guyverfanatic Posted December 28, 2010 Posted December 28, 2010 It'll be interesting to see how this turns out... Quote
Zoaknight Posted January 13, 2011 Posted January 13, 2011 Who ya rooting for to win? I'm rooting for Sho of course, Agito's been in need of an ass kicking for a LONG time Quote
Sully Posted January 13, 2011 Author Posted January 13, 2011 Who ya rooting for to win? I'm rooting for Sho of course, Agito's been in need of an ass kicking for a LONG time Sho for the very same reason. I'd like to see Agito properly lose just to see how the character would react to it (if he's left alive to do so). Also so Sho could wipe the smug look off his face. Quote
McAvoy Posted January 13, 2011 Posted January 13, 2011 I agree. I doubt Sho will kill Agito unless forced to do so. I also wonder if Sho wins will Griselda and her Libertus join the battle. Agito isn't exactly known to be playing fairly. I am also curious on how well Aptom will fare against the Libertus. So far nothing really has stopped the Libertus. But Aptom is much more powerful now. Quote
Zoaknight Posted January 14, 2011 Posted January 14, 2011 Sully wrote: Sho for the very same reason. I'd like to see Agito properly lose just to see how the character would react to it (if he's left alive to do so). Also so Sho could wipe the smug look off his face. I too am curious as to how losing to Sho would affect Agito's psyche, we've already seen how shaken he was by Sho successfully cutting him off from the original Gigantic cocoon, but I can't imagine how literally losing to Sho in mortal combat would affect him. He always thought of Sho as inferior to himself, a weak willed man that he could use and discard whenever he pleased, but in the end Sho's will proved stronger than his own and he took back the cocoon. This battle is all about Agito's pride and ego, proving to himself that he's top dog as well as taking out the only other Guyver with a Gigantic upgrade besides himself. If Agito loses this battle, it could quite possibly SHATTER his mind, or at least push him off the deep end into genuine insanity...Assuming no one kills him of course, Sho may show mercy even after beating him, but I can easily picture a Chronos agent picking a weakened Guyver 3 off after the battle as soon as Sho's out of sight (or even while Sho's still there, plenty of zoanoids with stealth or sniping abilities I'm sure, and a Zoalord would be a worthy foe for Sho even if he wasn't already exhausted from fighting Gigantic Dark). Then there is Shizu...We saw in the anime series, which Yoshiki Takaya himself helped with, that without Agito Shizu just LOST IT, kinda broke down and lost touch with reality. If Agito somehow dies by the end of this battle or shortly after how will she react? Will she become all vengeful and carry out his will even in death or would she make peace with Sho and company? Or just plain lose her mind entirely? McAvoy wrote: I agree. I doubt Sho will kill Agito unless forced to do so. I also wonder if Sho wins will Griselda and her Libertus join the battle. Agito isn't exactly known to be playing fairly.I am also curious on how well Aptom will fare against the Libertus. So far nothing really has stopped the Libertus. But Aptom is much more powerful now. It might take Shizu some time to get to Agito if he ends up needing backup (he can't communicate with her over long distances either since he's a guyver and she's a Zoalord, and I didn't see anysort of communication device on him...), unless she can actually teleport like other zoalords (haven't seen evidence of it just yet I think). And Sho would be able to sense if he had any lying in wait at their battle ground, but I agree that Agito wouldn't hesitate to fight dirty if things were going badly... I also wonder about the Aptom vs Libertus battle, this could be the first instance in which we see the Libertus totally outclassed by a superior zoaform, but their numbers should keep Aptom busy for a while at least. I guess it all comes down to whether Agito gave his zoatroopers somesort of defense against Aptom or if he's just sacrificing them for the sole purpose of keeping Aptom out of his way while he deals with Sho, not caring if they win or lose as long as he's able to defeat Sho before Aptom gets a chance to interfere. Quote
McAvoy Posted January 22, 2011 Posted January 22, 2011 Yeah it is interesting how this will turn out. Especially the Aptom vs. Libertus fight. You may be correct is thinking that the Libertus are there to keep Aptom busy so he wouldn't interfere. Then again that would mean we could miss a fight between Griselda vs. Aptom. I am more inclined to believe that Agito will go into hiding to either become more vengeful or join Sho. I highly doubt Agito will join Chronos, at least willingly no matter how his mind has shattered. Quote
