chapter Guyver September 2012 - 16 pages

[alkanfel009]

I guess we can not exclude at this point 3 theories

1 Apollyon is alkanphel

2 imakarum is Apollyon

3 is a third player Apollyon which depocito to mizuki and Tetsuro shela on the island to create a retention among themselves parapoder imakarum and be caught off guard and take his zoacristal imakarum

ja is a theory that if we see that winds are on the island of alkanphel, I'm sure

1 they will have in the next chapter a talk

with imakarum or alkanphel

2 Apollyon will be out a couple of chapters to generate more suspense

pd:

temple mural and I love so well detailed I see more of this from within and outside an noticed that almost no Takaya used to

[RazorLaser]

Collecting zoacrystals, kidnapping humans... Perhaps making new zoalords?

[alkanfel009]

would be serious indeed a very good plan 2 zoalords the Guyver 1 sho never dare to touch

a very good plan, just look at the confucion that sho pipe when confronted the first 2 times imakarum

[guyverfanatic]

Not exactly an exciting chapter, but I bet this means Tetsuro and Mizuki will meet Alkanphel next chapter! Maybe even a reveal on who Apollyon is?!?!?

[Salkafar]

I don't think it would be a good idea to turn Mizuki and Tetsuro into Zoalords. Only Archanfel can mentally dominate a Zoalord, and not only is he asleep most of the time - and, as Barkas said, on the cusp of a very long sleeping period - but Guyot showed that it is possible to not just resist his will, but even to try to kill him.

Now... if Murakami is manifesting as a personality again, maybe he IS taking out Zoalords and removing their Zoa-Crystals... not for Archanfel, but to cripple Chronos! Between Sho, Zeus' Thunderbolt, Aptom, the rogue Zoalords and Guyot, plus governing the entire world, Chronos is facing a war on too many fronts, and they are losing generals fast.

The more I think about it, the more logical it seems. My hypothesis: Almost dying at the hands of the Gigantic Dark caused Murakami to manifest again, albeit as a shadow personality inside the dominant Imakarum. That is why Barkas could not detect him: Imakarum is still loyal. But sometimes, Murakami takes over and Imakarum blacks out; Murakami can then use all his immense power to attack Chronos, assassinating their generals and making it impossible to replace them. He never revealed himself to Sho and the others because of the possibility of them getting caught and made to talk.

Where did the armor come from, however? And what is the connection with the Uranus?

Did the Advents discover Earth still exists... and did they try to contact Archanfel, but got Imakarum instead because Archie was out cold? Was a deal made, perhaps? Maybe the Creator-ships send out an automated signal when they are activated. In that case, awakening the Relic might have alerted the Creators. That would be ironic. Or perhaps it was the Ark? Maybe a fully-grown Ark sort of cries out to its own kind, like a newborn baby's cry. We know there were many Arks when the Creators first came to Earth. (Does this mean all the beet-shaped Creator ships are like larval Arks?).

Maybe Murakami is now trying his best to save humanity from the Creators, convincing them the humans are worthy of life. Maybe the war is over. That would be cool.

Questions, questions... I am really curious to see where this is going.

Edited July 29, 2012 by Salkafar

[*Jess♥]

We know there were many Arks when the Creators first came to Earth.

we don't know this. I'm pretty sure the image of arks was a conceptual image.

but what you were saying about Imakarum makes sense.

it is said that 'Zeus' took on 'Cronos' with the help of 'Athena', 'Apollo', and 'Artemis'.

'Apollo' was the offspring of 'Zeus' so if the damage Gigantic Dark did to Imakarum caused him to become Apollon, that would make a lot of sense.

[Salkafar]

In that case... Murakami might want to transform Mizuki and Tetsuro into his 'Artemis' and 'Hermes' (Athena wasn't born yet at the time of the Titanomachia - come to think of it, neither were Hermes and Artemis). But if Murakami wants allies, he could to better than the Segawa siblings. And he already possesses several Zoa-Crystals...

[Larz Zahn]

Wasnt the siblings missing for a few nights to a few weeks? Flash backt to the last chapter where natsuki is talking to the young reporter... so.... whats all going to happen to the segawa siblings in the mean time? thats a lot of time to pass for prisoners... especially if its for a simple talk. i'm really curious to see for what purpose they were abducted.

correct me if im wrong but isnt alky awake now? so if hes not aware of who apollon is, i wonder how he'd react to two human visiters.

[Guest Melscypyo]

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I must say i'm always going to be a biobooster fan the comic series just keep interrested Man I wish this and rest of it come in animation form this animate kill alot of the animations that thier showing now days really suck I some time soon they do bring the rest of the episodes Takaya A great creator of original Art work

[Guest guyver01]

nice chapter can't wait for the next chapter. I hope something amazing happens in the next chapter. Thanks guys

[*Jess♥]

about mizukis' shoes,

she could have found polly's shoe cupboard.

alternatively, when they were on the roof, guyot could have took her to one side and told her how he got his armour when he was previously bare chested.

when guyot was shown on quadriga for the first time, he was bare chested.

what we all don't realise is that during that time, guyot was praying to the great deity 'takaya' asking for some cool armour.

he told this to mizuki in secret because he saw her bare feet and felt a little guilty for chasing them. he thought she might get a splinter and he is actually a big softy.

not to mention he doesn't like the sight of blood or to let people see his nipples.

