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Just read through "Meeting the warriors" Greg did state that his unit was able to pick up fm radio waves. Possibly a result of broadening of the telepathic spectrum. (When Greg and Jason are talking with Cassandra in the coccoon.

I know the armor brings the host to its peak performance. But only for its current state. Two people of two different sizes are going to have to different potentials. Consider it like an engine. To start with it has A for horsepower. Get the pistons bored out and new cylinders and you now have B horsepower due to more fuel/air being combusted. I know I have read the arguement of a human is a human and their potentials are the same. I would like to think they are not. You and I could be of two different heights, the difference in mass means less energy required for the shorter of us to move meaning a higher potential for stamina yet greater potential for strength in the taller of us. By allowing the matrix to alter his height or amount of muscle his human form has, keeping him human it should allow for his body to retain more bio energy increasing the output of the armor.

I agree it would be nice to see Jason access the wealth of information within the matrix. During times of battle however thoughs of specific knowledge may not be the focus of the mind. Perhaps the thoughts of "How do I kill these damned things!" But then is he is killing them then the thought is contradictory. As for making him more powerful, since he does not want to become anything other than human, how about making him more human? If the bio boost effects uses the amount of energy the host can stand, such as the amount of strength a human has is based on the amount of muscle, increase his size. I'm not talking make him fifteen feet tall with ten foot wide shoulders but a simple increase in mass. Let's say the bio boost increases strength by a multiple of 50. Average joe lifting 200 lbs, a bit high but anyway, 200 lbs X 50 = 10,000 lbs. Increase his mass by 5% 210 lbs X 50 = 10,500 lbs. The strength and speed alone from that could be deadly. And still leave him no bigger than most humans. Hell, imagine Ondre the Giant with a unit? Or Ronnie Coleman.

So basically it would act like the wariior guyvers shields? Absorbing energy and allowing it to be reused in some fashion. Would be kinda neat to have some material within the unit that could do this, absorbing the energy of a mega smasher redirecting it to be shot back say through the hands and then follow up with its own smasher. Kind of a two for one. Best I got.

That is what I am trying to get at. But are Alkenphals mental abilities equal to a single creators?

As advanced as the matrix is I would almost think it should not allow him to alter is or the info it gives him without more knowledge of what it is doing thus removing the ability for the host to damage itself/unit/matrix. Though the matrix is an AI I am sure it has some sort of self destruct inhibiting program. Especially to keep a host from doing something it shouldn't.

For the sake of story wise. Are the creators weakiling in both physical strength and mental abilitis thus they created something extremely powerful knowing they could control it until the guyver effect took place or are they themselves strong mentally and just don't want to fight thus they created powers similar to theirs only not as strong so their creations could be controlled? Either means could have two very different outcomes. For all we know under their armor they could look like Flan's (Final Fantasy) with the mental ability to make earth ripple like tidle waves.

Ok, let's say Alkanphel and a creator came one on one. Alkaphel summons a black hole to suck the creator to who knows where. Would the creator be able to over power him and close the black hole? They did summon a big assed rock to destroy earth. We know now of how much energy or how many creators it took to summon it. Or is they used tools to do so.

I know about their physical weakness. I guess my question should have been, is it possible they are many times more powerful energy manipulation wise than Alkanphel. I know he was their "Prime" creation but I have not heard if that was simply physical or both.

I'm just curious, if the creators gave Alkanphel their powers, how powerful could we guess a single creator is? I'm sure they would have left some means of overpowering him? Unless it was by shear numbers.

Prime Directives: 1: Serve the public trust. 2: Protect the innocent. 3: Uphold the law. 4: Any attempt to arrest a senior officer of OCP results in shutdown. 5: Destroy all plasmoid species.

All good ideas. But in the end it is Gelionlegions character idea. So its up to him.

Ok, allow me to restate what I am trying to to achieve. Gelionlegends is looking to create a scouting type guyver unit. My thoughts to do so are to use a ship other than the one which came to earth in the mange. A ship which holds units designed for different functions. One being a unit designed for prolonged exposure in space with defense capabilities but powers more focused on detecting other life forms and determining whether they are a threat. To do so it would need to understand their level of technology. The unit could hold an orb which scans the area through an array of frequencies. Once an advanced species is discovered should the unit be able to find a remotely accessed it can attempt to analyze the form of signal transmitting or recieved by the technology and possibly recreate the signal in hopes of accessing the device. Biological or mechanical. Should it be able to decode the signal it could establish remote access from itself to further seek information. Unit does not necessarily need a human host. Scanners is a great analogy. Jake two point o is another. Though a bit low bugdet the concept applies.

And that would be up to GelionLegions which direction he would want to go. When the parallel world of the W'kar was formed that was pretty much reinventing how the tale goes. Who's to say it could not have gone other ways? Amd just because the creators are of higher intelligence does not mean they did not have classes amongst them. In GWOTG that aspect has been used. Though beit they all died anyway. All but two we know of.

I'm almost curious if the people in the fic are nothing more than a domesticated (Poor chioce but only one I could think of) form of lycanlords. The need to feed so much bread out of them and a more civilized mentally.

If you look at my first post in this thread that was exactly what I was pointing to. Istead of the unit having been designed for war it could be designed for scouting and information gathering. I am simply trying to offer Gelionlegends a means for the technology to work.

