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The Zeus upgrade was created when Agito found a ship and used the "Genesis Project". I don't believe it was said if the vessel was absorbed during the process or not so would Agito be able to return to the vessel to further enhance his unit or is he stuck as he is. If, after learning how to use the Zeus upgrade and having found quirks, he could get rid of them and install some things he now wishes he could do or get rid of this and add that. He could give Dreadnaught a run for his money.

I voted W'Kar because his strength, speed and ability to remain calm and witty give him an edge over nearly everything that comes his way. And then when he does get pissed off....well turns into Anubis and destroys every living thing in the universe. As for XT, I did not think of him when I voted, having missing answers is not necessarily a bad thing. Look at Wolverine. It is what distinguishes him from all the other characters. XT has the knowledge of ages and the skills of thousands of battles. This alone makes him a deadly adversary. Coupled with his strengths he would definitely be my second choice.

Would be interesting. A type of "Legendary Black Knight" sort of tale.

For any who have not seen this. Imagine going on the first vacation in seventeen years leaving knowing your teens are mature enough to take care of themselves though the word by which they are titles contradicts that thought. You come home all relaxed, step out the back door and ...... http://www.geekologie.com/2007/01/girl_ ... g_shot.php Heart attack anyone?

I agree with you all the way. Having to put a book down to figure out what is happening and then try and get back into the book again usually leaves me picking the book up again some time later. Might I suggest Robert Jordan's "The Wheel of Time" series. Twelve books..... Kind of like "Lord of the Rings" only....more. He constantly moves you about the world throughout each book until a huge climax at the end. The jumping around leaves you wanting more of that chapter but the next is usually just as good as the last. He even has a book in which the main character is barely mentioned.

Ok, here's a thought. Let us say the Hulk manages to kill Doomsday. He obviously does not have the capability to spread every Doomsday atom into different portions of the universe so Doomsday will lie there dead. The damage done to the body might be less than what has been done many many many many many times before. So recovery would not take long. the foe which defeated him seemed to grow stronger as aggression increases so Doomsday's body grows the means to do this as well. So now we have a Doomsday that increases in strength as it grows madder. Along with everything else about him. No one would stand a chance.

They've got some pretty shifty nit on there.

Wasn't sure if he used that name here or not. Too bad more people don't try to make things like that.

Wow I was way off. Thanks Zeo. Ok, I found my mistake. I was using one light year as the total distance. Going by what was on Wiki I have 240 Kilometers per second x60 x60 x24 x 364 = (7547904000 kilometers travelled in one year) 27000 light years. ( Rough distance from core) 299792.458 Kilometer per second = speed of light. 1079252848.8 Kilometers per hour 25902068371.2 Kilometers per day 9,428,352,887,116.8 KPY = one light year in Kilometers. 254,565,527,952,153,600 = diameter of our suns rotation around core 799,335,757,769,762,304 = circumference Circumference divided by distance travelled in one year equals 105,901,685.7885 Earth years to rotate once around galactic core at our distance.

They owed the humans until the point which the task was completed. Now that their existance is saved they owe nothing. They knew the one who would become the warrior Guyver would save them, the entity had no choice as the task had already been done. Without dissuasion and intervention, allowing things to go as they would, all they had to do was wait. Now that the sweet is wiped from their brows they can continue to do as they please. with some resistance of course. While the thought of Jason saving them might bring feelings of you owe us one. The creators are resposible for the human race being as it is. In their minds their subjects might owe them their existance.

Just saw the blog post on myspace, the guy over at bioweapons.com is starting work on the Guyver 3 armor. No pics up yet.

They both have vast regenerative abilities. Doomsday I do not know the speed of but I know the Hulk puts wolverine to shame. It was shown Hulk healed so fast his fingeres were enclosed within the wound and he had to rip them out. Yes, Doomsday was defeated. But it took smarts to wear him down. And yet, he will recover. The time it takes for him to recover is dependent on the amount of damage done. Supermans fist only damaged bone and flesh. None of his body was blown apart or anything of the sort. Thus recovery should have been a short time. Being encased slowed this down but he was sent to the end of time to be sure he was no longer a threat to anything. We do not know the extend to which the Hulk can recover. If his head is smashed in that might be it for him. Or his body could be able to recover from a single cell. We don't know. Thor can keep Hulk at bay normally, even with his belt doubling his strength that is somewhere around 200 tons. Superman if beyond that. Doomsday tired out and beat Superman in his own environment. Hulk is great, no doubt, but Thor has broken his bones, and Doomsday hits harder than Thor. The last hit between the two of them was enough to blow the windows out of the nearby windows. Not sure how far away. And lets face it, the Hulk does not exactly grow smarter as he gets madder.

