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The problem for IT is the same problem faced by the Creators with the tool they created. It's that it can't affect the control medal when active and attached to a weaponised host (humans), it is simply that it doesn't matter if IT can send images to the C-Medal, the C-Medal will simply ignore it as it doesn't understand it and never will. The Unit G control medal is effectively programmed for it's existence. It has many aspects of it's programming which centres around control of the organism, host protection, energy management, regeneration, storage of the host mind and so on. We know this can be updated too. Guyver 3's control medal held information from interfacing with the Gigantic Armour Sho built. It still retained this information so when it linked with the Control Medals from Arizona Agito was able to trigger the Gigantic Process and grow a new Cocoon and armour from them using his body as a core and his control as the provider of the information required to the control medals of the relic. But this updating process was with systems under the control of the Uranus. But never once has a Control medal being inferred with by an outside source other than other Creator controlled technology. Now doing this vs topics you've to be fair to what is there information wise. As much as you respect that IT can inspire fear you've to respect that the Creators would not have designed a system that allowed enemy forces to take over. They'd billons of years to perfect this tech and brought it with them from another world while they sat on Earth waiting from us to grow pre a time long before the dinosaurs (when life on earth was at it's beginning stages per the lore of the story. Both IT and the Unit G are both incredibly ancient. They'd not leave that technology open for something like it to take control. Even more so when the Creators themselves AND the Central Federation (the beings they reported too and were part of that also used Unit G technology) were not capable of coming up with an idea to save the Earth project. To suggest otherwise just basically completely rewrites what Guyver is about. Hell even the name Guyver. Out of Control.

The Control Medal isn't life as IT knows it. It's closer to a machine an is referred to as uncaring an unemotional numerous times (like when it butchers Fumio Fukamachi). You're grasping at straws if you think it will be effected by anything it is capable of.

Even if IT can trick a Guyver the issue is the Guyver isn't killable to IT easily. Outside the panic that is set in a Guyver is pretty hard to kill and a lot of it's defences happen automatically and are pushed to the host by the control medal to fit the situation. So for example, IT tries to fool the Guyver and it can transmit images fooling the human host. IT's problem is then the Guyver Unit itself. The Control medal will not be fooled and it will not fear. So while the human eyes are seeing something crazy in front of it, the head sensors will be telling the host something different. If IT goes in to try and eat the Guyver I do not see the host sitting back and not striking back. IT taking the host's SOUL will not stop a Guyver. It didn't stop the losers getting the red headed girl back either who awoke with a kiss in the movie.

It is not safe to say "Prototype". Either you don't understand what the word really means or you never done prototyping. If Alkanphel was a prototype then there has to be other prototypes (full bodied beings) out there. There is too much of a technical leap between a zoanoid and Alkanphel for him to just come out of the blue and then say "Oh we're finished, you're the leader of all the world and the zoanoid army we command" so most likely if their were other prototypes they are dead and Alkanphel is the embodiment of their work / sacrifice. To imply that Alkanphel was the prototype and the next 11 planned zoalords of the Uranus were the finished model makes no sense as Alkanphel was their planned leader. He is no prototype, he is the finished final model and the Uranus called him the leader of their army. If there was anything else before him, the only surviving prototype is Waferdanos (we know he's compatible as when given a Zoalord crystal made from Alkanphel he took humanoid form and developed zoalord powers). But Waferdanos was probably such an old prototype that he'd have not being classed as a zoalord for experimentation and simply left alone on his island. Alkanphel's Illness is quite simple in the end, he was ordered to shut down. He resisted that order and has being resisting it ever since but is finding it harder and hard to do so and his sleeps are getting longer and longer and more unpredictable. So much so that he's made a guard (Imakarum). His order to Imakarum to find the Guyver units most likely isn't to repair him, but to effectively become out of control overriding finally the command he was given eons ago. IT also has the scary affect of making him into a being far beyond a demigod that he calls himself..... It is possible that Alkanphel burnt himself out using his powers to the extent he did, but there is nothing to suggest that from what we've learnt from zoalords since that would lead to long term damage. The most other zoalords have needed when damaged or after using their powers to a large extent has being time in a bio-chamber.

