a doubt regarding the armor guyver

[alkanfel009]

I've had that question a long time

we all know that a Guyver unit improves skills by 100 times

so I wonder what happens if a guyver the bio improve a unit g

aumetaria both the guyver

[LordSpleach]

I don't think Guyverception is possible.

[Salkafar]

Actually, isn't that what a Gigantic is?

[alkanfel009]

in my opinion because it has yet to be proven anything I think as happened with the navigation areas naver relics, medals Control will merge into a single

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Edited December 1, 2012 by alkanfel009

[Guyver0]

Actually if a host gets two units and tries to activate one on top of the other, the two units would fight for dominance. The first unit which has already merged with it's host will fight off the second unit, thinking that it is some kind of invader. The second unit would continue to fight with the first unit until they end up tearing each other apart along with the host or the second unit may give up and search for another suitable host or maybe revert back into a dormant unit.

As for the Gigantic, no it isn't exactly the same. The Guyver's control medal with Sho's will, has conformed the navigational spheres and the bio material from the ship to become a secondary suit of armor. However the Navigational Spheres unlike the control medal don't have a predatory nature that would try to take the host away from the Guyver unit, so the control medal is able to command the Gigantic Armor as if it was an extension of itself.

[LordSpleach]

Actually if a host gets two units and tries to activate one on top of the other, the two units would fight for dominance. The first unit which has already merged with it's host will fight off the second unit, thinking that it is some kind of invader. The second unit would continue to fight with the first unit until they end up tearing each other apart along with the host or the second unit may give up and search for another suitable host or maybe revert back into a dormant unit.

That never happened.

[Super Existence]

The unit G would probably detect an activated control medal and not activate. It wouldn't do anything.

[Matt Bellamy]

The unit G would probably detect an activated control medal and not activate. It wouldn't do anything.

That or, when the new unit tried to bond with Sho, his regular unit would probably bio-boost and blast the new unit away. Either way, with how the Control medal attaches to the hosts brain, there would be no room for 2.

[alkanfel009]

new question

currently is shown according to both control the medal as control areas craft makers,

store vast amounts of information

even when these separated from the nave, an exivido save a lot of data, as demonstrated guyver 3

I think this yeba Guyvers possess both knowledge creators, to whom not even an acsedido,

and pociblemente, the bodies of giant Guyvers possess many similarities with ships relics,

So I wonder the giant Guyvers could create units g apartir of his own body,

this is just a theory but remember that if someone ubiese ace 10 years said that the gigantic guyver horn size could increase about 60 meters nobody believed it open, so it is feasible that a gigantic guyver can create new units g

[Guyver0]

That never happened.

Oh yeah I know, I guess I should have said that this is my own opinion form the beginning. Sorry, but this is just simply my view.

However I wonder if the host can have two units? Not equipping them both at the same time. but rather is able to switch between the two units? I know that really wouldn't make any real difference, but I am curious about it.

[*Jess♥]

how does anyone arrive at the conclusion that two control metals could not work in unison, sharing tasks and co-processing in places?

I think it would be cool if people could include the logical processes behind their conclusions

[*YoungGuyver]

Control metals seem to work together and share information, but fight off invading bio material.

And I think it is safe to say that the unit-G does NOT boost every host by 100 times. If a host is human, it is 100 times, based on the output of the tools and weapons it is capable of equipping the host with. Other species should be increased by different degrees. This is a more logical and mechanical conclusion. This is not a card game, the unit is not a multiplyer. This is backed up by the creators being a little surprised at 'how much' the human power was increased with Guyver 0.

[Guyver0]

how does anyone arrive at the conclusion that two control metals could not work in unison, sharing tasks and co-processing in places?

I think it would be cool if people could include the logical processes behind their conclusions

Very well, from my perspective the Guyver acts as an organism that keeps it's host the same state of being since merging with them. If one tries to equip the unit onto the other I THINK the pre-existing unit would view the second unit as an invader that's trying to change it's host.