Here's part of the next part of 95157 95157 floats in the vaccuum of space staring at the vast void. To the life on Eyom it is a God. An eternal entity capable of watching down and forever protecting them. They offered it various items which to them hold great value. To it they are nothing more than a combination of miscelaneous molecules. Nothing much matters. The constant thought of destroying the creators and anything using their technology to avenge what was done to it's race has been shattered. Other life shares the hatred for them that it has. Those who don what has been made from it's race are not responsible for it. It was forced upon them as unwittingly as the raping was done to it. Any hope of recovering it's former brethren are gone. Those that exist now are grown within a laboratory. They have been genetically engineered to their specifications. They are not what they once were. While it can continue its fight against them they appears to be no real form of satisfaction left. If it stops them who will know of its deeds. The people on the world below? Perhaps. Their gratitude will never fill the void inside that longs form contact with its own kind. A void as vast as the one he floats in. Perhaps, not allowing its pain to be forced upon another is enough. "I will continue." It detects a wormhole opening. A single cloaked ship emerges before it closes. 95157 rests there paying it little attention. He can feel its sensors trying to read it. It lets off a small disturbance field forcing the ship to find false readings if any. Confident in its ability to not be seen it moves closer attempting to read it with a stronger signal and reading what has happened on the planet. It releases a small probe to examine the planet in greater detail. The probe is capable of creating a contained wormhole within it allowing it to send data to near infinite reaches of the void instantly. Mapped regions anyway. The ships moves in closer to the planet. It nearly pushes 95157 out of the way. It grabs the side of the ship digging its claws in. All fours arms and both legs dig in. Its wings fold up as its tail splits in two. Both ends emit their high powered lasers and begin cutting a circle into the hull. It detects an alarm going off inside. The hols complete it uses its gravity control system to pull itself and the round piece of hull off the ship. It lets go leaving the piece to shivel and decay as it floats through space. The green fluids retaining the ships outer layer flow for a few moments before they seal and begin closing the hole. 95157 crawls in. Two armored beings are making their way down the corridor. Its tails rejoin as one. The two armored beings stop stunned at what they see. They had heard rumors. It takes the opportunityand moves in grabbing one by the chest and neck. The other steps back as the arms reach for it. The one it has fires shoulder mounted lasers at it to no avail. The creature simply ignores the damage. A quick jerk of the upper arm forces a cracking sound. What little spine the entity has is broken. The lasers stop. The free entity is calling for help to any who can hear it. Its mental reach is vast but the only ones to hear are those on the ship and the thing before it. Perhaps some of those who are armored on the planet. A blast of three lasers from its upper left hand takes most of the head and upper chest off. The creatures control medal is destroyed. It looks to the one it is holding. The eyes are glowing again. The neck is close to being healed. Small bones regenerate quickly. A glimmer of satisfaction fills it as it reaches for and grabs the control medal. The entity screams as the device is ripped from its armor. The organic device covering its body, developed to be immune to their boi electric bodies, begins to devour what little there is. The bio electric gel that is most of their form begins to evaporate as the energy dissipates. The carapace's covering its lower front torso open as tentacles reach out grabbing the control medal. The tentacle retract, the plates moving back into place. Inside a link is established attempting to access the medal. Three hundred eighty-sevel four hundred three encrypted entries and it is granted. These newer control medals have higher security standards. With access it begins assessing everything within. Some ship designs it did not know about including the one it is standing in. Some of the newer armor designs, control medal standards and abilities. Better energy management. Those it can use it begins applying. Those it can not are stored. The physical properties of the control medal are separated and a controlled portal to the boost opens withing its torso. The pieces are placed within and the portal closes. A pocket in the boost which is stores excess materials for quicker regeneration. Possible materials for adding to itself should the need arise. Or perhaps creating something. Whatever the need should be, the materials are there. Much easier than manifesting them from energy concentrations. The cry for help was not unheard as three more entities come down the hall. The ships specs reveal a crew of seven on these class-E8 scout ships. The control medals on these three will offer it little to no more than the one it digested. It puts its upper right hand out opening the plates within its palm revealing a small smasher cell. Only half the size of the new ones used in the upper torso area