Theories on the Gigantic Exceed(XD)

[LordSpleach]

Now we've all seen the data of the Gigantic Exceed says its the form of the true power, but...

...I believe it's not just limited to the Giant.

Remember, Caerleon is believed to refer to Archanfel when he says there was one who could use powers of the other zoalords. Now if the Gigantic armor was designed to defeat Archanfel, and Sho was linked to all that data(probably Archanfel's data as well) in the advent ship, the armor couldn't be limited to a giant mode. I believe if Sho fought other zoalords in Exceed mode, the armor would adapt to their abilities. Example: If Sho fought Li Yentsui, Sho should be able to see his portals and possibly maybe able to create to his own.

The only zoalord(so far) that would not apply to this theory is of course Waferdanos, since he was a different experiment all together.

[Guest Spazicon]

I'm more than sure, we've only seen the bare minimum of what the Exceed form is capable of. Only scratched the surface.

[Salkafar]

That is a fascinating idea. And 100% logical.

As for "This is the true power"- maybe they just meant "true power output" or just "What it really can do"

[LordSpleach]

Salkafar, I agree with the true power output. I think that is what 'form of the true power' meant!

[daveblackeye152]

Example: If Sho fought Li Yentsui, Sho should be able to see his portals and possibly maybe able to create to his own.

Hey I could have sworn I once brought up this idea and nobody said that it was an interesting theory!

I guess it was the wrong time.

[*BananaKing]

Just as the guyver has an extreme power of adaptibility, I believe the gigantic has the power to adapt to any situation. The fact that khan was a giant and the gigantic's power wasn't great enough to beat him, sho activated the gigantic's greatest power of adaptability. The gigantic grew to match khan's size and made it the power output matched the scale. I think that's what makes the gigantic so strong, the fact that it can adapt to defeat any opponent

[*YoungGuyver]

Kind of reminds me of Aptom in a way

[Renegade]

Hold on there. I don't think the Gigantic changed into the Exceed just because Sho willed it. The foreshadowing and his role in creating the Gigantic make me believe Sho created these abilities of the Gigantic while in the pod with the Navigational Spheres.

[LordSpleach]

Renegade, do you think Sho had full access to Archanfel's data files?

[*zeo]

Essentially the Gigantic did transform into the Exceed because Sho Willed it, since Sho did Will it, the question however is whether this potential was always there from the beginning or whether the Gigantic adapted to Sho's needs on the spot.

It appears the prevailing opinion is that the Gigantic was created to counter Archanphel, who appears to have the abilities demonstrated by all other Zoalords (though this has been more alluded to rather than demonstrated). But until we know for sure it is also possible the Gigantic may simply have an incredible potential to adapt as needed. After all the Gigantic itself is an adaptation willed by Sho, so it's something we should still consider as a possibility.

[*Jess♥]

personally i think that the lack of full dual control medals might inhibit that kind of adapting ability.

since the navigation spheres likely worked in the relic to facilitate different zoaforms etc. this seems like a natural ability of the navigation spheres.

to process and adapt new forms and abilities.

it is clear though, that the navigation spheres are not fully present in the gigantic armour. there is only one outer ring present in what we see.

it is possible that the whole navigation sphere compressed to the one ring, but i find this unlikely. I prefer to think that part of it was left in the cocoon.

[LordSpleach]

That would explain how the Gigantic armor would repair itself in the cocoon so quickly, but the orb on the back of the Gigantic head could be part of the navigational spheres as well.

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[*Jess♥]

I understand what you're saying, personally i always thought it was simply an additional hyper sense orb.

[*zeo]

I too believe that the orb at the back of the head is just another hyper sensor, rather I believe the rest of the Dual Navigation Orbs are still in the Gigantic's Cocoon.

After all it still operates independantly of the Gigantic, while the Gigantic is in use, and all we know for sure is that the original Dual Navigation Orbs fused together and formed the Cocoon around itself and G1's CM. What exactly happened to them and where the third CM ring for the Gigantic came from has never been specifically specified.

[*YoungGuyver]

I find it interesting that the Gigantic has a docking port such as the Chrysalis. Oh, I know we can explain the need and such, but its still interesting-given how the regular armor seems to work without it.

[xtro guyver]

I've always put down the gigantics effectivness against the zoalords as it being very well designed

after all chronus zoa tech is based off the data they recovered from the arzona releic, which the relic from mount minkami would also have had a copy of. It also helped that all the zoalords we in the vincity of the relic giving it chance to scan them, after all even the ark did a full scan of applyon with out anyone directing it too.

add all those factors together and its no wonder the gigantic is ripping through the zoalords quite easily

[*YoungGuyver]

I don't think -EVERY- zoanoid is based on a creator design. I think Chronos scientists do come up with original designs. Sure, the first few zoanoids were probably creator based, but I think that the biggest thing they did was take the 'zoanoid process'. I'm not saying they are encoding DNA from complete scratch, as it would take a very long time to write every single letter of the genetic code. But I think they are learning how to mix and match various segments to mimic different wild life creatures, such as mimicking segments of code from electric eels, and chitin armor from crabs. Chronos just might be coming up with combinations the Uranos hadn't processed yet. The hyperzoanoids are the best evidence that the Chronos scientists are coming up with a deeper understanding of the genetic structure. So its kinda doubtful that a complete list of modern zoanoid tech would be in the Relic's hard drive.

