Frost Posted September 3, 2007 Posted September 3, 2007 oey.. forgot that.. well he could always teleport a big asteroid in the clanship's place and cast an illusion over it and destroy / vaporise the rock thus making the Grakkens believe that the clanship is no more.. can he do that? Quote
McAvoy Posted September 3, 2007 Posted September 3, 2007 Actually that is a great point. Dreadnought has the ability to teleport anything with equal mass to another location. Now how he could do that, I have no clue, but maybee he could teleport an equal mass of rock from a mountain to that site. Maybe teleporting it in the middle of the planet. Quote
Frost Posted September 3, 2007 Posted September 3, 2007 Actually i was hoping he would teleport it to another planet and than cloak it using the spare Matrix or using his own abilities.. Quote
McAvoy Posted September 3, 2007 Posted September 3, 2007 He could cloak it but he would have to stay there for eternity or at least until he can figure out how to get a working internal (meaning a cloaking field under it's own power not Dreadnought or Matrix). Of course he has been so busy killing Grakkens that the thought hasn't occured to him. On the other hand, it was probably considered by the Matrix but rejected for some reason. Quote
*zeo Posted September 4, 2007 Posted September 4, 2007 Now how he could do that, I have no clue, but maybee he could teleport an equal mass of rock from a mountain to that site. Maybe teleporting it in the middle of the planet. Quantum Inverse Teleportation, basically an extension of quantum tunneling, which you might be more familiar with, and quantum entanglement effect in which conservation of energy is preserved by having equal quanta simply exchange places so the net difference is zero. It actually makes quantum teleportation easier as it takes little more energy than to set up the quantum field. So can be scaled to virtually any size scale that can be effected by the quantum field. Actually i was hoping he would teleport it to another planet and than cloak it using the spare Matrix or using his own abilities.. Well there is also the fact that the crash clan ship is probably the only reason they aren't laying waste to the whole planet. Which Jason would also have to consider if he decides to take the clan ship out of the equation. Quote
exscaped_pyscho Posted September 7, 2007 Posted September 7, 2007 Jason could switch the ship with a mountain from mars then use his cloaking systems to make it appear as if the ship was still there not the mountain. Although if Jason takes the extra Matrix and simpley commands it to create something that will protect the clan ship from the grakkens, or even better protect the entire planet from the Grakken, it could seriously help his situation out considerably. Although he might want to think about more then the Grakken if he's goin to be doing something like that. Maybe some kind of Massive shield or cloaking field placed over the entire planet (although the planet would have to be moved first for that one to work). I wonder what the power requirments for something like that to work would be? Any speculation on the subject? Quote
Aranor Posted September 7, 2007 Posted September 7, 2007 The main problem with that is time. Something Jason does not have right now and that includes time to think about something like that. Let's say you were at a bar and got in a fight with three hundred bikers. Would you have time to think about the blonde at the end of the bar sitting by herself? Probably not. That is the kind of predicament Jason is in only magnified by three million or so. And now a river gang is possibly approaching. Quote
Juggernought Posted September 8, 2007 Posted September 8, 2007 Would you have time to think about the blonde at the end of the bar sitting by herself? Probably not. Actually i would be thinkin about not gettin my ass beat infront of her....especially if i was tryin to rap to that Quote
Frost Posted September 8, 2007 Posted September 8, 2007 Lolz oO Yeah wonder which hollywood babe she would look like.. Pamela? Quote
Aranor Posted September 9, 2007 Posted September 9, 2007 Alright...bad example. How about being attacked by a hundred brawlers and trying to remember which beer bottle on which table was yours. And the blnde is a transexual who just joined the fight against you. Quote
McAvoy Posted September 9, 2007 Posted September 9, 2007 Makes sense. Fighting makes me thirsty. Then again I have met some transexuals that are bigger than most guys. Remember guys that Dreadnought has a Matrix that allows him to make extremely fast fraction of a second decisions. In fact, I am willing to bet that the Matrix has already figured out that the best course of action is just keep in fighting. Quote