Why I believe the first unit would fight against something, even if it is something that would essentially help is because when Sho was rendered unconscious at the hands of his father and the Guyver took over it killed Fumio because it cannot discern from friend or foe and will do anything to fight for it's existence. Which is why I think the Guyver unit is predatory and will do anything that will keep it's source of sustenance to itself.

Basically Guyver = "This is mine, go get your own"

That is my theory. I am more than willing to hear others opinions. Ryuki what is your logical conclusion on whether two units can share a host or not?

[Salkafar]

wonder the giant Guyvers could create units g apartir of his own body,

this is just a theory but remember that if someone ubiese ace 10 years said that the gigantic guyver horn size could increase about 60 meters nobody believed it open, so it is feasible that a gigantic guyver can create new units g

I posited the question years ago: can the Guyvers breed? There has never before been a Guyver unit that was alive for years, so who knows what might happen? Sho starts waking up in the middle of the night, miles from the hideout, bio-boosted. The fourth or fifth time this happens, he has a spasm, and to his horror, the abdominal panels split and open, similarly to the chest panels, but instead of a weapon, a giant slimy blister bulges... then bursts, and out drops a brand-new G-unit!

The question is, would it have a control medallion? I think it would; the control medallion is a crystalline computer, one huge molecule, and crystals grow by precipitation. I bet it could 'clone' itself. In any case, the control medallion would not allow the booster organism to reproduce itself out of control.

I wonder what those organisms were like originally.

[*Jess♥]

That is my theory. I am more than willing to hear others opinions. Ryuki what is your logical conclusion on whether two units can share a host or not?

my thoughts...

if a host were not already wearing his armour, then I don't see any reason why there would be any interference. I can't think of any time when we have seen the unit auto-equip itself. it is a nice thing to think about. do I think it would equip itself on death? probably. but if the host gets injured or sick or anything like that... no, I don't see it. it would be very inconvenient if the unit auto-equipped if shou stubbed his toe, for example.

so i think the second unit would respond and bond with him. then when it comes to bio-boosting, I think shou could be aware of two signals. he could summon each one separately. but i can't see any way they could both equip at the same time. but if they could, it brings me to the second scenario.

could shou equip another guyver while bio-boosted? I can see that it would be possible for the control metals to detect each other. one of two things could happen. either the CM will cooperate to create a dual system, or the equipped CM will tell the dormant one that an equip is not necessary. for such a versatile system, I think the host would get more of a choice or a way to exert his will. so if shou then said I WANNA EQUIP IT. then it would activate and join the original CM on the forehead, maybe side by side, or maybe merged together like the DCM from the relic.

I don't think it has to be a destructive process. they may be able to separate at any moment.

but then i think each of these could be equipped separately. and if they are ever equipped together, then they would merge the CM and augment each other.

I think that this could be possible and i think it is plausible considering what we have seen up until now.

edit: I forgot the third scenario.

if shou equipped a second guyver while not bio-boosted, then he equipped one and tried to call the other, I believe the two CM would become aware of each other for the first time. the one that is currently equipped would tell the second one of it's status and the second one would revert to it's dormant state. that is the other possibility.

[Super Existence]

I thought that's what every one was talking about was wearing two Guyvers simultaneously.

I still think the boost tissue in his back that summons the Guyver might signal another control medal to remain dormant.

Don't forget this was standard issue for the Uranus, they couldn't get any possible advantage

out of getting more than one if they both do the exact same job and seeing as they would be

handling Unit G's with their own activated it would make sense for an activated unit G to signal

dormant ones to stay dormant.

[Guyver0]

I agree the possibility of a host having two or more units at their disposal, but I just don't believe two or more units can be active at the same time. Just from what I've seen an interpreted is that the Guyver doesn't seem to have a "share clause" like two units have the capability to function together, but it is the merging of the two unit's bio-boosting process that would be reject from each other.

Like when in the second volume the Guyver has the capability of absorbing bio-boosted material i.e. when Guyver 1 absorbed the bio-boosted monster/Sho clone. However back when Sho and Hayami went to save Aptom from Cloud Gate; Aptom under Kabral's control tried to absorb Guyver 1 and was rejected. However just recently we've learned that Aptom can "cover" Guyver 1 and I think the Guyver allowed it because Aptom wasn't disrupting or taking over the system.