I would be willing to bet viruses are something they had to deal with a great bit. Especially being organic technology. I hate it when I sneeze and my mega smashers go off. Your talking about chronos trying to use new technology on more advanced. Of course that would take forever. As for other sciene fiction realms you also have Star Trek's universal translater which seems to be able to perfectly translate the language of any species they stumble upon. Beit with a little tweaking. The human host would already have some deal of knowledge about our technology even if it is limited to playing a video game. The concept of what the device can do would be coming from the host. It would simply be the translating of signals. I know there are millions of combinations and frequencies out there. There are also trillions of neurons in the body which the armor is interfacing with. And this is being done with a unit smaller in size thant he power plug of the IBM super computer I showed. Not to mention it is a technology never meant to be used by humans. Nor were humans developed to be used within the armor. They simply tried the two and said ah crap whad did we do? Even though to transmit signals and recieve them it takes a descrambler they are everywhere and quite small. Cell phones, Ipods, PAD's, car radios, satelite recievers. I've even worked on microchips that can develop digital images on the chip itself removing the need for storage or film within a camera. (New Kodak technology) The equipment needed for deciphering these codes is getting smaller and smaller. The armor has already shown this type of ability by allowing the user to see through walls. Basically, and again I am guessing on this, it would have to filter the subtle frequencies coming from the wall from those of the items behind it. If it can sort the frequencies from atoms why not with a little guidance from the host search radio waves? I know the movies are bad examples of information but in the 2nd movie it showed Sean in the creator ship when communicating, a red beam shining on his control medal. (Not sure if that was in the manga or not) This would resemble similar technology to our remot controls, DVD/CD burners/readers. Which is not that far from the way hard drives are read. We know the CM can hold massive amounts of data. Host DNA along with faults and memories. But we do not know how much memory space within the cm this uses. And if Takaya wanted to create a unit that could pull planets he would have thought up Anubis. Which is why these are fan fics.

I was not trying to say that the brain could read radio waves. Simply meant to show that a transmission tower sends singals, a radio picks them up. Telepathy is one mind sending signals another picking them up. The concept is similar not the methods. Can you show me where it states that the CM is strictly DNA reading technology? I simply do not recall seeing that. You are right, our current technology can not decipher the thoughts of the human or any mind. Is takes patterns and transforms them into signals as you said. Which is what I am suggesting the CM could do should it be capable of scanning the functionality of others technology. Again the creators are not around in the comics/anime to show us the true limits of the control medal. Most of what I am suggesting is a what if scenario but it has yet to be shown that the "what if" is not possible.

As it was stated the creator tech is millions, if not billions of years ahead of ours. If the cm can allow telepathic communication between Sho and Agito from Tokyo to Arizona (I believe that is where they were when Agito took the gigantic from Sho), can materialize atomic structures (theorising this based on it being able to regenerate a host with a simple sample of DNA and no raw materials to use other than energy) then why would scanning frequencies of remote access computers analysing the and cracking the code be that far fetched? Especially when a Zoalord can mentally control an army of Zoanoids. Basically the same thing except one is living and more complex. Telepathic communication is little more than an tapped radio signal. We do already have machines which can transfer patterns of though to movements of a computer mouse or robotic hand. http://www.emotiv.com/ Here is one of the many forms out there in its infancy stage.

I wouldn't say they are dumb. Simply lacking the drive to power them. The latest IBM Blue Gene L http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/6241566.stm Can process 100 trillion calculations per second. Granted it is huge but with a sound AI it could do some amazing things. Of course with an AI it still relies on someone inputing data so yeah it would be dumb but in the useless sense as a car tire is until it moves you along at 55 mph. As for what I was pertaining to is if the control medal could act as an interface between host mind and computer using some sort of remote contact. Current level technolgies use wires for such things but who knows what the limits of the creator tech was/is.

I doubt that would be the result as the cm should be following the will of the host. Unless of course the hosts mind is obliterated and the cm is taking control.

Keep in mind the armor's which we write about are also based on the ones we have been shown by the originator. The possibility of other models has not been rejected nor confirmed. One aspect for your solar scout guyver (Two threads down) could be a different model. Rather than made for war it could be for stealth and information gathering. Having its cm designed to scan and determine the functionality of other computing systems as it encounters them just as one could scan a human and find broken bones hear rate etc. To our knowledge this is not something the current units can not do. We simply don't know what the cm if fully capable of as there are no creators around to show us.

You may want to check out the inverse-square law of light. Basically the farther away from a star the less energy will be available to your character. Also why Superman loses some of his strength the longer he is away from our solar system. I would almost suspect that the boost dimension draining system is similar to solar but more efficient. As with Superman different radiations might offer different potencies of energy for your character. If it is going to be a scout I would resort to something more abundant. There's a whole lotta space out there between stars. Perhaps extra gravity orbs to draw in more energy allowing it to function for longer periods of time and possibly sacrificing some strength for increased speed. Travelling from planet to planet might be pretty tiring.

Face is going to be a little different due to the lack of host. No need for breathing tubes. The two plates below the eyes are actually three, one on the other side, the jaw opens in the positions. Almost like a reverse version of the things from blade two. Two upward moving jaws and one lower. The eyes are basically sensory orbs. I also put one on either side of the head. Two sensor horns.

I drew a second pic for 95157. This one took me a while. No color though. http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/60620515/