guyvergoddess Posted January 22, 2011 Posted January 22, 2011 I've read som of this too, and when ever I see her "Guyver Name" of Guyver F2, I have to wonder, if their is a Guyver F2, is their a Guyver F1:?: (I'm going at this as F meaning "female" so I may just be interpriting things wrong) Quote
McAvoy Posted January 22, 2011 Posted January 22, 2011 Guyver II F means that she is the female version of the Guyver 2 who was a male. Not meaning that there is another female Guyver running around. Remember that her armor and control medal comes from research and samples done to Guyver 2 when he was still alive. Quote
Zoaknight Posted January 22, 2011 Posted January 22, 2011 Yeah, I too think the name Guyver 2F stems from the fact her unit was essentially cloned from samples taken of the original Guyver II and then they added an F for female at the end...Honestly, I wish they'd just named her Guyver 4, much simpler and sounds better I still wonder who she really is...Old girlfriend of Lisker? Sister? Or do the two guyver 2 hosts have nothing in common beyond their units? She must have had a good reason to betray Chronos instead of continuing to serve them, and she may have sided with Guyot of all people...So its hard to say if she'll end up teaming with Sho and Aptom later or become a new enemy for them to face. And yeah, I can't picture Agito joining Chronos again either, he wants to rule the world himself not serve someone else or share it, and he's done too much damage to ever redeem himself in Chronos's eyes even if he did want to go back. Quote
guyvergoddess Posted January 29, 2011 Posted January 29, 2011 I wonder if she will be in any Fan-Fics? Quote
Sully Posted January 29, 2011 Author Posted January 29, 2011 I wonder if she will be in any Fan-Fics? Can't answer that here, we tend to keep the offical Guyver section free of fan-fic posts in general. But if you ask else were I'll be happy to answer. Quote
McAvoy Posted January 30, 2011 Posted January 30, 2011 Yeah, I too think the name Guyver 2F stems from the fact her unit was essentially cloned from samples taken of the original Guyver II and then they added an F for female at the end...Honestly, I wish they'd just named her Guyver 4, much simpler and sounds better I still wonder who she really is...Old girlfriend of Lisker? Sister? Or do the two guyver 2 hosts have nothing in common beyond their units? She must have had a good reason to betray Chronos instead of continuing to serve them, and she may have sided with Guyot of all people...So its hard to say if she'll end up teaming with Sho and Aptom later or become a new enemy for them to face. And yeah, I can't picture Agito joining Chronos again either, he wants to rule the world himself not serve someone else or share it, and he's done too much damage to ever redeem himself in Chronos's eyes even if he did want to go back. I have to agree that both of the Guyver 2s probably knew each other. She is a 'foreigner' according to the manga and I always thought Lisker looks like a European if not American or British. Quote
OnyxPhoenix Posted January 30, 2011 Posted January 30, 2011 Very true. Last I checked, not many blond Japanese people over there. Plus, the information in the manga suggests that what Chronos does know about the CM of a Guyver came from studying G2 way back when. it's just taken this long to design something similar in function to that and test it. Unfortunately for Chronos, she has her own agenda. Boy, does that sound familiar... Quote
Sully Posted January 31, 2011 Author Posted January 31, 2011 isker is discribed as from the HQ (I took that as a hint of from the Arionza base). He came from another country after the Guyver 1 was activated. Clearly he's draw as someone from the West and not Japanese. Quote
*zeo Posted January 31, 2011 Posted January 31, 2011 Very true. Last I checked, not many blond Japanese people over there. Aside from those who dye their hair or who are Eurasian... But the names are a pretty good indicator that they aren't Japanese... One thing to note though is most of the Zoalords aren't from Japan and Chronos is a World wide organization. Like the Ark was build in the Dead Sea. So this should come as a surprise... The only reason the story is centered on Japan is because Aptom and the Guyvers! But Agito for one has gone to other countries, and is usually found in the US. Like when he attacked Washington DC Chronos Towers, the Arizona Relic Base, New York City, etc... There are indication Valcuria may have been an assistant to Balcus as was shown in earlier Manga issues and would have explained her access and knowledge of the unit. It doesn't look like Takaya is following the same background for her as he did for the Out of Control OAV that he originally created the character for. So may have no direct link to Risker aside the unit she now uses Quote