it is sufficient. A burst of white energy erupts from the cell creating a tube of energy as wide as 95157's shoulders. Without the need to allow room for a host it's body utilises the space for additional energy supply. Its palm smasher cells are as powerful as one of their upper torso cells. The brief burst. ends revealing one scorched soldier remaining. The lower legs and hands of the other two are on the floor. A hole in the wall at the end of the hall letting bio material flood onto the floor. The one left is crouched over. The amount of pain the soldier is recieving matters not. 95157 walks up to it reaching down. The soldier falls back in a desparate attempt to get out of reach. Through telepathic channels 95157 listens as it screams for mercy. How many times did it scream while being torn apart and mercilessly forced back together. No. No mercy. It reaches down grabbing the soldier by the ankle and swings hard. Its body his the side of the hall as its leg is ripped from its hip. The knee broken in the process. The thigh dangles from the portion it holds. It dropps the useless limb. The soldier manages to turn onto its stomach and tries to crawl away. 95157's tail reaches into the open wound digging in as the soldier screams louder. The six claws open inside it exploding its waist and stomach region. With its upper left hand it grabs the soldiers head and squeazes. The armor plating holds but the soft material beneath it does not. The screaming seases as bio energy oozes from between the plates. It lets it loose and grabs the control medal squeazing it until it shatters. 95157 walks the corridors making its way to the control room. It commands the sphincter like opening to let him through. It tries to open and shuts tight. It commands it to open. Another on the other side is commanding it to remain shut. All four arms out it fires the twelve laser around the doorway. The door opens as the muscular tissue relaxes. The soldier steps back firing its shoulder lasers as the creature before it. The lasers burn their way in but the creature ignores them. Behind the soldier is the pilot. Also armored the pilot can not currently move. Its control medal is extended, linked with the ship. It knows the creature is within the ship but needs to reroute its senses back to its body to disconnect. 95157 again fires the twelve lasers, this time into the soldier before it. The soldiers limbs fall off singeing bio matter smoulder filling the room. Its own lasers removed. It mentally pulls its limbs back. Its healing ability is slow. The blades on the forearms extend though the limbs are not usable yet. 95157 extends its lower arm swords digging them into the soldiers lower torso. It pulls its arms together slicing the soldiers body in half. Its upper arms catch the soldeir by the shoulders. It rears back and head butts the soldiers head. The soldiers head is crushed. It steps on its head driving its control medal through its skull into the floor below. The control medal survives the weight only because of the softer matter making the floor. 95157 grabs the pilot ripping its mind from the ship. The control medal flashes violently. Its body falls limp. 95157 links with the ship. The pilots mind still within resists the creature. 95157 sends a mental stream of data, the pain it experienced during of eight hundred seventy three planetary revolutions. The pilots mind shrivels into some dark corner no longer hindering it. It searches for any clue as to the nearest creator colony. Stiruis system. forty-three light years away. It scans the navigation spheres for any information it does not have. Some new systems. Nothing more. Disconnected it sends a smasher beam into the front of the ship. It flies out into the void. Turns itself around and opens its wings. Its tail extends itself down by its feet opening the six claws facing the ship. All four arms out with palms open in a cross pattern. Its wings slowly begin to glow. Brighter and brighter until 85157 can no longer be seen. Its chest carapace's open as do the ones in its palms. Four chest cells, four hand cell, and one cell within its tail fire upon the ship, the blast supplied by the energy collected within the wings. Seven tecos the blast lasts. When done its tail closes and goes limp. Its body is nearly drained. The remaining blast continues on into space. The ship is no more. Most of the atoms making it up are gone, returned to their energy which makes them up. 95157 rests allowing its body to heal from the stress of energy which had flowed through it. All energy channels expanded and burned from within. The damage does not last long. Stiruis system. Its wings begin to glow once again. This time energy it fcused into the gravitation system. The magnetic field of every atom within its body now focused into a single field of unidirectional force it takes off at speeds near that of light. The ever increasing force of magnetism allowing it to increase as more and more energy is focused. Some form of energy gathers creating a blue and black vortex. With no time to react 95157 soares into it. The blue dominates the black emptiness of the void. It's momentum suddenly stopped, every atom in its body wanting to shatter. It finds it can not move. Three large featurless ovals slowly manifest before it. Two large ovals form within each of the three where eyes should be. "Little one. Welcom." the voice has carries no emotion.

