Shenzon Posted June 12, 2007 Posted June 12, 2007 I have a question, what do you think the other Guyver's of the ACTF are doing, as well as Ultimus? The ACTF should send them to Australia to help Dreadnought. Quote
McAvoy Posted June 12, 2007 Posted June 12, 2007 It's obvious. Protecting ACTF and other areas in case the Grakkens go over there too. But really it's because depsite being Warrior Guyvers, the other Warrior Guyvers have a far greater chance of actually being killed in this fight. Ultimus might hold out a little longer, but he is still just aGiant Aceaer enhanced Warrior class upgraded Standard Guyver. Gilgamesh could help but he is still too far inexperienced to deal with this. Zeus might help but he's MIA. Prometheus is worrying about ops in Canada. Zeugma has a very good chance of being killed. Guardian could help but she is a little too weak to give any serious help. AWG2 is too weak. Like I said the only one capable of helping out is Angel. Quote
Shenzon Posted June 12, 2007 Posted June 12, 2007 Ultimus would be a great help, if he is vaporize, he will be back once he regenerates. He would be the best person to send to help Dreadnought I think. Even AWG2 could help some. Too bad Kron isn't around. I would like to see him in full force. Quote
Weltall2 Posted June 13, 2007 Posted June 13, 2007 Umm if a weapon is powerful enough it can reach hyperspace. Also don't forget in a fight dreadnought almost always has his teleport block up. Quote
Shenzon Posted June 13, 2007 Posted June 13, 2007 Umm if a weapon is powerful enough it can reach hyperspace. Also don't forget in a fight dreadnought almost always has his teleport block up. True, but he can choose who to block right? Quote
Juggernought Posted June 13, 2007 Posted June 13, 2007 I think he can select which form of teleportation to block. I believe the zoalords use psionic methods or even wormholes. Many others tunnel directly through hyperspace. Quote
Shenzon Posted June 13, 2007 Posted June 13, 2007 That's good, the Warrior Units would be safe fighting along side him then. Quote
*zeo Posted June 13, 2007 Posted June 13, 2007 True, but he can choose who to block right? Yes! Quote
Sully Posted June 13, 2007 Author Posted June 13, 2007 i no they've got sum issues to sort out buh surely gigamesh wud b a vital warrior begin a W'Kar repo That would be a nope. He's got 1 days fight time and none of the regenerative powers Dreadnought does. He'd start well but after an hour he'd be shagged and he's a mighty big target. On another note to why ACTF wouldn't want him there. Dreadnought doesn't like Giglamesh either so would most likely let him die if he got in a sticky situation. WG2 knows this (read between the lines for him) has thats why he motioned for Gilgamesh to be quite. As for Ulitmus and Guardian as they are simular power levels, in deed they could be of help but it wouldn't make a huge enough impat. their control medal shielding is also not has great has Dreadnoughts. Has mentioned before the only person who could help would be Angel, but 1 it would require Dreadnough to ask for help which he's not done yet. 2. how do you know she's not already busy with something? Quote
Spartan Warlord Posted June 13, 2007 Posted June 13, 2007 gilgamesh and dreddy may have personal issues buh rite now there are nothing compared to the fight there in...the grakken fleet is big enuff that they wudnt have to fight near each other...plus gilgamesh did have some training by W'Kar so he not nieve to his abilities... they need some more hard hitters GPZ is running out of steam and surely soon enuff so will WGV...dreddy may b able to restore there power buh only if hes able to get the chance... i mean if Dreddy can fight against the people that killed his wife he can fight alone side gilgamesh Quote
Sully Posted June 13, 2007 Author Posted June 13, 2007 gilgamesh and dreddy may have personal issues buh rite now there are nothing compared to the fight there in...the grakken fleet is big enuff that they wudnt have to fight near each other...plus gilgamesh did have some training by W'Kar so he not nieve to his abilities...they need some more hard hitters GPZ is running out of steam and surely soon enuff so will WGV...dreddy may b able to restore there power buh only if hes able to get the chance... i mean if Dreddy can fight against the people that killed his wife he can fight alone side gilgamesh In the end it really goes down to Gilgamesh would be killed too easily. And dispsite having a few training fights with W'Kar he's nothing on Dreadnought's skill level and to give an example. W'Kar could kill him in about 2 minutes just due to how well he knows his unit and now not so well Gilgamesh knows his. If you look at the people involved in the choice. You'd notice WG2 and Dreadnought both know it's going to be a hell of a fight, Dreadnought knowing he's going to be blown to bits a few times and that he'll be visiting hyperspace very often. Gilgamesh can't survive that. Maybe in a year or so after some hard faught battles he'd be ready to go against a fleet with a million plus Grakken and survive long enough to at least run for his life when the numbers get too much. Quote
W'Kar Posted June 13, 2007 Posted June 13, 2007 Gilgamesh will take time to figure out all the different aspects of his units. The Reproductions do not auto-escape like Warrior Units, the host has to will it so he needs to learn what he can handle and what he can't. Plus he needs to figure out how the weapons operate and work. He has no experience fighting Grakken, much less guyvers in general. There is alot that is not going for the guy, at least right now. He will become a very dangerous person once he's able to be. W'Kar is the most experienced warrior there actually, so though he's never fought grakken he can handle himself just fine. As far as Angel goes...well...maybe Quote