Zoaknight Posted February 1, 2011 Posted February 1, 2011 (edited) Zeo wrote: There are indication Valcuria may have been an assistant to Balcus as was shown in earlier Manga issues and would have explained her access and knowledge of the unit. It doesn't look like Takaya is following the same background for her as he did for the Out of Control OAV that he originally created the character for. So may have no direct link to Risker aside the unit she now uses I think I know which assistant you're speaking of...That lady from Relic's Point who talked with Barcus about the Lost Numbers? I only remember her out of all the various Chronos personnel we've seen only cuz she's the ONLY female staff member we've seen thus far, unless Valcuria isn't her and then there'd be a grand total of two. Heck, except for Griselda there be no female zoanoids at all yet Edited February 1, 2011 by Guest Quote
guyverfanatic Posted February 1, 2011 Posted February 1, 2011 The newest chapter is with Aptom fighting it out against two Libertus(es?). Quote
Matt Bellamy Posted February 1, 2011 Posted February 1, 2011 The newest chapter is with Aptom fighting it out against two Libertus(es?). More like 4... Seems like he's a little shocked about them... But still seems to be playing around a bit, getting a feel for them... As we know, he's got plenty of tricks up his sleeves Quote
Rivyn Posted February 19, 2011 Posted February 19, 2011 I love the direction the manga is going but I swear the chapters for Guyver arent long enough, they're half the length of other mangas and takes twice as long to get them I want more Guyver damn it T_T Quote
guyverfanatic Posted February 21, 2011 Posted February 21, 2011 I love the direction the manga is goingbut I swear the chapters for Guyver arent long enough, they're half the length of other mangas and takes twice as long to get them I want more Guyver damn it T_T I feel the same way. Quote
Sully Posted February 28, 2011 Author Posted February 28, 2011 The lastest Guyver chapter is up at Japan Ledgend. Spoilers! More Guyot and Valcuria, looks like Guyot is as scheming as ever! It's reveaed he's simular now to a Proto-zoalord and his crystal has a undisclosed end of life date! Guyot also has a small army of zoanoids with him too. Chronos isn't handling the idea of two Gigantics well, looks like a Zoalord is going to join in on the battle (the muppet! Good chance he'll be killed off later). Quote
McAvoy Posted March 2, 2011 Posted March 2, 2011 I don't think it will be smart for Chronos to but in between two Gigantics fighting each other.... Also i was thinking about the previous chapter. Aptom saying something about it being familiar to his own form. Maybe Libertus are copied from Aptom? Maybe not the whole eating zoanoids thing but maybe his genetic nature to allow for multiple abilities to be stable? Quote
Juggernought Posted March 2, 2011 Posted March 2, 2011 Probably one of the designs that Agito stole from chronos before all hell broke lose. It would be beneficial to his cause if Aptom's ability and zoanoid 'type' was able to be recovered and replicated. Quote
McAvoy Posted March 2, 2011 Posted March 2, 2011 Perhaps or maybe the scientist responsible for the Libertus had a hand in Aptom's as well. We won't be sure of what he meant until whatever chapter Aptom is shown again. It looks like next month's chapter will be the Gigantics Battle. Though it looks like both of them are using the Gravity Spike on each other. I wonder how that will turn out. It is interesting though their stance in their attacks. Gigantic Guyver is more or less flying like Superman whereas Gigantic dark is flying with his knee bent. Nice touch I think. Quote
Zoaknight Posted March 2, 2011 Posted March 2, 2011 I think Aptom was commenting on the fact that the Libertus possess complex abilities more commonplace amongst Lost Numbers than Hyper Zoanoids, OR, that they are similar to him in that they can transform and adapt to changing battle situations like he can, i.e. they can switch from brawler mode to a bio blaster mode etc. Heck, it could even be a combination of the two since Agito got the data to create his zoanoids from Biofreezer and of course Dr. Hekkering designed the Libertus to be resistant to Chronos control, thanks in part to Griselda's influence too. So far Aptom seems impressed by their abilities, but not intimidated. I think Aptom will be able to dominate the Libertus next page, to the point where they'll be forced to self-destruct in order to fulfill their purpose of preventing Aptom from helping Sho or rescuing the others. Either that, or Aptom will take them out and proceed to challenge Griselda and her remaining Libertus troops back at the mansion. Quote
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