher, perhaps they provide the headbeam with the neccesary infrared heat energy by collecting and accellerating atmospheric particules.

 

and as vguyver has suggested, they also could possibly sense/analyse gas and chemical substances.

[Larz Zahn]

Quick question, when did Guyver one teleport in out of control? and Sho has teleported in the manga and 2005 series but only once.... He was in the gigantic cocoon and responded Mizuki's scream.

[*Jess♥]

in out of control, guyver 3 seemingly teleported in at the end. it could have been camera shorthand for really fast movement though.

 

I don't believe the red orbs collect particles. if they 'collect' anything, it could be absorption of ambient electromagnetic energy.

that is plausible. I don't feel it is likely though. I get the impression they have a different function from the headbeam.

I only compared them because they are the only orbs on Guyver that are coloured.

 

another factor I had neglected. Guyver 3 does not have them.

 

This is interesting because I had come across something in my research. UV light is linked with feelings of well-being in people. something to do with vitamin D synthesis I think.  Guyver 3 is the darkest and nastiest guyver and is the least likely to want to be comforting to those around him.

It sounds odd, but the red orbs could be the result of compassion. the part of a human being that wants to protect and make people feel safe.

it is interesting because the red orbs are in the place on the head where the crown chakra would be, the connection to a higher power. this connection to a higher power is linked to feelings of safety and trust. so as odd as it may seem, the red orbs could be a system to help loved ones to feel safe.

[*Chernaudi]

Only problem with that is that Guyver II also had them, and we know that Lisker by and large was a prick.  So why would he have those things if he wasn't compassionate?

 

Could it instead be defensive vs offensive?  Sho and Lisker transformed into their Guyvers on accident.  Agito activated his Guyver on purpose.  But then again, that leaves Val, as female Guyver II has them, and it seems that she merged with her Guyver on purpose, or maybe she's taking advantage of a "happy accident".

[*YoungGuyver]

I always assumed the red orbs were a part of the head beam, and the Agito's were merely armored.  My guess is that the red orbs gather and store the heat energy, and the green orb fires it.  The head beam is after all a heat based laser, running off the Guyver's body heat (If I remember the data files correctly).  Let us not forget the head beam arrangement of the Gigantic

[*Jess♥]

Only problem with that is that Guyver II also had them, and we know that Lisker by and large was a prick.  So why would he have those things if he wasn't compassionate?

 

Could it instead be defensive vs offensive?  Sho and Lisker transformed into their Guyvers on accident.  Agito activated his Guyver on purpose.  But then again, that leaves Val, as female Guyver II has them, and it seems that she merged with her Guyver on purpose, or maybe she's taking advantage of a "happy accident".

I think Lisker and Agito is an unfair comparison.

Lisker may have been a hard-ass but Agito is freaking ruthless.

Agito and Lisker had a similar upbringing, but they were also sort of opposites.

Agito was an asset, he was a prize from his ruined family. Lisker was a valued member of his family. it may not have been all happy, but he is far from the twisted character that Agito is.

The truth is, we don't know much about the other aspects of Liskers life. but we know Agito had nobody except the uncle that cause his family's ruin.

Yes, he had Shizu, but he was not brought up around Shizu as far as we know. Of course we know that both Lisker and Valkyria had their families. apart from being elites and pushed hard to do well in school etc, they probably had a rather pleasant upbringing.

[alkanfel009]

well this is a bit rushed, but I think as we've seen, every part of the guyver, has had, a utility, that is, nowhere is an ornament, each piesa of the body has a function, so I still think if it is part of a teleportation system may haver been magnified if they remember the guyver, gigantic, has 2 of these areas on the head, so this is what allowed it, get as Trapido of the Dead Sea, has japan 

 

hademas guyver to remember that enters a deactivated dimencion pocket, from one plane to another, these areas could be as you do this,

[Super Existence]

Gigantic teleports through the cocoon and still has these red orbs, Gigantic also uses the shield from the energy amps and still has these orbs so chances are they serve neither of those functions.

I agree they function more or a purpose than just collectors of somekind.

I've also always thought it's interesting they are on that weird antenna that so far doesn't seem to serve a purpose...

[Larz Zahn]

I'm actually intrigued by the idea that its a host locater system. the Guyver could use the orbs as a way to home in on the protrusions on a hosts back. And the gigantic has the extra to find the Guyver. Haha, guess work!!

[*guyverfan]

well, atleast we all agree that their not just for decoration, hahahaha.

 

and, mmmm, as for vision/movement sensors, there wouldn't be a real reason why there'd be four on gigantic and only two on guyver. why not just leave it as two on gigantic aswell? since their located at the base of the head spike, there really isn't any body obstructions compared to where the silver head orbs are located.

 

yet, gigantic has three headbeams compared to guyvers only having one, so if the red orbs do have a function in relation to the headbeam then it makes sense to increase the size and number of them in relation to the size and number of headbeams?

 

although it would be cool if the guyvers had the power of teleportation, but we're at volume 31, why wouldn't takaya sensei already have shown it? there's been alot of ideal situations where teleportation would of fitted in.

[alkanfel009]

guyver has shown a kind of teleportation, from the beginning, his ability to move his dimencion pocket 

 

quisas spheres of bace sintonisan the antenna with the organs back, nobody even assures us that these orbs are not the means for the guyver pade a dimencion to another, and if this were the case would be a as efectica and powerful weapon, which included haverse before, things would be very easy for the protagonists,

[*guyverfan]

What I meant to say was that whilst sho, agito and now val have the guyver unit equiped that they have not been able to teleport themselves anywhere. Yep, I understand what your saying, that the red orbs are also a antenna transceiver/receivers for when the host calls for the unit when its laying dormant inthe boost dimension. Also act as a locator to find it's host.

[Super Existence]

Gigantic has two, their power doubled up or more. Why would it need double the power for a function which just locates and transports the unit to them.

[Larz Zahn]

I was looking closely at the Pic that alkanfel009 put up and i just noticed. His center head beam isn't bigger. But it its encased in a larger orb.

[*guyverfan]

his head beam is bigger compared to guyvers, even the two green extra headbeams on either side look slightly bigger than the guyvers.

 

(this is the best side by side comparison for size i could find at short notice)

 

 

here's an original one i found to compare the size of the headbeams

 

 

 

[*guyverfan]

now the reason i say that the red orbs are used in combination with the head beams is due to when i first saw gigantic and its head configuration and compared it to guyvers'.

 

i'll try to show how i think their connected in this illus.

 

ok,so, the two red orbs on guyvers head combined would roughly have the same suface area as one of the larger orbs on gigantics head.

and i roughly estimate that one of the smaller red orbs on gigantics head is about 2thirds the size of one of the larger red orbs, so the two smaller ones combined would be approx. over 1and ahalf times larger than 1 large red orb.

[Larz Zahn]

That's not what i meant. Go back to Alkanphel009s picture and LOOK closely at it. There is another sphere INSIDE the head beam...

[*guyverfan]

yes larz, i know what you meant, but when something is larger, the more detail is visible. the headbeams would have the same internals, only size difference which would be proportionate.

[*Jess♥]

still not really addressing the lack of red orbs on Guyver 3 though.

if this were a collection system for energy for the head beam, then guyver 3 and gigantic dark would be at an extreme disadvantage, right?

does that sound like Agito? the one who has 2 or 3 blades instead of one?

no, if this were to do with offensive capability then Agito would have been granted more.

This is making me believe that my earlier idea is maybe more realistic than I initially thought.