Warrior Unit's Crystal's

[Shenzon]

The crystal's on the Warrior unit's, are they always glowing like that in the drawings (like the drawing of Warrior Guyver C) or just when their CPM's are activated?

[*zeo]

There is active and then there is active.

The body Crystals are always glowing but they get brighter the more power the Warrior Guyver channels.

Btw, only WG2's have CPM's.

[Shenzon]

There is active and then there is active.

The body Crystals are always glowing but they get brighter the more power the Warrior Guyver channels.

Btw, only WG2's have CPM's.

Oh okay, that's what I thought about the crystals. I was wondering because the pics have them as glowing. I was pretty sure that was their natural look, and they just brighten when more power is channeled through them.

But when you say only WG2's have CPM's, WGC has them, but they are tied directly in with his Comet Attack though right? He can't boost his abilities or anything like the WG2's only power his Comet Attack, if I'm not mistaken.

[Kamui de' Tempest]

That's because the formation of WGC is unique where in it was made or rather upgraded from a regular Unit into a WG. The Matrix took GC unit off and added the necessary tech needed to function at a WG level. THis is evident because he happens to be the only WG with 3 Grav Orbs instead of the one really powerful one. So basically the Matrix upgraded the CM for functionale and add two Grav Orbs to help power the capabilities (as a result it might have thrown in the CPM's as well...not sure how they got in the mix). WGC, because of this, isn't a real original WG, but an up grade.

On an after thought, maybe the Matrix added the CPM due to Max's want or need for power. Kinda like how the Matrix tricked Jason's unit out when it was damaged and it, the WG, and the War Relic's CM (if it's not the War Relic I stand corrected) were merging together. It's kinda funny how the transformation from WG to Dreadnaught happened similarly to how Sho transformed into Gigantic Guyver. Hmmmmm? Coincedence...maybe, Intentionally...I like to believe so. (Might have something to due to the Guyver Effect in itself)

So anyway, to bring the tangent full circle. Much like Sho wanted power when his Unit was destroyed, Jason needed power when his unit was destroyed, and Max needed power as well...I think the Matrix in the latter two's case picked up on those desires and made the next model that much better because of it. The Matrix is finicky anyway... like a girlfriend on V-Day. (or something...I don't know.... to much soda)

[*zeo]

Actually no, WGC doesn't really have a CPM.

Basically the same technology goes for all three Warrior types.

For WG the tech is used to give it the blast shield and gravity shield ability.

For WG2 the tech is reconfigured to produce the CPM's.

For WGC his comet blast field is a combination of the two configerations.

But only WG2's have actual CPM's.

[Juggernought]

Does WGC's comet attack take time to charge up or is his total power channeled into that rather quickly?

[McAvoy]

It akes time to charge. The same components that make up WG's gravity shield and WG2's CPMs make up WGC's Comet attack. However, all of that power is channeled into that ability and nthing else.

I don't think he uses his gravitational powers as well for that attack but I might be wrong.

Though WGC has three gravity orbs, they are still kore powerful than the ones found in standard units. I mean if that was the case then, he would the same powers as a Gigantic Guyver, not a Warrior Guyver despite the increase in overall power. Such as he wouldn't be able to fire mini pressure cannons at a similar speed as a Zoalor'd gravity bullet attack. He would create a 4x pressure cannon, and a 20x pressure cannon. That's about it.

[Kamui de' Tempest]

Then is there a reason for the three Grav Orb configuration unique to him. If all three Grav Orbs are on par with a single WG Grav Orb individually ,and it has been said that the Grav Orbs allow the siphoning of energy from the boost dimension on a regular Guyver I would assume in some shape or form that the same could be said for a WG, then why isn't he more powerful then he currently is. Or does the HSL take the job of power supply allowing the Grav Orbs to be geared solely as a source of offense and not a power supply? Even if that where true....why is he not offensively more powerful then with three WG classed Grav Orbs?

[xtro guyver]

Then is there a reason for the three Grav Orb configuration unique to him. If all three Grav Orbs are on par with a single WG Grav Orb individually ,and it has been said that the Grav Orbs allow the siphoning of energy from the boost dimension on a regular Guyver I would assume in some shape or form that the same could be said for a WG, then why isn't he more powerful then he currently is. Or does the HSL take the job of power supply allowing the Grav Orbs to be geared solely as a source of offense and not a power supply? Even if that where true....why is he not offensively more powerful then with three WG classed Grav Orbs?

