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What I'm wondering is what is being said on page 408? I don't see any possible sound effect that could be a siren of some sort.

eh? that's a real problem... because there is no page 408 O_o

the pages go from 891 to 906 .... so I am really confused! :confused:

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Oh that's a 9. 903 then.

Like I said if one of these two must die I'm torn.

I want Shizu to win her big one on one fight and get her moment to shine.

On the other hand I really don't want Valcuria to die so early and hope she wasn't brought in just for some fan service and for the gimmick of having another Guyver. Though I do like her aggressive attitude.

I guess Shizu could still win and Guyver II doesn't have to die.

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Oh that's a 9. 903 then. Like I said if one of these two must die I'm torn. I want Shizu to win her big one on one fight and get her moment to shine. On the other hand I really don't want Valcuria to die so early and hope she wasn't brought in just for some fan service and for the gimmick of having another Guyver. Though I do like her aggressive attitude. I guess Shizu could still win and Guyver II doesn't have to die.

I agree that I'm also conflicted here, Griselda is the only female zoaform we know of so it would be sad to see her go, love her design, but on the other hand, it wouldn't make sense for Valcuria to die so soon since we still have no clue what her true objective is and why she's teamed up with Guyot. So as much as I'd like to see both ladies walk away from this mess alive, it would be anti-climatic story-wise for Val to die by Griselda's hands at this time. Plus, Griselda's been disarmed of her swords and without the Libertus she's basically defenseless, her bio energy reserves are likely running on empty by this point too, so what are the odds really that Agito could get her back to Hekkering's lab in the states and heal her before she dies? Not likely ):

I REALLY hope someone slaps Agito senseless for putting Shizu into this situation in the first place (his greed and ambition is gonna end up leaving him with nothing at this rate, no friends, no followers, no loved ones).

Judging by Guyot's expression, I think he's worried about drawing attention to themselves, I mean, if any of the curious neighbors are zoanoids then Chronos will know of the fire he started & may investigate. So I suspect he'll want to take the Segawas and Natsuki hostage quickly and escape while Val finishes off Griselda (or at least that would be my concern if I were in their shoes, stop messing around and accomplish the mission and get the hell out of dodge).

P.S. do you guys think Valcuria just stood there and withstood the explosions caused by the Libertus or do ya think she managed to evade the brunt of the blast using the Guyver's speed or flight abilities at the last second? Guyvers are tough, but I didn't think they could take a detonation that great point blank like that

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:G1: While I agree that Griselda is at a disadvantage due to the loss of her troops and her "swords", I think that it is a bit premature to say that she's defenseless. We don't yet know what other weapons she might possess and simply hasn't used yet. Takaya-san is good at surprising us. ^^; My guess is that they will both survive, but Griselda will "win" the fight against Valkuria by injuring her and her control medal almost reaching its limit, forcing her to withdraw from the fight and perhaps letting us have a re-match in a future chapter. I think that would be cool. It wouldn't make sense Griselda losing or Valkuria losing completely so early in their first encounter. Like Zoaknight pointed out, we still dont' know what Valkuria's goal is yet. Well, at least we have a clue, she is against the Guyvers since she sided with Gyout... :G3:
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:G1: While I agree that Griselda is at a disadvantage due to the loss of her troops and her "swords", I think that it is a bit premature to say that she's defenseless. We don't yet know what other weapons she might possess and simply hasn't used yet. Takaya-san is good at surprising us. ^^; My guess is that they will both survive, but Griselda will "win" the fight against Valkuria by injuring her and her control medal almost reaching its limit, forcing her to withdraw from the fight and perhaps letting us have a re-match in a future chapter. I think that would be cool. It wouldn't make sense Griselda losing or Valkuria losing completely so early in their first encounter. Like Zoaknight pointed out, we still dont' know what Valkuria's goal is yet. Well, at least we have a clue, she is against the Guyvers since she sided with Gyout... :G3:

I guess it is possible Griselda may have a final ace up her sleeve, but if she does, its probably something rather life threatening/dangerous or extreme given that she chose to blow up her men over using it first, i.e. it wouldn't be something as simple and easy as say a zoacrystal head beam or a energy slasher like Murakami had. She may be able to still fly or use her Zoalord strength and stamina perhaps, combined with whatever combat training she may have to defend herself against Val's weapons (though we've never seen the upper limits of her physical strength tested, no idea if she could grapple with a guyver...She always struck me as being designed to lead and support rather than for front line combat). It would be cool if both lived to fight another day, but Griselda would have to be VERY lucky to escape death at this point, like, Aptom showing up at the last second to fend the attackers off or Val's control medal beginning to surge, forcing her to disengage the armor and retreat, leaving things at a draw.