Everything in fiction has limitations. Including IT, it is defeated in our Universe by kids / young adults. No matter what IT truly is in that world of Stephen king in the end it's Avatar / Existence in this universe is something you can win against. Without a Guyver armour. You and a group of people team up IT is gone for another 27 years at the very least. Note there was not Turtle in the movie, nor any mention of it. You put a Guyver'd Human Host, it is taking out that Avatar. Even if IT can scare a Guyver host, it's illusions were overcome by humans. And you're all still forgetting the power of the control medal. A Control Medal and a human brain are a scary combination. Quick enough to shoot a bullet out of the air before it hits the target. Combine that with the head sensors. That cold blooded machine plugged directly into the human brain isn't going to sit back while some other alien parasite attacks it's host brain. IT depends on too many abstract things to win, mostly it depends on fear and keeping the target in a panic state. A Guyver will not stay that way long enough and has the regenerative powers to over come it. IF you're on about Sho as he currently is in the comics or worse Agito (by himself or with Sho) it would be obliterated the moment he came after them.

If you remove the soul as you put it, IT has opened a can of worms that even the Creators couldn't contain. The Out of Control Guyver under the command of the control medal. If Sho and Exceed... well that would be an nasty quick fight in Exceed mode.

If an Exceed wanted, there is no Earth. With a controlled gravity well (the Implosion) it can literally consume the world. Outside that with the Exceed it can obliterate the whole town leaving IT nothing to feed on if it didn't kill him. IT depends on victims living inside the town area of Derry to feed. Remove it's feeding zone = no foods for it. Again if you're mixing the supernatural and the world of the Guyver, then you've to apply equal limitations. ANY organic being including it depends on a body. If it's not organic then why doesn't it feed? The Guyver can kill it. Killing a Guyver soul does nothing, it can be regenerated in a new host. Much like Sho's now 3rd body? Oh and 4th brain? Whatever Soul Sho had died against Enzyme. He was reduced to a memory store and cells we know have some genetic memory (the Guyver clone knew where Sho's school was).

There are no "magical" beings in the Guyver story. But in the end it doesn't matter you've to go with the content of what you're given when doing these Vs. Telepathic powers have being used against the Guyver, the bio-boosted Host ignored them and attacked the source of them. When Hamical tried to talk with the Gigantic Cocoon he could not so, bot a good sign for IT. You're basically saying in your post "Ignore the Guyver completely, because IT rely on Telepathic powers forget the Guyver name. After that on the pure ONE on ONE aspect of them comes into play. And in that regards nothing IT has can take a Guyver'd human host. Without a remover, Deadlights are taking nothing from a Guyver host. The host would simply be regenerated and kill IT before it can move. Again IT was killed by 7 humans with sticks / metel spikes and other low grade weapons. A Guyver would wipe the floor with it the moment the host realised IT was full of shit and depended at the very most on the hosts fear. Either way once IT comes up against a Guyver, IT is dead. And as you bought it up, an Exceed Guyver could completely obliterate IT and the town of Derry in one move. The power scale there isn't in anyway a good match. So game set, match and the Universe = an Exceed Guyver. Hell you're talking moon destroying levels of firepower there with it's controlled gravity implosion never mind an Exceed level Giga smash from low orbit pointed at the town.... It's just another level of complete destruction there.

IT heavily depends on 2 things to eat it's victims: 1) Mind control -> Won't work on a Guyver. 2) installing fear on a Guyver through it's powers / the dead eyes. Again being a form of mind control a Guyver Unit would shield the host. After that IT can be taken out by brute force weapons from a group of children. So going toe to toe against a Guyver with head sensors and abilities to move under ground = IT is toast.