Actual if you look at WGC his gravity orbs are not the pryamid shape of a WG orb, there still the sphere shape of a normal guyver orb, which is proberly why he has three of them, so that together they function around the samme level as a WG orb

[Kamui de' Tempest]

Right. I saw that. I was just saying are all three equal to one WG grav orb or are they more powerful together than one WG grav orb?

[*zeo]

Actually, only WG2 has a pyramid shaped Gravity Control Orb and that is to help focus the power from the CPM's.

The HSL system does effect the total gravitational power of the Unit.

But just to clarify all three Warrior Guyvers have three Gravity Control Orbs.

WG and WG2 just have their's integrated into the armor so they aren't visible but WGC was activated before it was completely converted so they remain visible on his unit.

There's an elaborate explaination that will make a lot of things more clear but you'll have to wait for the Chronicles version of the WG data file.

[Frost]

And not to forget WG3 his unit is also from WG2 universe

[*zeo]

WG3 has a WG2 unit just like WG2's. WG3's originally belonged to the Solom from the WG2 universe.

[McAvoy]

Warrior Guyver C's unique unit may be a factor in Max's need for power. Otherwise I don't see a good reason for the Matrix to upgrade it. It assumes the user may want it that way, but I think for the most part when it is on it's own, the Matrix just does what it needs to do. For example, regenerating Hybrid Guyver into Prometheus because he was nearly dead. Probably at that point Greg Howzer had a pretty strong will to live.

[Shenzon]

Warrior Guyver C's unique unit may be a factor in Max's need for power. Otherwise I don't see a good reason for the Matrix to upgrade it. It assumes the user may want it that way, but I think for the most part when it is on it's own, the Matrix just does what it needs to do. For example, regenerating Hybrid Guyver into Prometheus because he was nearly dead. Probably at that point Greg Howzer had a pretty strong will to live.

True, it could be possible that its core programming is to ensure the survival of creator tech, as that is also what it is. But here is a question, when Dreadnought entered the Strange New World chapter, why did the Matrix stop of at Arizona and repair a dead relic? Dreadnought didn't send it there as he was unconcious? Plus Dreadnought who was its master at the time, didn't summon it, so shouldn't it just wait in hyperspace until summoned? For some reason, it does things on its own.

Hahaha....maybe it gets bored waiting around in hyperspace..

[Juggernought]

Or it could be following some unknown programming of the creators....or it has its own agenda as it is somewhat sentient....who knows

[WarriorZoalord]

from what i understand, it does what it wants when not under the direct control of a warrior unit, and also interprets orders in a unique way. as it vanished for some reason when guyver 3 wen to get the WG2 unit he hid with the matrix, so he didnt find it there.

Also keep in mind, the matrix upgraded GC to WGC at the request of WG2 becasue he was the only one hwo knew how to work the matrix, yet when Dready tried to do the same with Guyver faye, it instead removed the unit and sent it who knows where, and it was the same matrix in both instances. Also, look at what it did in the W'Kar universe inorder to see that the baby was saved while restoring assassin guyver. i think it just interprets what should be the best course of action with each request.

[Sully]

from what i understand, it does what it wants when not under the direct control of a warrior unit, and also interprets orders in a unique way. as it vanished for some reason when guyver 3 wen to get the WG2 unit he hid with the matrix, so he didnt find it there.

Also keep in mind, the matrix upgraded GC to WGC at the request of WG2 becasue he was the only one hwo knew how to work the matrix, yet when Dready tried to do the same with Guyver faye, it instead removed the unit and sent it who knows where, and it was the same matrix in both instances. Also, look at what it did in the W'Kar universe inorder to see that the baby was saved while restoring assassin guyver. i think it just interprets what should be the best course of action with each request.

Another differance there is, Matrix whole compared to Matrix inside a WG unit control medal. Faye's unit is still "unknown" instatus.

But for the most part it does go with the rough idea of your command and completely depends on the mental image given to the Matrix. So if you didn't focus right, well the result is going to be something around what you wanted, but not exactly what you wanted.

[Shenzon]

That's a good point, Sully. So your saying in the instance with the child, Fighter Guyver just focussed on saving the child, but not the means to get there. So the Matrix interpreted it, an choose the best course of action?

But when Dreadnought first arrived in Fiona's world, why was it at that dead relic? No one summoned it, or requested anything of it. All that did, was subject it to being able to be taken away by someone else, like Alkanphel. How do the Creators keep theirs in check, if it wonders off at times?

[McAvoy]

I would imagine the same as we would for a pet. Keep it under leash, or 'plugged in' somewhere or whatever.

The Matrix probably has a preset programming such as regenerating anything Creator technology. So that probably applies to GC and that dead Relic.