[river_chaos]

alternatively, when they were on the roof, guyot could have took her to one side and told her how he got his armour when he was previously bare chested.

when guyot was shown on quadriga for the first time, he was bare chested.

what we all don't realise is that during that time, guyot was praying to the great deity 'takaya' asking for some cool armour.

he told this to mizuki in secret because he saw her bare feet and felt a little guilty for chasing them. he thought she might get a splinter and he is actually a big softy.

not to mention he doesn't like the sight of blood or to let people see his nipples.

That just made my day!

[Salkafar]

Guyot always struck me as the 'Snidely Whiplash' type. Tying Mizuki to the rails as Sho is running to save her...

[Larz Zahn]

I always veiwed him more like elmer fudd.

"shhhhh....be vewy vewy quiet. im hunting guyvas. huhuhuhuhu."

Edited July 30, 2012 by Larz Zahn

[Cannibal]

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[*Jess♥]

cheers Cannibal

I don't think I need to check this.

[Bio-Boosted Dude]

good chapter! i liked the narrative quality. felt quite different to what we usually get; in pace and style.

i'm not sure if i'm convinced tetsuro and mizuki are on silha though. if they were, i would've thought alkanphel's crystal would've been stolen by now, assuming apollon is not alky (and this is definitely something takaya would show rather than tell)

someone remind me, has alky been seen since apollon's awakening?

[*Jess♥]

yeah, alky was asleep on his chopping block.

barcas went to plead with him and thence he awoke shining with brilliance.

I don't think this is the case anyhow.

I mean I don't think the logic necessarily follows or is required.

if it were silha and apollon were not known to archy and imakarum, then they would surely detect the spacial distortion that he would have no doubt used within the temple or close by.

so no need to worry about archy's crystal.

but anyway, if this were not silha, I can see no reason why there would be reliefs depicting archanfel.

we could say that other temples were made in other places for the purposes of worship alone... but I consider that unlikely.

I'm just giving my thoughts here. not really going anywhere with it or trying to make any particular point.

[Aether]

We know there were many Arks when the Creators first came to Earth.

we don't know this. I'm pretty sure the image of arks was a conceptual image.

If i remember right wasnt any imagery of the creators always in their big 'egg with legs' pod ships??

the ark is a creation of Archanfel's / Cronos to transport the zoalords and zoanoids to pursue the creators in space isnt it??

...the most significant thing to me was the mural with the creator's, Archanfel , and all of the creations bowing down before them. ..."

but anyway, if this were not silha, I can see no reason why there would be reliefs depicting archanfel.

im sorry but unless i am missing something Archanfel is not on that relief!!

i spy dinosaurs, insects, wolf men,mer people etc. but no Archanfel.

the reliefs are depicting the Creators as....creators!! as the sun as seen by the rays emenating outwards from them, they gave life to everything below.

what i question is:

1.was this made while the creators were still there or after?? there is no depiction of humans so its hard to tell.

2.depending on how civiliation progressed and how far widespread it was after the creators left it could merely be a relief showing a depiction of the creators their 'god/s', in which case it could be anywhere in any early temple built by any early civilization that had knowledge of the creators...(including the lycanthropic were people!!etc.)

3.is this relief praising the creators or merely depicting history?

4. am i making too much of this???

i guess we wont know until next chapter (maybe!!!!!!!!!)

Edited August 3, 2012 by Aether

[river_chaos]

Aether, you might want to look again. There's a dipiction of Alkanphel in his Zoalord form under the Creator's ship.

Now that I think of it: back when Barcus was retelling his story to Amniculus and Purgstall, we didn't get a very good view of the interior of the temple or the images he passed on his way to meet Alkanphel. Even when the point of view shifted to Imakarum we still can't see the interior very well. Anyone else notice this?

[Guest Uziel]

as I wrote, if I remember well, we have already seen that relief... I think when balcus was telling the story of how he found alky... but I'm not able to find that chapter...

[Salkafar]

Pretty sure I saw multiple Arks in one of the more recent recaps.

[Guest Uziel]

Found! Volume 13, chapter 79, page 1 and page 20 (check guyver advocacy)! they are on the shinla island!

[Aether]

Aether, you might want to look again. There's a dipiction of Alkanphel in his Zoalord form under the Creator's ship.

ha ha well yeah, i see the er... resemblence now (kind of...) i was lookin for a literal depiction rather than a representitive symbol

it all makes sense! thanks to Uziel!!!!

Found! Volume 13, chapter 79, page 1 and page 20 (check guyver advocacy)! they are on the shinla island!

Well done dude!!! i did not remember that at all!!!!!!!!! thanks!!

edit:

something else i might be looking into too much now - just flicking through tankobon 13 and on p92 (chap 76) Archanfel appears in what looks like a very similar depiction of when Apollon enters/dissapears in april and mays issues!

so c'mon its either imakarum or Archanfel!? (or Balcas - he knows where Silha is right? )

Edited August 3, 2012 by Aether

[*Jess♥]

yeah he uses the same space warping technique as archanfel.

I'm surprised at other people's surprise XD I always remember these things clearly. but then I always have remembered things like this, people remarked about it before.

salkafar, you are correct, there were images if multiple Arks.

but what i was saying earlier is that those were conceptual images given to archanfel by the uranus.

I can't remember which chapter, I'll have a look now.

edit:

here -

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I always viewed this as a purely conceptual image as we didn't see them in other scenes depicting the uranus arriving and departing. of course there is a high likelihood from these images that the ark was a uranus design that was adapted by barcas et al to include the technological interface. I am certain there would have been some other form of interface in the creators design possibly requiring a navigation sphere or something similar.