Just because they can't find it on Earth doesn't mean that the Uranus didn't have plenty of supply. They had worn hole tech available to them so that wouldn't have being a limitation. "It's Natural, it happens" for old age isn't again a problem to such a race. As a species we've already almost conquered aging to a point where future generations biggest issue is going to be how to manage a population that doesn't age. Genetics is crazy stuff, cancers etc in future will not be the problem it is now. Hell even how our bodies react to space, to radiation etc will all change in the future due to research now. In the Guyver Universe the "creators" have already got not just this knowledge but have turned a parasitic species into a bio-armour. So age to them if they want it to be isn't a problem like it is to us now. It also stands to reason that they simply don't see life with the limitations we do and had the capability to wait for evolution to provide answers to problems they had. That's EON's of time, you're not talking thousands of years but millions simply waiting and seeing what happens. So allowing death to get in the way when they didn't have to doesn't seem like the best approach. It's not that didn't happen, but old age simply wasn't a concern to them. Though here's a thought, what makes you think that they were beings like us? With know the Relics are Immortal as long as they have supply of volcanic heat they live forever (the Japanese Relic confirms this). So simply put, what if with that giant organic brain that was in the ships and a Unit G's telepathic powers the Uranus themselves were never on earth? Only their ships were and they operated everything remotely and any creature they had with those control medals were simply puppets they controlled? FYI I'm not saying that Sho is now an immortal as we still don't know the long term effects of a unit on a host. There is a very big difference in age on a teenager to early adult and a host aging to a point were their body starts failing them. But simply put that part of any debate is mute because Takaya simply hasn't given us enough info.

Steve Wang consulted with him about his script, so yeah we can for the most part class it as canon because Takaya wouldn't have let something completely wrong stay in the story. As Steve himself has said, He done that one for the fans as we've seen lately Steve Wang had met Takaya before.

As shown in Dark Hero some ships had a LOT of dormant Units. Also in the comics the Relic in Arizona is refereed to as being larger than the other 3 in the comic. In Alkanphel's flashback when the Uranus tell him that he'll be one of 12 Zoalords they show him 12 Arks. So not every ship the used was the same and the Ark's design is most likely a Uranus warship of somekind modified by Chronos. Look at the scene when hey talked to Alkanphel there were 9+ control medals in the darkness lit up. They were never limited in anything the Uranus wanted in terms of numbers their own tech.they just had to grow it (which took A LONG time for some things like humanity to appear). But you are totally correct on the Unit being basically a hazmat / command and control system / very advance space suit. To quote them "We have merged a non-processed human with the armor we commonly equip ourselves with". Purely because "We wish to know how our amour will effect a being that's being developed as a weapon".

That's not quite the case in canon though. There has being 2 times that a Guyver host has being disabled and the Guyver Unit done nothing. 1) Sho suffering huge damage.... that spike from Aptom went through his stomach and out his back. He suffered huge internal injury and the Unit done nothing. If there was a "mental link" that worked as you described and the Unit was smart enough as described by you above it would have ignored the wishes of the host and activated. It did not, it was over a page later when Mizuki was stripped in front of Sho that he eventually broke through his own mental guilt to activate the unit. Meaning the host controls it. 2) Sean gets knocked out in the Dark Hero Movie. Again the host was effectively turned off and due to damage to the brain by an outside force. But once again the Unit didn't do anything to protect the host. Remember to Uranus / Federation this is just as a standard item of equipment so to them losing on because a host didn't want to activate it / was silly enough not to have it on and be bashed over the head wouldn't have mattered to them at all. They'd just make another Unit.

Saw it last night. There we some proper good scary things in there that will make you jump. The actor they got for Pennywise this time around was also properly scary and is a great performance. It doesn't hold back either. So yeah I have to say I was impressed.

I'm a little burned out of re-writes at the moment so have decided to do something both new and important to the current story and have started a prequel that will eventually lead to the events of the 2 live action movies as parts of this story which will eventually stop just before Union of the Guyvers. Here is a preview of the story so you can get a feel for it:

Yep, and next months cover is that cat looking thingy female character....