The hulk has to reach that point first. From the simple state of "Hulk Angry. Hulk hate being angry. Hulk smash things. Hulk no feel better! Hulk smash more things!" To a state in which he could take on one of the strongest entities in the known universe will take some time. Granted Hulk has been reported to have held up a mountain but superman is no wimp. And Doomsday is supposedly stronger than superman with greater stamina. The downsides to Doomsday is that he can not fly and is slower in a heavier medium such as water. Hulk possesses these same limitations. And don't foget, Doomsday has evolved. Many many many many many many times. And this was before the Kryptonian race evolved to their advances state and blew up their world. So doomsday has the advantage of having evolved throughout aeons. While Hulk grows stronger with more rage I don't think his body grow more rigid. His defensively thick skin is only so thick. The only advatage I can see the hulk having is by breaking Doomsdays external bones forcing him to slow down momentarily. Also, Hulk would be fighting something that moves as fast as superman can. Supermans speed is on par with Flash. Or pretty close anyway. That strength combined with that speed will leave Hulk pummelled into something resembling a ninja turtle shell.

Alright guys, trying to figure out the speed at which our galaxy moves for a part of the 95157 fic. Using that as a universal measurement of time. Here is what I have. Our location (Earth) is approximately 28,000 light years from the center of our galaxy. This gives us a diameter of 56,000 light years. A circumference of 175840 light years. (56,000 X 3.14) (One rotation) A web site I found http://www.pd.astro.it/E-MOSTRA/NEW/A5005MWY.HTM estimates at our lateral distance we travel at approximately 28 kilometers per second. So, one light year, 299792.458 Kilometers per second / 28 KPS = 10706.8735 seconds to reach one rotation. / 60 = 177.447 minutes. / 60 = 2.974 hours to reach the distance light travels in one second? Do I have that right or am I full of sh#*ty numbers? If I have that right it would take 10706 hours to reach one light year. Multiply that by the circumference and I get 214902.1735 years for one galactic rotation at our currenct distance. .....If I got that right I'm buying myself a beer.....

My bad. It does state he can store solar radiation like supermans body. So, either way Doomsday hands down.

First thoughts are where is this fight taking place? If it is somewhere in the proximity of the yellow sun. Doomsday hands down. If it is elsewhere Hulk might have a chance. Here's why I think so. Read how Doomsday was created on the DC datafiles pages. Hulk needs to get pissed to grow stronger. Doomsday is pissed off incarnate. While superman was a simple entity enhanced by the yellow sun Doomsday was a weapon of Kryptonian life that was enhanced by the yellow sun. It was simply the amount of time Kal-el spent in the yellow sun growing up that allowed him to last so long against Doomsday. While hulk is extremely tough, his flesh is not invulnerable. If Doomsday could penetrate Superman's flesh with his claws he could tear through the Hulks. And while the Hulk can achieve infinite strength that we know of. He has to reach that point. Doomsday already has the near unlimited strength Supermans has and will only grow stronger the more time he spends under the yellow sun. If Doomsday were to never have reached the yellow sun and Hulk encountered him in another solar system then I think he might have a chance. However I do not know how strong Doomsday is without the yellow sun. The means by which he was created and recreated is pretty messed up.

Maybe the predator species get pregnant through oral sex........ Judging by their faces that could be messy.......

I agree, merging two of the same ship together will give you no advantage other than small differences within two. Spec wise if be of no advantage. However if the ship is different from the one the gigantic came from it might offer some advantage. For instance, Sho merging with the ancient relic, should he merge with a updated war ship might offer a new layer of strength. Or perhaps merging with a different form of ship, science vessel, scout ship, might be able to combine with the rest of the CM's speculated to reside within the coccoon to reform the gigantic. Making the third layer bigger with the two vessels combined. A scout ship might offer more or better senses. A science vessel perhaps the ability to grow new units. That would be something.

Perhaps not to the point of being able to feel the hologram however an interactable hologram is not that far fetched. We do have this little gadget on the market http://www.virtual-laser-keyboard.com/?an=google Granted it measurs distance of the blocked light in order to guess which key your are supposed to be hitting but it is stil interacting with light.

