Poll: Warrior Guyver vs. Warrior Guyver

[McAvoy]

Free for all. This has been done before, but hell with it. No alliance, every man for themselves. Who would win in a battle against each other? Warrior Guyver vs. Warrior Guyver. Who would win? No Gigantics, No Aceaers and No Matrixes.

I didn't include Guardian since she would be the most powerful than any of the Warrior Guyvers. Nor did I include Female Warrior Guyver because she would naturally side with her husband. Obviously Warrior Guyver Vamore shouldn't either since he is very capable of killing any of the Warrior Guyvers.

[exscaped_pyscho]

I voted for WG do to the extensive destructive capabilities of the Gravity Shield weapon. True Warrior Guyver 5 is essentially the same but he wouldn't be able to handle the more massive feats the weapon is capable of without his control medal freaking out on him. Jason could counter virtually any attack made on him with the Gravity Shield and given time eradicate the others without breaking a sweat.

[Juggernought]

I think it would be a toss up between the type 2 warrior units. They are designed mostly for offensive combat and so over time could potentially overcome the higher defensive capabilities of the prototype unit. The gravity shield is a potentially dangerous weapon, i doubt stephen or agito would even let jason power it up to the point where it becomes a threat, they would take measures to either prevent the power up or try and kill him quickly right after he uses it when his defense is down.

[*zeo]

Use of the Gravity shield doesn't really lower his defenses, other than to expell gravitational energy that the shield could use for boosting defense.

Jason's base defenses would remain the same, just unenhanced by the Gravity shield until it can recharge. The blast field for example would still be at his disposal.

He only really loses his defenses if he uses the Mega Pressure Cannon attack and siphons off his shield energy to boost the Pressure Cannon.

However, neither Stephen nor Agito may have a choice when it comes to letting Jason Charge up, since much of the Warrior Unit's power comes from gravity energy manipulation. The CPM even combines the gravity energy with hyper space energy, which means most attacks would wind up helping Jason charge up.

Course the head beams, sonic busters, Swords, and Mega Smashers are the exception.

WG2's also have the advantage of raw speed and strength, but that's only because they can siphon their CPM energy and use it to boost their physical speed and strength but in so doing they can't use the CPM's for anything else. And they need to concentrate to do this.

All WG's can teleport of course so attacking and hitting are not always a straight forward proposition. Not to mention there are some tricks WG could pull off with Hyper Space to help equalize things.

Though there is also things a WG2 unit could do that Stephen hasn't learned yet.

But all things considered Jason is the only one who could actually gather enough power to destroy another WG.

Course WG5 could team up with someone and use his limited gravity shield to weaken Jason's defenses and leave him open to attack.

[WarriorZoalord]

Course WG5 could team up with someone and use his limited gravity shield to weaken Jason's defenses and leave him open to attack.

true, but WG5 has managed to piss off ALL of the other WG's, so that options not really open >>

I would say the prototype might have even more powers we dont know of yet thus could do more perhaps and well. beat the rest.

Not to mention he's been in fights where he's faced people very very out of his power range and learns more about his unit, hes had the most experience with a Warrior unit. About the only one i could see beating him would be Sho, assuming he ever got a WG unit, as they are similar in why they wish to fight and such.

[McAvoy]

Le'ts keep in mind that the WG and the WG5 both would never would seriously reach their limit in their gravity shields. Also, remember that the WG5 fought WG2 and WG2 beat him around using the CPMs. I don't know whether or not the WG5 is equally as trained as WG but it does show how effective a WG2 unit can be.

WGC has the most powerful weapon but he has to literally ram his oponent which limits it's effectiveness.

WG4 may be the weakest but he can be deadly close range, though long range weapons would kill him since he has no shields.

[Juggernought]

Give that guy an acear unit....that should help level the playing field a bit.

[*zeo]

Le'ts keep in mind that the WG and the WG5 both would never would seriously reach their limit in their gravity shields.

That may be true for WG, since it took the GZ to overload him, but WG5's CM is an imperfect copy and thus has a far lower tolerance for such strain.

Remember it took one good attack from WG2 and WG5 woke up looking like, and thinking he was, WG for the next two weeks.

Also, remember that the WG5 fought WG2 and WG2 beat him around using the CPMs. I don't know whether or not the WG5 is equally as trained as WG but it does show how effective a WG2 unit can be.

In that battle Lorcan started out about as well trained as Stephen. Later, he also gains access to some of Jason's training since his Unit is a clone of Jason's but it is a bit muddled with his own memories.

Though he doesn't have either Stephen's or Jason's level of experience using his Unit since the memories he got from Jason only extend to the Time War event when Jason's arm was torn off.

WGC has the most powerful weapon but he has to literally ram his oponent which limits it's effectiveness.

True, though it's basically just a cross between the WG's Gravity Shield and the WG2 CPM's.

The Gravity Shield just has the most potential power while the CPM's have the best instaneous power. The WG's base abilities are otherwise all the same.