Spartan Warlord Posted June 13, 2007 Posted June 13, 2007 yeh that is true...more to a fighter than jus brute strength i wasnt finkin bout experiance... cudnt the rest of the ATCF warriors capable of teleporting do some mega smash hit and run tactics on the ships coming into the atmosphere like GPZ is doing then retreat away b4 they get caught in a fight...kinda like wen the Warrior Guyvers was doin to chronus b4 Eliminator showed up...it worked pretty well on them Quote
Sully Posted June 13, 2007 Author Posted June 13, 2007 yeh that is true...more to a fighter than jus brute strength i wasnt finkin bout experiance...cudnt the rest of the ATCF warriors capable of teleporting do some mega smash hit and run tactics on the ships coming into the atmosphere like GPZ is doing then retreat away b4 they get caught in a fight...kinda like wen the Warrior Guyvers was doin to chronus b4 Eliminator showed up...it worked pretty well on them (Spartan you can you please try not talking in txt has it's not something us older timers enjoy. E.g. It's before, not b4. Just take a little time before you post to re-read it a little) Has for the others, thats a nope too because lets say Warrior guyver two joined the battle. He'd at most be killing one Grakken/Grakken Destroyer even 5 to 15 minutes. maybe with stealth run attacks has you said he'd drop that down. Guaridian could bring that down to maybe every 2 to 6 minutes average. Dreadnought can do huge amounts of damage compared to them in a very short period of time equalling their total damage. So his average time would be 10 seconds on a normal Grakken. he doesn't need to stealth and before the Grakken gather enough firepower in one spot to hurt him their death count is very large. On the other hand all other weaker members than Guardian's level would be barely able to handle more than two Grakken at a time. Simply not worth the risk of their death for the little impact they are going to make. Quote
Spartan Warlord Posted June 13, 2007 Posted June 13, 2007 ok thats true... sorry im tryin my very hardest not to after the bollocking i got before its just habit...nearly failed my exmas because of it Quote
Juggernought Posted June 13, 2007 Posted June 13, 2007 Yea but even jason can't be that proud. Right now the main power houses that can cause the most damage is himself, possibly angel, w'kar, warrior guyver vamore and guyver powered zerebubuse and enforcer kavzar prime..perhaps even zues if he ever comes back from MIA and that unknown factor of the cloaked man who happened to be guyot i believe. He probably won't ask for the help but, a quick power boost from his matrix to GPZ and they can at least stave off a lot of the attack. By the way. Why isn't the ark firing away at the invasion? I know Tonnins up there protecting it, but shouldnt the navigator zoalords be able to control it without the help from the 12 or alkanphel Quote
Sully Posted June 13, 2007 Author Posted June 13, 2007 Yea but even jason can't be that proud. Right now the main power houses that can cause the most damage is himself, possibly angel, w'kar, warrior guyver vamore and guyver powered zerebubuse and enforcer kavzar prime..perhaps even zues if he ever comes back from MIA and that unknown factor of the cloaked man who happened to be guyot i believe. He probably won't ask for the help but, a quick power boost from his matrix to GPZ and they can at least stave off a lot of the attack. By the way. Why isn't the ark firing away at the invasion? I know Tonnins up there protecting it, but shouldnt the navigator zoalords be able to control it without the help from the 12 or alkanphel The Ark retreated, one spaceship which happens to have the comatose leader of Chronos inside V countless..... would you stay there? Quote
Juggernought Posted June 13, 2007 Posted June 13, 2007 Gud point....although they could drop off the cocoons by Alkanphel's island by the beach and the Ark would be back in action at least for a while. But i bet they are safest in the ark. Quote
Sully Posted June 13, 2007 Author Posted June 13, 2007 Yup, safe inside a bio-fortress which happens to have a being that rivals a Enforcer Kavzar protecting it. The Ark is staying out of their way and leaving the ground forces already at the Crash site to protect the Clan Ship. forgot to add, wrote another 2 more pages of excellent stuff but you guys will not be seeing it. About 2/3's the way through this part I'd say dpeending on if I get some insperation for another scene or two. Quote
guyverfanatic Posted June 13, 2007 Posted June 13, 2007 I'm sorry. How is Gilgamesh again? When will we get to see his datafile? Edit: *goes to re-read the fanfiction* Quote
W'Kar Posted June 13, 2007 Posted June 13, 2007 http://www.warriorguyver.com/wgfanfic/a ... mesh01.jpg He's got the W'Kar Reproduction Unit 1. Quote
guyverfanatic Posted June 13, 2007 Posted June 13, 2007 http://www.warriorguyver.com/wgfanfic/artwork/brian/gilgamesh01.jpgHe's got the W'Kar Reproduction Unit 1. Ok. What is the host's name? Quote
W'Kar Posted June 13, 2007 Posted June 13, 2007 Derek Prince. Read the last couple of 7 days fics and you'll know more. Quote
guyverfanatic Posted June 13, 2007 Posted June 13, 2007 Derek Prince.Read the last couple of 7 days fics and you'll know more. I'm gonna re-read it now so as to catch up on things. Quote
McAvoy Posted June 13, 2007 Posted June 13, 2007 For someone to be able to survive this huge fight of epic porportions is to have the power, survivability and experience. There are not alot of Guyvers or Zoalord that can claim that. Warrior Guyver Vamore and Guyver Powered Zerebubuse were ordered to do that. GPZ would have fallen anyway because he's the only one with a stamina limitation. Also, being a standard Guyver, means he is as vulnerable to attacks as a standard Guyver, just far more durable. Quote
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