But yeah, regardless of how this battle turns out, I strongly suspect Val will survive to fight again since she's still a complete mystery to us, she's not gonna die with her origin & motives unexplained (or if she did, it would be rather uncharacteristically bad story telling, and Takaya's always been an amazing story teller since the beginning of the Guyver series, he never disappoints :D )

Edited by Zoaknight
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For those of you who would like to read the raw version of this chapter, you can download it from the link below:

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Although Amika had already provided the raw version in another thread, the link above is for the translators to double-check any unclear text from Amika's raw pages in their translation of this chapter.

Edited by Guyver Four
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Now I have not looked at the chapter, and should probably wait to post this, even though it doesnt appear so yet but does anyone think that Agito may have trained Shizu to face something like a Guyver especially after Sho ripped possession of the Gigantic away from him? It would make sense for him to do so especially facing the possibility of going up against odds like she is now. And what are the possibilities that after the battle with Guyot, Valcuria, and the Unus we may see a new Mode for the Libertus, now that they have been relatively outclassed.

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Now I have not looked at the chapter, and should probably wait to post this, even though it doesnt appear so yet but does anyone think that Agito may have trained Shizu to face something like a Guyver especially after Sho ripped possession of the Gigantic away from him? It would make sense for him to do so especially facing the possibility of going up against odds like she is now. And what are the possibilities that after the battle with Guyot, Valcuria, and the Unus we may see a new Mode for the Libertus, now that they have been relatively outclassed.

Its possible Shizu had received some manner of combat training before becoming a Zoalord, just so she'd be able to handle herself on the battlefield (or had it programmed into her). Though given the nature of her limited stamina and lifespan, I doubt she got to practice fighting in Zoaform since she had to spend most of her time outside of combat resting in a optimization tank, so she may have been dependent on the Libertus and her blades to fight for her all this time, she was created to lead the Libertus and fight zoanoids, no idea how she'll fair against a Guyver without her weapons or any backup...Guess we'll have to wait and see how well she can hold her own against the VERY skilled Valcuria without her swords and soldiers (she'd stand a better chance if her physical strength and speed where on par with a guyver). Granted, as someone who serves a Guyver, Griselda surely knows what a Guyver's weak points are, like the control medal, question is whether she can score a critical hit without being killed O_o

Its a pity her HF Swords weren't vibrating when Valcuria made her move, I assume that's the reason why they were so easily severed. Val caught her completely off guard and scored a major advantage by taking away her only offensive and defensive weapons (that we know of).

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thanks for your scanlation salkafar :)

sorry I didn't get chance to work on this today guys. hopefully I can get it done tomorrow.

and thanks for the additional raw scan guyver four.

I think i would prefer to use that one instead of the chinese raw. they put logo's on the pages that is sometimes problematic to remove.

daveblackeye, on page 903 the panels are demonstrating that lights are switching on. granted it is not very apparent. it took me a few tries to notice it.

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I could see aptom coming in soon.

But remember, Shizu has lost her main form of offense as far we know and she has to deal with a crippled but very combat effective guyver and a fully powered and ruthless zoalord (Even if his powers are weakened). Guyot has done nothing in this fight so even if shizu can pull a victory against Valcuria, I dont know how well she'd do against Guyot.

The only thing that I'm seeing could save her would be the innocent civilians that are attracted to the fire

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I could see aptom coming in soon. But remember, Shizu has lost her main form of offense as far we know and she has to deal with a crippled but very combat effective guyver and a fully powered and ruthless zoalord (Even if his powers are weakened). Guyot has done nothing in this fight so even if shizu can pull a victory against Valcuria, I dont know how well she'd do against Guyot. The only thing that I'm seeing could save her would be the innocent civilians that are attracted to the fire

I gotta agree with you there, Shizu's best chance at survival would be for Aptom to pop up & intervene (and hope he's feeling merciful even after the trouble she and her boss caused prior to the arrival of Guyot and company...They WERE holding Sho's friends captive under threat of death if they tried to leave after all). Sho and Agito were still in the middle of the city facing off when last we saw them, so it seems unlikely they'd arrive in time to save the day (and Agito was looking shocked over something when last we saw him)

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But for Guyot and Valkuria, time is an issue. She has been in Guyver mode for 1 fight, which is how long she can function before her control medal starts to malfunction; if it happens now, she'll be at the mercy of her enemies. Guyot, for his part, is now sporting a synthetic control medal; every time he goes to battle mode, his lifespan is shortened, just like with Shizu and Murakami. And of course he may not have to, since he is already as strong as a Guyver in human form.