WG4 may be the weakest but he can be deadly close range, though long range weapons would kill him since he has no shields.

It depends, his defensive attack field can shield him if timed correctly but otherwise he's only about 75% of the others and lacks any power systems like the Gravity Shield/CPM/Meteor Blast Field.

So he's virtually harmless to the others, though he could manage to make Lorcan schizoid again

[McAvoy]

The point I was saying about the Gravity Shield was that neither WG or WG5 would reach their maximum potential of the shield. Even with WG5's flawed control medal, he would able to handle any gravity attacks thrown his way from the other Warrior Guyvers.

In all honesty, the WG2 unit might be able to dominate the battlefield if they are smart since they can be literally twice as powerful as the other Warrior Guyvers. But WGC or WG might be able to get in lucky shots or someone is stupid enough to use multiple gravity attacks on WG. Or someone just stands still so WGC can hit him.

[*zeo]

The point I was saying about the Gravity Shield was that neither WG or WG5 would reach their maximum potential of the shield. Even with WG5's flawed control medal, he would able to handle any gravity attacks thrown his way from the other Warrior Guyvers.

I can see why you would think that but WG5's gravity shield is far inferior to WG's.

The reason stems from the imperfect copy of the WG CM that WG5 is equipped with.

To give you an idea of the disparity remember it took WG5 2 weeks to recover from WG2's attack, 2 weeks in which he looked and thought he was WG.

But it took less than a week for WG to recover fully from far more damage after "Time War".

Since the efficiency and capacity of the Gravity Shield is linked to the CM, it means WG5's capabilities with the Gravity Shield are far less than WG's.

So WG5 may be able to handle gravitational attacks pretty well from the other WG's, however WG himself can overload him by simply charging up a few minutes worth of gravitational energy (or channel it from the other WG's) and slam it all at once at WG5.

Another example is WG2's attack involved heavy use of the CPM but the CPM energy is not pure raw energy, it also channels gravitational energy which WG5 could have drained and used to help reinforce his defenses. But he couldn't manage it and thus WG2 was able to penetrate his defenses and unleash the CPM blast at point blank range.

The fact WG5's CM was damaged by this is further evidence his CM is inferior as WG got hit by far worse from the Guyver Zoalord without sustaining damage to his CM.

In all honesty, the WG2 unit might be able to dominate the battlefield if they are smart since they can be literally twice as powerful as the other Warrior Guyvers. But WGC or WG might be able to get in lucky shots or someone is stupid enough to use multiple gravity attacks on WG. Or someone just stands still so WGC can hit him.

Actually it could go either way, its a misconception that WG2's have an overwhelming advantage over WG's.

Though WG never really had a chance to learn all the advance combat moves his unit is capable of before becoming Dreadnought there are things a WG can do to more than even the odds against a WG2.

You are also forgetting WG's don't have to fight in traditional methods, WGC for example could just teleport to point blank range to increase the odds of him hitting his target.

[guyverfanatic]

You are also forgetting WG's don't have to fight in traditional methods, WGC for example could just teleport to point blank range to increase the odds of him hitting his target.

Mwahahahaha. Exactly why I voted WGC.

[Matt Bellamy]

You are also forgetting WG's don't have to fight in traditional methods, WGC for example could just teleport to point blank range to increase the odds of him hitting his target.

Mwahahahaha. Exactly why I voted WGC.

Ahahaha!

Even I didn't vote for him... since the unfortunate thing about WGC isn't about the unit, but the host. Of all the WG's, he's easily the worst host of any of them.

Maybe that's why the Matrix granted him such an attack. No need to think, just ram everything

[Armageddon]

You are also forgetting WG's don't have to fight in traditional methods, WGC for example could just teleport to point blank range to increase the odds of him hitting his target.

Mwahahahaha. Exactly why I voted WGC.

Ahahaha!

Even I didn't vote for him... since the unfortunate thing about WGC isn't about the unit, but the host. Of all the WG's, he's easily the worst host of any of them.

Maybe that's why the Matrix granted him such an attack. No need to think, just ram everything

Wouldn't his not thinking be solved by putting him through riggerous training?

As for his attack, does the Matrix really take into subscious thoughts about using attacks and everything? If so, that little toy has a hell of an edge.

[Matt Bellamy]

Mwahahahaha. Exactly why I voted WGC.

Ahahaha!

Even I didn't vote for him... since the unfortunate thing about WGC isn't about the unit, but the host. Of all the WG's, he's easily the worst host of any of them.

Maybe that's why the Matrix granted him such an attack. No need to think, just ram everything

Wouldn't his not thinking be solved by putting him through riggerous training?

As for his attack, does the Matrix really take into subscious thoughts about using attacks and everything? If so, that little toy has a hell of an edge.

Well, you just need to look at the Unit-G itself. It customises itself to the host. The Matrix, being something of emense potential, would easily be able to tap into something like that, and create custom weapons for each individual that it touches.

