Shenzon Posted June 28, 2007 Posted June 28, 2007 imagen Alk bonded with a Warrior Unit or god forbid a W'Kar repo Hahaha...then their would be no fanfic. Alkanphel would've made sure of that. Quote
Spartan Warlord Posted June 28, 2007 Posted June 28, 2007 lol i bet he'd make anubis look like a fluffly bunny Quote
McAvoy Posted June 29, 2007 Posted June 29, 2007 As Anubis is right now, yes a Guyver Zoalord is easily within his power range. Though, Anubis would still beat him. A full powered Guyver Alkanphel would be 4,000x. He would easily own Anubis. A Warrior Guyver Alkanphel? He would be 16,000x, even a full powered, fully healed Anubis would not compare. A W'Kar Alkanphel? He is God. Quote
Spartan Warlord Posted June 29, 2007 Posted June 29, 2007 now thats a scarey through...he'd easiely kick creator ass...buh would he stop there??...i nope not Quote
Sully Posted June 29, 2007 Posted June 29, 2007 A Dreadnought armour empowered Alkanphel would also be VERY gold like. Mix Alkanphels already power skills with that of a Matrix and the fact Dreadnought himself is near un-killable would mean not only could he destroy everything he encountered in the fiction but also he could create a world in his image. Quote
Spartan Warlord Posted June 29, 2007 Posted June 29, 2007 if he never let the power go to his head...mite even be a nice place to live...apart from being some kind of Zoaform or Guyver could be quiet plesant...i mean the only reason he made chronos was to protect the earth even if he did snatch people buh as Dreadnought Alk he wouldnt really need an army... Quote
W'Kar Posted June 29, 2007 Posted June 29, 2007 Only a fool is a one man army. No matter how powerful, trained, and brillant. Quote
OnyxPhoenix Posted June 29, 2007 Posted June 29, 2007 Truer words were never spoken. All throughout the time the GZ was alive, he was laughing @ the Creators & all of the attacks that came @ him from their armies. His shielding had been that powerful, and who knows if it was actually @ full power during that time. He was a bit drunk on his own power; if he had realized this sooner, he may have been much harder to kill than he was for WG. The main thing that WG had going for him, as when mentioned in 7DOH as he was facing Crystallite's infection, he was, and is, one heck of a stubborn b*****d, , and refused to give up despite the pain and that he was fighting his infected sister. The Matrix responds to his will quite well, and who knows just how much will power it can handle. Hey, it might evolve the armor further, or show Jason even more abilities that can be used in battle or otherwise. Just some food for thought. Who really knows what these devious men have up their sleeves for us to read next? Edit: P.S. Many thanks again to McAvoy for keeping the old DF's, & for showing us the new ones as well. Kudos, man. Quote
McAvoy Posted July 2, 2007 Posted July 2, 2007 The Matrix responds to his will quite well, and who knows just how much will power it can handle. Hey, it might evolve the armor further, or show Jason even more abilities that can be used in battle or otherwise. Just some food for thought. Who really knows what these devious men have up their sleeves for us to read next? Well, it all depends on Jason himself on this point. The reason why is he what he si now is because of the fact that he has a strong will to stay as human as possible. It would be very easy for him of course to become a Guyver Zoalord himself, but that would sacrifice his humanity. If he did that would be story ender. Which is why if Zeus ever merged with a Matrix, that's probably exactly what would happen. Edit: P.S. Many thanks again to McAvoy for keeping the old DF's, & for showing us the new ones as well. Kudos, man. No problem. But for future reference, if anyone gives anyone spoilers or non-posted datafiles, it's probably be a bad idea to post it on the board. But this was my mistake. Though I was never happy with that datafile I made anyway. I was having a fairly hard time trying to figure out: 1. What's the role of the anti-matter. Is it a power source or is like the W'Kar where it boosts the user's power? Or both? 2. How did the CPMs become so powerful going from ammere 400 men boost to 5,000 men boost? My personal theory now is that the antimatter supplies the CPMs instead of hyperspace energies. Which might give Atrahasis a risk of using it giving how volatile antimatter is against matter. Of course, if Allen does do the datafile, it'll probably be vastly different than what I did. Or might not. Quote
*zeo Posted July 2, 2007 Posted July 2, 2007 Okay, considering there is only so much that could be contained, who wants to guess the real reason for the Anti-matter? Hint, it has to do with what made the Atrahasis extreme high power levels possible. Remember, the Atrahasis was neither a True W'Kar nor something like a Guyver Zoalord yet had an incredible amount of power. The CPM's are also a good hint since they go way beyond their original design specs. Quote
McAvoy Posted July 3, 2007 Posted July 3, 2007 More than likely the antimatter acts similar to how the W'Kar element enhances the True W'Kar when it's fully healed. This is supported by the Dibblis and Krullnar dialogue that they could not replicate the element so they used antimatter instead. So the CPMs, might be using the antimatter as a source of power, and Atrahasis without the antimatter migh be a 30x to 40x character. Quote