I left this one kind of full of holes. The fic I am going to write will fill in a lot. Awehsohs senee-ki-wakw (The giant stone bear) Human name: Red Bear. Currently using Redgie Bearing. Guyver name: Odyn Age: 1,007 Earth years. Height: 2.286 meters/7 feet 6 inches in human form. 2.7432 meters/ 9 feet armored. Weight: 247.66kg (546lbs) 1386.6kg (3057lbs) armored 146 - 820 Strength: His human strength is altered due to a couple of factors. First being he has suffered from Gigantism. Thus his human strength is increased to six humans. After creator intervention his human body has been altered to equal the strength of a human bonded guyver. 1X His body being altered limits the increase factor to a magnification of ten times hosts base. A total strength of 10X at bonding. His unit however is experimental and grows in strength as it is used like a human body. Speed: Top land speed is four times the speed of sound. 3076MPH. Top flight speed is unknown as host has ability to turn into a spectre and travel the astral realm making him intangable thus no drag due to physical matter. Same applies to ground travel, speed in such a state is unknown. Weapons: The unit has a standard forward facing vibrational blade along with two others on the sides of the wrist. These two extend out and forward forming a cresent shape parallel to the extended hand joining to form a single blade similar to a Katar. The forward facing blade is perpendicular to these and extends a foot farther. The two react as one when triggered, the one responds independantly. On the lower legs are two vibrational ports which when extended form a form fitting shield extended a couple of inches from the lower legs. There are also a similar port on the outer upper legs sides of the upper arms, behind the shoulders, one on the lower back, and one on the back of each wrist. Each of these forms a shield like the lower legs, when the host is squatting and all are activated they join with one another forming a perfect sphere around the unit. This combined with the gravity controller allow the unit to act as a cannon ball of sorts creating massive amounts of non energy damage without damaging the host. Unit can concentrate energy to reinforce shielding making it stronger and applying energy to the point of contact. Head laser is different. Eight laser barrels are placed around the units control medal. Each is capable of moving for aiming though all fire at the same time. The barrels will not move to the point of risking the control medal. When needed the barrels turn inward spreading the beam to create a laser field in front of the control medal. Pressure cannon is dependant on hosts focus. Normally starting around five times normal. Mega smashers are dependant on hosts focus but begin at five times normal. Gravity controller system is divinded into four. Each positioned in the cardinal directions around the units waist. This adds to the units ability to move quicker and alter its direction from forward to revers or any directional change within .0001 seconds. Hosts abilities: As a shaman Red Bear is capable of walking the spirit/astral world and manipulating energies for a desired outcome. While these energies are not limited to one aspect the outcome is dependant on his focus. After augmentation the strength of this manipulation is increased a hundred fold allowing him control over these energies in the physical world to a great degree. Armored form again increases this control. Some abilities are telekinesis, elemental atunement of energy, spirit reading, healing, physically entering the astral realm making his body intangible and able to pass through matter. Able to see, hear, smell, taste, feel the astral and physical realm at the same time allowing him much higher sensing ability than morst creatures. Living or otherwise. Hosts history: Host was born to human Abenaki woman during the Earth year 984AD in the land that would become known as the United States/Canada. Host suffered from gigantism making him abnormally large. Proportionally his body grew normal. At the height of 7'6" his body stopped growing externally but internal organs continued. His shaman mentor deemed it time for him to meet the great spirits whom have been most interested in the large human. Great spirits augmented Red Bear halting the excessive growth hormone and combining crystals along with other organic enhancing materials within his body. Hosts natural psionic abilities are enhanced by the great spirits augmentation.

That would all depend on how the creators age. In the fics they worked on Earth seemingly after they performed experiments on numerous other planets. Not sure if it was the same entity/ies doing the work on all the planets but to perform ultiple experiments millions of years at a time (They supposedly guided evolution to form humans) then I would go along with one million equals one year. Perhaps less. If it was different entities working on each planet then the ten year.

Or perhaps a fully rendered 3D environment allowing you to physically interact with. Kind of like Star Trek's Holodeck.

We do have the second production model being passed around. Speaking of that, if it took Grend a million years to produce the element, how much of it was made and how much was used in the W'kar unit? The second unit is said to have been in testing for seven years.

Indeed. If one has troubles finding their keys in the morning can you imagine looking for your molecular diamond digital music player?