[WarriorZoalord]

Well, you just need to look at the Unit-G itself. It customises itself to the host. The Matrix, being something of emense potential, would easily be able to tap into something like that, and create custom weapons for each individual that it touches.

biggest example here is apothecary. WG tech mixed with GwotG tech, yet has like no offensive capabilities, only becasue the host hates fighting.

[McAvoy]

Not exactly. The Apothecary Guyver was designed to support the baby. All the technology was centered around that.

[*zeo]

Hey, let's see how good everyone knows their WG tech

Answer these questions...

1) Which WG can channel energy?

2) Which WG can Power Boost in Hyper Space?

3) Which WG can communicate telepathically with non-Guyvers?

4) Which WG can Perceive their environment in Bullet Time?

5) Which WG has the Darmon Back Up Power System?

6) Which WG can activate their unit without the blast field?

7) Which WG can reproduce a Gigantic Like Pressure Cannon Blast?

Hint, answers have nothing to do with the Matrix or WG4.

[Destroyer Guyver]

1- Warrior Guyver Type 2

2- Warrior Guyver

3- Warrior Guyver

4- Warrior Guyver Type 2

5- All

6- Warrior Guyver Type 2

7- Warrior Guyver C

[WarriorZoalord]

lets see...

1. Depends on the energy. WG prototypes can channel shield energy into their mega pressure cannon gravity attack thing, WG2's got the CPM's to channel energy for boosts.

2. I believe it's prototype only.

3. I think they all can do that, but none of the others realized it yet so only WG can do it.

4. Dreadnought can, but i believe thats a matrix ability, so thats out, so i would say CPM'ed WG2 or 3.

5. Well, for sure tWG, WG2's may have had it removed when they added in the CPM's. Since the CPM's are basically a secondary HSL system if the user wants it to be, it could power the unit all around at normal levels without the need for the darmon system.

6. All of them can, but only WG can summon it at any time.

7. All of them.

[*zeo]

All so close but yet so far...

Hint, all the questions have the same answer!

[Destroyer Guyver]

Im guessing then its either all of them or Warrior Guyver himself.

Zeo you are bloody evil somethimes you know

[*zeo]

Yes, but what do you think the answer is and why?

[Destroyer Guyver]

After thinking about it (for 30 seconds) i would have to say that its WG himself that has all of these abilites, due to the unit being the final prototype it would imo have features that the "production" Type 2s would either lack or are present but with reduced effectivness or altered function, such as the Gravity Shield and CPMs which i belive have been mentioned to use the same system but modified for a different effect.

However its possible that iam completely wrong and all "true" WGs have the same abilites but simply have not demonstrated them either because the host doesn't know how to use them(most likely) or because they don't fit there figting style/personality (cluching at straws with the last two).

[*zeo]

Okay, the answer is ALL of THEM!

Reason being...

1) Which WG can channel energy?

All WG's have the ability to channel energy, the question never asked how or what type of energy.

WG2's just have a readily available source of energy to draw from. WG doesn't have a secondary power system so has to draw from what he has but the ability to channel that energy is the same for both.

2) Which WG can Power Boost in Hyper Space?

Since all WG's have the ability to channel energy, then in Hyper Space (the source of their power) they would all have equal access to that energy and thus could all power boost the same. WG2's only advantage is that with the CPM's providing a secondary Hyper Space Link that they can do the same while in normal space, but in hyper space they would all be equal.

3) Which WG can communicate telepathically with non-Guyvers?

Standard ability of all WG's, whether they are aware of it or not. Remember the WG unit was originally intended just for Creators.

4) Which WG can Perceive their environment in Bullet Time?

Another standard feature, WG2's just use it more since they need to keep up with their CPM boosted speed but the Bullet Time perception is a result of the special WG CM to host brain link.

Essentially a WG CM acts like a secondary copy of the host brain, which is why the WG CM is capable of friend or foe recognition even while under full self defense mode as well as among other enhancements. This in turn lets the WG CM act like an extension/augmentation of the host brain and literally allows the host to think in Bullet Time.

Unlike a normal Guyver, which though the CM can react fast enough to say vaporize a bullet in mid-flight with the head beam, the host mind isn't fully aware of what happened.

5) Which WG has the Darmon Back Up Power System?

This is part of the WG tech, so is included in all WG Units.

Remember, the CPM's are essentially a form of HSL as well. They are just an external secondary system, but anything that could effect the HSL would probably also effect the CPM's as well.

6) Which WG can activate their unit without the blast field?

This is something all WG's have shown, the only difference is WG and WGC can call their blast fields at will but the question was who could activate their unit without the blast field.

7) Which WG can reproduce a Gigantic Like Pressure Cannon Blast?

All WG's produce enough gravitational energy that combined with their energy focusing and channeling ability lets them reproduce a Gigantic Like Pressure Cannon.

[WarriorZoalord]

So, I would say thats a trick question, but since you said more than 1 question..... Its a trick quiz!!!!!

Darn you Zeo