Aranor Posted September 9, 2007 Posted September 9, 2007 Wow.....not sure if I want to ask or not....... Quote
McAvoy Posted September 9, 2007 Posted September 9, 2007 Ahem. I meant met as in talked to or run into one. Remember that I am in the Navy and I have been to many places all over the world. Some of them you can't even tell they're transexuals unless they speak or you notice 'something' that isn't supposed to be there. Quote
Aranor Posted September 10, 2007 Posted September 10, 2007 I was suposed to go into the navy, Advanced Eletronics technician. MEPS sent me home due to recurring ingrown toe nail............ I congratulate you on serving during these times. Back to topic, I think Jason simply hasn't the time to think. Sure he can pause time but how much good does it do when he can not move about and interact? His mind is simply held up with "Stop them from getting the ship." Quote
McAvoy Posted September 10, 2007 Posted September 10, 2007 I agree. If the reflex speed of Dreadnought varies betwene 1,000x to 4,000x wouldn't time seem slow for him, like everyone is moving in slow mo? Just curious. Hell, going Mach 50 will make everyone seem slow as well. Quote
Aranor Posted September 10, 2007 Posted September 10, 2007 Indeed it will. Just like doing 90 on the interstate then taking the offramp and having to do 40. Makes you feel like you are crawling. But the sheer numbers is just overwhelming. Especially going from the vast void of space, even if it is just outside of the atmosphere, to with the atmosphere. Almost like taking the battle from 3D to 2D. Quote
Sully Posted September 10, 2007 Author Posted September 10, 2007 Just remember the first time Guyver US and Guyver 1 fought a Grakken. They are not known for holding their anger well.... Teleporting that ship out of the way, you might as well say "open season on Earth". Even IF the Creators arrived there are soooo many Grakken's on Earth and around it that they could do major damage before getting killed. To the Grakken their goal is simply the units and destroy anything and everything in it's way. They will litrally fight until the last person to get it and are all willing to die to do so would rip apart everything in the SOL system to find whats on that Clan Ship. Quote
McAvoy Posted September 10, 2007 Posted September 10, 2007 Which supports that the second fleet is not Grakken but the Creator fleet. Earth is a protected planet under the Creators and on top of that even if the Grakkens get a prototype Warrior Guyver unit that could drastically boost their power once they reverse engineer it. Quote
Frost Posted September 13, 2007 Posted September 13, 2007 What if the Grakkens got their paws on a black nova unit? how strong will a Grakken be? the reclic is still in China, underwater..though only Dreadnought is aware of it's location.. Hmmm will they be happy with one warrior unit or do they want it all? also i am sure the Creators pretty much want a piece of the pie.. Quote
Spartan Warlord Posted September 13, 2007 Posted September 13, 2007 What about the AAR it could possible be them...or since its a different universe some other kind of Rebels...im hoping it is the creators thought would mix things up real nice...atleast we know tthat the world survived...but im curious to see who may have died Quote
Frost Posted September 13, 2007 Posted September 13, 2007 You know you may be right since if Wg characters were duplicated than what is to prevent the AAR or rather all those individuals who participated in the Meeting of Warriors story line final fight from being duplicated as well? in fact the Artharisis may also have been duplicated he may still be stuck "in between" Quote
McAvoy Posted September 13, 2007 Posted September 13, 2007 Doubt it. If you think about it, the AAR wasn't there during the Atrahasis fight and even if they were duplicated they wouldn't be concerning themselves with Earth affairs. if they were not duplicated they would try to get a in a fire fight in another universe where their existence in another is in extreme danger. They wouldn't dwindle their forces like that. So either they are the Grakkens or the Creators coming through those new wormholes. Or it could be a totally new force that we have not seen yet, considering that Humans and the Grakkens are not the only species messed with by the Creators. But I would find this unlikely. Quote
Frost Posted September 15, 2007 Posted September 15, 2007 Yesh yesh you are right on that point.. any hint by Sully on this? Quote
McAvoy Posted September 15, 2007 Posted September 15, 2007 He really suggested nothing. I still think it's the Creators. Why would they not help defend the Clanship from the Grakkens? Why would they allow even a slim chance of the Grakken getting some sort of advanced technology. Quote
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