*zeo Posted July 3, 2007 Posted July 3, 2007 Very close, in part that is what it was but there is more. Namely, remember there was never that much anti-matter stored in the Atrahasis. Hint, it has to do with what made it possible for the Atrahasis to have such a high power level without already being based on a powerful host being. Remember the WG HSL limitation McAvoy. Quote
McAvoy Posted July 3, 2007 Posted July 3, 2007 He's W'Kar based so he has a much higher durability to handle power. Quote
*zeo Posted July 3, 2007 Posted July 3, 2007 He's not entirely W'Kar based, at best he barely rates as a reproduction. Remember they wanted him controllable and he was a Combination of WG2 and GWOTG Creator tech. Besides that wouldn't explain the anti-matter, which there was only a small supply contained within it's control crystal/metal. Quote
W'Kar Posted July 3, 2007 Posted July 3, 2007 No more spoiled files! After all, remember, everyone was copied at the end of that explosion, perhaps even the dead? Quote
Frost Posted July 5, 2007 Posted July 5, 2007 Perhaps it is time Atrahasis :mura: came back so as to give the good guys a fighting chance..i really pity them Quote
McAvoy Posted July 5, 2007 Posted July 5, 2007 Not much of one. Remember that Atrahasis and Dues were of similar power level. Even Dues himself wasn't turning the tide of war by himself. One person cannot make a change even Anubis needed an army. I always figurred that if the Creators knew about Anubis early on, he would have been wiped out under the onslaught of trillions of Jy-Taki and Orobouras. Quote
W'Kar Posted July 5, 2007 Posted July 5, 2007 Yep. It was Grend's selfishness and hubris that kept him from informing the council. Had he done so, Anubis could have been stopped. Quote
McAvoy Posted July 5, 2007 Posted July 5, 2007 Which i wonder how well his army would handle a powerful Creator army like WG2's Warrior Kavzars or hell even the WG universe's Kavzars. One or Two Kavzars could take on a Lycanlord. The Commander Kavzars could take on one or two Lycanlords, and the Enforcer Kavzars could very well take on the Generals or even the Lts. Though if powerful beings like Zagam or Baphomet or even Anubis joins in, they'll be screwed. Quote
W'Kar Posted July 5, 2007 Posted July 5, 2007 It'd be a tough fight in wg universe, especially considering that the Kavzar themselves self destruct if captured, meaning no bodies to make Lycanlords out of. Aceaer outnumber even Kavzar 100 to 1 I think, so there is plenty of bodies. And it's alot easier to get an Aceaer off than a Guyver Unit. Plenty of meat for the pits But Kavzar are weaker than Jy-taki, even a standard Jy-taki can take down a Commander given the right tactics and good use of the Bio-Energy Doubler. But Kavzar have unlimited stamina, the Jy-taki do not. However, the Grakken are just like the AAR. Plenty more meat for the tanks Quote
McAvoy Posted July 5, 2007 Posted July 5, 2007 True the Grakkens are more like the AAR, but in relation to the Creators, they are very powerful. Nearly equal I think to the Creators themselves. On top of that, the Grakken are far more powerful on average than the AAR were. But the Creators would in fact be I think slightly eaiser than the Creators of W'Kar's universe. Quote
*zeo Posted July 6, 2007 Posted July 6, 2007 Well Kavzars may be weaker than Jy-Taki but Commanders at least aren't that easy to defeat. Even if you manage to blow one up you better make sure you vaporize the Control Crystal completely or it'll just pull itself together and then regenerate completely. Then there are the Enforcers which nearly rival even Dreadnought's level of power. Not to mention other unknown weapons since the Creators never stopped developing their technology. As for the Grakken, they have the technology to give their soldiers suicide bombs and they would quickly adapt that practice when they face the OOA. While the Aceaers may be a source of meat, it wouldn't be that difficult for the Creators to just upgrade them all to Kavzars. So though the OOA could fairly easily defeat the WG universe if they come in force, it would be fairly lean pickings. Quote
McAvoy Posted July 6, 2007 Posted July 6, 2007 I think Anubis would definitely avoid the WG2 and related universes since that's where the Matrix is. On top of that, the Warrior Kavzars are there and they are more powerful and harder to defeat than the Jy-Taki. Well, at least he will avoid them until later. Quote
W'Kar Posted July 6, 2007 Posted July 6, 2007 Time is not a very limiting factor for him anymore. Quote
McAvoy Posted July 7, 2007 Posted July 7, 2007 Time may not be a factor anymore for him but consider the following: 1. Warrior Kavzars are more powerful than a Lycanlord 2. Warrior Kavzars have no human form, so no Lycanlords 3. For every Lycanlord killed by a Warrior Kavzar, that's one less that they canot replace. 4. There millions if not billions of Matrixes in that universe. Even Zagam will be threatened. 5. Who knows what other weapons there are. Maybe the Commander class is more common than we think. Quote
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