Still, he seems incredibly sure somehow that neither the Guyvers nor Aptom will return to the mansion - either of which would be a complete disaster for him.

I mean, the way he's crouching in that tree, you'd expect Aptom to go

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Also, Sho was 165 feet tall when we last saw him. I mean, his sensors must be huge. He could just go "Oh, wait a moment Agito", turn his head and fire a headbeam from one of the smaller laser crystals, incinerating Guyot where he sits.

That would be funny.

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Also, Sho was 165 feet tall when we last saw him. I mean, his sensors must be huge. He could just go "Oh, wait a moment Agito", turn his head and fire a headbeam from one of the smaller laser crystals, incinerating Guyot where he sits. That would be funny.
:lol: ha ha this post was so much fun :D

oh by the by, you said guyot has a synthetic control medal ^^;

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Also, Sho was 165 feet tall when we last saw him. I mean, his sensors must be huge. He could just go "Oh, wait a moment Agito", turn his head and fire a headbeam from one of the smaller laser crystals, incinerating Guyot where he sits. That would be funny.
:lol: ha ha this post was so much fun :D

oh by the by, you said guyot has a synthetic control medal ^^;

Yeah, I think Guyot's sporting a Dummy Crystal at the moment

However, I agree that is the funniest post I've read in a while, that would be priceless! Agito would probably be thinking "what the hell was I thinking taking on this guy?" after watching him do something like that XD

As funny as it is though, its not totally out of the question, who knows how wide a range the Exceed's hyper senses can go?

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What we also dont know is, is the battle at the mansion going on the same time as Guyver-1's vs. Guyver-3's and Aptom vs. Libertus. Depending on the battle time line it is possible that both Guyvers are heading back to the mansion. As for Aptom interviening, the only way I see that happening is if it is one of his clone-bodies (oh god what is that word its on the tip of my tounge). Because lets not forget he was interested in finding out what the Libertus' abilities were and possibly how delicious they are :eat:

Now that raises a new question, now that I think of it. Shizu ordered the Libertus to go Mode C and Detonate, is it possible that she ordered the ones fighting Aptom to detonate also?

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What we also dont know is, is the battle at the mansion going on the same time as Guyver-1's vs. Guyver-3's and Aptom vs. Libertus. Depending on the battle time line it is possible that both Guyvers are heading back to the mansion. As for Aptom interviening, the only way I see that happening is if it is one of his clone-bodies (oh god what is that word its on the tip of my tounge). Because lets not forget he was interested in finding out what the Libertus' abilities were and possibly how delicious they are :eat: Now that raises a new question, now that I think of it. Shizu ordered the Libertus to go Mode C and Detonate, is it possible that she ordered the ones fighting Aptom to detonate also?

Dunno, its hard to say how far Griselda's psychic range extends, though since most other Zoalords appear able to influence and control all Zoanoids within their territory it is possible she could still command the Libertus at the docks. Though I doubt she'd order her remaining troops to blow up if she's still in touch with them, it would make more sense to summon them to her as much needed backup, assuming Aptom hasn't devoured them already and gained the abilities of a Libertus for himself (he'd look pretty cool with Mode B bio blasters on his shoulders lol).

I agree its also possible that Aptom could have sent a clone body back to the mansion if he's still fighting the last libertus...I'm honestly shocked he doesn't do that more often. I mean, couldn't he conceivably cause trouble for Chronos all over the globe if he made enough copies of himself and sent them out to seek and destroy? Or can he not stay in contact with his doppelgangers over that great a distance? They came in handy at Mount Minakami against the Hyper Zoanoid Team 5 and again when he was teaching Sho a lesson while disguised as Team 5. He'd be a literal one man army lol

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well I have gotten halfway through typesetting this. I fiddled with the title page to make it look nice and glued the pages together etc.

but it's gotten late and I decided to prepare something for you guys while I work on the typeset.

let's see who can do the nicest colouring job on this image.

I love the way griselda looks on this. so isolated.

I do hope agito sees sense and comes to rescue her.

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^don't download this image, get the bigger version then you can crop it if you like.

anybody who colours this by the time i finish typesetting the chapter tomorrow, will have their work included in the archive with the chapter itself.

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