The reason I believe that the Control Medal and the Dual Navigational Spheres work is because they were made to "communicate" with one another and the Guyver's control medal has free reign over it. Meaning the Dual Navigation Spheres is 100% loyal to the Control Medal, like a Zoanoid is 100% loyal to a Zoalord.

Now I have wondered about the possibility of what would happen if the host died without the unit equipped? Would the unit suddenly "detect" that their host's vital signs have stopped and try to revive him/her, revert back into a unit, or just stay in the boost dimension for all time? The only theory I have is that the organisms on the host's backs send out a steady psychological pulse of sorts to the unit in the boost dimension and if the host dies those psychological pulses would stop; thus alerting the unit.

[alkanfel009]

I agree the possibility of a host having two or more units at their disposal, but I just don't believe two or more units can be active at the same time. Just from what I've seen an interpreted is that the Guyver doesn't seem to have a "share clause" like two units have the capability to function together, but it is the merging of the two unit's bio-boosting process that would be reject from each other.

Like when in the second volume the Guyver has the capability of absorbing bio-boosted material i.e. when Guyver 1 absorbed the bio-boosted monster/Sho clone. However back when Sho and Hayami went to save Aptom from Cloud Gate; Aptom under Kabral's control tried to absorb Guyver 1 and was rejected. However just recently we've learned that Aptom can "cover" Guyver 1 and I think the Guyver allowed it because Aptom wasn't disrupting or taking over the system.

The reason I believe that the Control Medal and the Dual Navigational Spheres work is because they were made to "communicate" with one another and the Guyver's control medal has free reign over it. Meaning the Dual Navigation Spheres is 100% loyal to the Control Medal, like a Zoanoid is 100% loyal to a Zoalord.

Now I have wondered about the possibility of what would happen if the host died without the unit equipped? Would the unit suddenly "detect" that their host's vital signs have stopped and try to revive him/her, revert back into a unit, or just stay in the boost dimension for all time? The only theory I have is that the organisms on the host's backs send out a steady psychological pulse of sorts to the unit in the boost dimension and if the host dies those psychological pulses would stop; thus alerting the unit.

is interesting but I think that if the host dies trapped guyver, as I see the situation, whether you sho shake or whoever has the guyver dies, as happened when sho was temporarily blocked to invoke guyver

when this was all by in the van and it lansa enzyme 2, g unit is activated only if the user is in extreme danger, and if the user dies, I think I like the guyver revived, for we have seen that a single living cell, it is capable of cloning a new body, so I think that even without activating the guyver they can not die

Examples like this would be the case when the stomach pierced Aptom sho, and armor to the chase immediately,

as I see the dead technically, does not create any incombeniente for Guyver unit, because I think it would revive the user layers in virtually any secenario

Edited December 4, 2012 by alkanfel009

[Guyver0]

is interesting but I think that if the host dies trapped guyver, as I see the situation, whether you sho shake or whoever has the guyver dies, as happened when sho was temporarily blocked to invoke guyver

when this was all by in the van and it lansa enzyme 2, g unit is activated only if the user is in extreme danger, and if the user dies, I think I like the guyver revived, for we have seen that a single living cell, it is capable of cloning a new body, so I think that even without activating the guyver they can not die

Examples like this would be the case when the stomach pierced Aptom sho, and armor to the chase immediately,

as I see the dead technically, does not create any incombeniente for Guyver unit, because I think it would revive the user layers in virtually any secenario

That is interesting, so your proposing if the host dies the Guyver would just simply clone another within itself?

Keep in mind that Sho was keeping the unit at bay subconsciously and if he were to die against Aptom the armor might have come and save him because the mental "block" was no longer in place. I'm not saying that it would because it could very well play out in the scenario your suggesting. We just don't have anything that predates this kind of scenario to prove either one.

However if the scenario that I'm presenting came to fruition, I think it has already been determined that the Guyver will not leave the host unless all the damage is repaired. So if Sho died against Aptom and still didn't overcome the trauma; would the armor just automatically remove itself again or does that depend on Sho and being able to find some form of respite?