Though you made a very good point about the twelve zoalords being within the presence of the Relic, and that it could have scanned them. Scanning creatures within the vicinity is a very good point. The degree to which the Relic can scan is a question though. Can the Relic scan DNA with its equivalent of hyper sensor orbs? Does the range of the orbs permit that? Or do they need physical contact for that level of detail? Or must they be put in a womb in order to undergo a full analysis?

My, this is getting a little off topic, so I'll stop

[The Crimson Guyver]

I haven't really been reading the manga lately but from what I know is that when Sho was in the creator's ship he asked the ship to give him the power to defeat the zoalords. And since he wasn't specific the advent ship having records of all the created zoalords (except Guyot/Imakarum) so it give all the power that it could enough to defeat Arcanfel most likely. And that the gigantic doesn't essentially only turn into the exceed. He could become different forms that can handle the other zoalord powers. Perhaps once the Guyver faces Caerleon, the Guyver gigantic could create copies of itself or he'll gain a ability to determine which copy is the real Caerleon.

[*BananaKing]

Think about it, the guyver's greatest factor is the fact that it may be (according to murakami) the most versitile weapon in the universe! The greatest thing about it is it can adapt its shape and output, to fit any creature. There could probably even be a bio-boosted dog! Sho took the greatest feat of the armor and took it to the next level and made it able to adapt to any situation. Take the vibro blades for instance: the guyver blades can only go so far right? Well the gigantic blades can extend to X length and weave around and move as if made of rubber! But they still vibrate and can cut through anything!

Basically the guyver needed a way to fight khan. Khan was 50+ meters tall, and the gigantic couldn't hold its own against him. Not only was khan's size 50x but his strength and power output matched his size and not even the 12ft gigantic could fend off that! So sho tapped in the what makes the gigantic a truely deadly weapon, its power to adapt! He became 50meters tall and his power matched his size, allowing him to defeat khan. Remember the zoalords are still essentially organic zoanoids. The guyver is an armor, which is easier to kill?

[*zeo]

The disparity was actually worse than that BananaKing. Gigantic G1 isn't 12 feet tall but actually just under 9 feet tall, while Dragon Lord Khan was closer to 60 meters tall and went up to 82 in his final winged form. Even Exceed only went up to 52 meters tall and weighed much less than Dragon Lord Khan.

But like you said Sho still had the advantage and I believe the Unit may indeed be extremely adaptable.

[LordSpleach]

Some other ideas

Power of the Gigasmasher Exceed/XDsmashers:

Now we all know that Neo-ZX-Tole's Ultimate/Final Blaster Tempest had the power to obliterate Tokyo and the regular Gigasmasher easily knocked it back. Now I'm wondering about the power of the Gigasmasher in Exceed mode. According to the data files the power of Cabraal's Wales Purgatorium is equal to that of the Gigasmasher and we know he intended to destroy Tokyo(random unnecessary thought: Trying to one up Godzilla), and use his Exceedsmashers because he knew the clashing of the beams would destroy Tokyo anyway. I just want to know, what would happen if the Gigantic Exceed fired his smashers from orbit, how much would it destroy?

[*BananaKing]

It would probably pierce the planet and create some kind of megastorm that would destroy the planet

[*Jess♥]

the area that would be devastated, must be based upon distance.because they stated that his wales purgatorium would destroy shinjuku.

that's a small fraction of tokyo.

so it has to be distance related.

the wales purgatorium is equivaolent power to the gigasmasher.

but not the XD gigasmasher.

the weaponry is increased based on size. that's what the datafile says.

so the xd gigasmasher would probably swallow most of japan from orbit.

[*BananaKing]

Maybe more, its not clear how powerful the regular gigsmasher is so we can't tell how much stronger the XD Smasher

[LordSpleach]

the area that would be devastated, must be based upon distance.because they stated that his wales purgatorium would destroy shinjuku.

that's a small fraction of tokyo.

so it has to be distance related.

the wales purgatorium is equivaolent power to the gigasmasher.

but not the XD gigasmasher.

the weaponry is increased based on size. that's what the datafile says.

so the xd gigasmasher would probably swallow most of japan from orbit.

I agree Ryuki, but don't you find it the Wales Purgatorium could destroy Shinjuku, yet the Ultimate/Final Blaster Tempest powered by solar radiation could destroy all of Tokyo. Either Khan wouldn't charge the beam completely, or the fact that ZX-Tole becoming a lost number gave him that ability.

Maybe more, its not clear how powerful the regular gigsmasher is so we can't tell how much stronger the XD Smasher

True BK, there is no official multiplier yet for the Gigantic Exceed yet. I'm surprised Chronos hasn't done a analysis yet.