The animation might not have being the best throughout all the 12 epps. But if not for that series I'd have not being introduced to Guyver so it automatically has a place other Guyver content will never get in terms of importance for me. I still watch it again from time to time, it's still fun to watch but I do prefer the 2005 version for story.

I've a decent DVD collection but now rarely add to it. Only tend to when it's something on the level of new Guyver stuff.

This is one of those "unknowns" of Guyver that basically is impossible to say without Takaya getting involved. There are 2 schools of thought on this and basically the both could be right. 1) The Unit doesn’t interfere with the host natural systems -> Hence aging isn’t stopped and there is the possibility of the host simply dying of old age while the Guyver armour is in the boost dimension. This is supported somewhat by the fight with Aptom in the comics / manga that the Unit wouldn’t come to help the Host automatically when there is a life threating injury. So the question would be what happens after the hosts death? Does the unit without it’s anchor to the world simply drift in the Boost Dimension or simply reset and return to the world to be there for a new host? Impossible to say as we don’t know. 2) The Unit does interfere with the host natural system -> So in this possibility the Unit does stop / slow down aging. It’s supported by the idea that the Creators / Uranus live a LONG time. So what if the key to that long life is the Unit-G? It is found that humanity might cure aging by changing one DNA key in rats so the possibility of long life without a Guyver Unit is a possibility maybe in our lifetime. So in this fiction to say a Guyver Unit might stop aging isn’t too farfetched given the powers the Unit has. We know when active the Guyver Unit turns organs off and beings in new ones while bio-boosted. The Host is changed by being a Guyver and has growths on their attached to their spine back to communicate with the Unit when it is in the boost dimension. So correcting a slight flaw in a host so it doesn’t age wouldn’t be that hard. But again, this isn’t something Takaya has confirmed in anyway.

FYI at the moment I've being adding new icons to the different sections of the board. E.g. Cartman saying "Whatever" for the Whatever / Entertainment section. As I find ones I like I'll add them to the board. Note if anyone had a picture they think suits a section let me know (though whatever it is needs to be the same size as the Guyver picture in the Guyver section).

It wouldn't work. Even on a normal Guyver as it has too many options of retreat and to attack. The Guyver is never really surprised when active, it has reactions capable of shooting a bullet out of the air and head sensors that go for miles. Look at all the fights Guyver II F got into on her way to Japan, the only zoanoids that gave her any pause was Enzyme III's and a Powered Zerabubuse. As per the OP's post, "you're a zoanoid tasked with assassinating a Guyver," your method involves too many people and too many resources. The simplest method requires a gun, a silencer and the Guyver not active. Sho when wounded by Aptom would have died from blood loss but Aptom wanted to kill a Guyver, so he kept at Sho until he got over the mental block and wanted the power of a Guyver. Same in Dark Hero, Sean was nocked out and was about to be drugged but Atkins saved him What that shows is the only way to truly get a Guyver is get them when they are weakest, a human. Chronos in both the 2005 Anime and Guyver Out of Control both used guns as means of killing people. Or just use a Laser guided bomb and get the Guyver in human form while she / him sleeps.

I'd like to point out that a Nuclear bomb did not take out Cabral Khan. So at Gigantic Level the Guyver could take it. Chances are though at Gigantic Level his head sensor range would be great enough (bare in mind it's 50 odd KM's as a standard Guyver) to destroy any missile or bomb before it got a chance to detonate. Nuclear Winter wouldn't be a concern to the Guyver given it's ability to filter air. Given the flight range and powers it has it would survive most of that and you'd most likely end up killing humanity long before you'd kill the Gigantic Guyver.

If someone types up the Japanese text, sure.

So far it seems to be roughly 1 or two per year. Now that Guyver 3 is released we'll probably see the next prototype soon.

Shoot him / her in the head before bio-boosting.