Teleportation Blocks

[Shenzon]

Could a Gigantic Unit who is being blocked from transportation, just summon the cocoon, enter it, and escape a teleportation block, like the one eliminator was using? Couldn't Zeus or Dreadnought have teleported that way since he obviously can't block unit activations because the cocoon's come through hyperspace like unit activations, correct? Not through teleportation if I'm not mistaken.

[McAvoy]

I think they use the same teleportation technology either cocooned or un-cocooned so technically no. But then again, you are technically correct since the cocoons are like calling upon a Guyver unit.

[Shenzon]

Ahh...ok. I see what your saying. It would be the exact same teleportation.

[Juggernought]

Added note that the Dreadnought cocoon could not be transported directly to Female Warrior Guyver's location, it appeared outside the Eliminators blocking field.

[*zeo]

Yes, the teleportation block effects unit activation as well.

There is just a stronger link between a host and their unit so it is harder to block but it can be blocked.

Jason only managed to send the Warrior Gigantic to Fiona through the Eliminator block by sending it by itself (reduced mass) and using his Matrix powers to counter the block enough for the cocoon to get through.

But even then he could only send it to her general area and she had to fly to it.

[Frost]

Hmmm Dreadnought's Matrix allows all sorts / means of transportation as per his data file... so could he not replicate W'kar's mode of teleortation and overcome the Eliminator's blocking ability?

[*zeo]

Even W'Kar's method can be blocked, it's just harder to do so, but the problem is also W'Kar's method exposes the traveler to the raw energies of Hyper Space and basically anything less durable than a W'Kar would get damaged from the trip.

[Frost]

Well i was hoping Dreadnought would be as durable if not more than W'kar..

[W'Kar]

Dreadnought basically would come out a smoking mess. He'd survive and heal quick, but it'd hurt like hell. Shields aren't as useful in there as raw durability.

W'Kar and the Reproductions have special armor unlike most guyvers, it's durable as hell. Without shielding, without body shields, and without anything else they can withstand mega smash levels of damage. Even Dreadnought still employs a body shield for much of his durability, which frankly equals many of the reproductions without any form of shielding.

[Frost]

Well that is not an issue as he can make himself incredibly dense i.e density.. would that suffice?

[Juggernought]

I don't think he can hold that density effect...teleport repeatedly, and effectively fight the eliminator at the same time..

[sonarelite]

ok if the Eliminator can block w'kar's way of teleportation can it also block XT2 guyver from using his portal's to escape or portal somewhere else on the battlefield??

[WarriorZoalord]

wormholes or portals arent really teleportation, so i dont think they can be blocked...

[*zeo]

They can be blocked.

Basic rule of thumb, it is always easier to block a method of teleportation than to teleport.

Wormholes are naturally prone to collapse for example, it takes energy (specifically exotic matter or negative energy) to keep them open and a lot to keep them stable enough for actual travel.

Most forms of teleportation in the fic utilizes a wormhole style hyper space jump in which hyper space is used as a connecting point from one location to the next. But a dimensional membrane protects the traveler which is why WG's can bring others through without frying them.

W'Kars method differs in that he just goes into hyper space and then comes back into normal space after traveling through hyper space. This of course means he is fully exposed to the energies of hyper space.

The only other thing that follows this method is the Gigantic Cocoon, which like a Relic can actually fly through hyper space for FTL travel so as to reach it's destination.

Though it can be argued that W'Kar's method involves more dimensional layers of hyper space and so the intensity of energy one would be exposed to could be greater, which would explain why None W'Kars can be damaged as G3 has gone through the Boost Dimension and only came out hot but not burned.

Anyway, you have to also consider that it also takes a lot of energy to actually form and generate the wormhole to begin with.

And the other methods have similar problems so all the Eliminator had to do was destabilize the process to block any given method of teleportation or FTL travel.

Course some methods are easier to block than others and there is of course a range limit to the block.

Which all factors in.

[Frost]

So how come W'kar was able to easily teleport within the Eliminator's blocking radius? and is it suffice to say that Eliminator can block all methods of teleportations?

[*zeo]

W'Kar wasn't the Eliminator's target. Fiona was!

And yes, the Eliminator was advance enough to block other methods of teleportation but since they were outside it's original programming it would have to be first exposed to it before it could adapt.

Basically think of it like the Star Trek Borg, something may work the first couple of times you use something but after awhile it will adapt and counter it.

Like the first time the Eliminator faced the Warrior Gigantic while Fiona was using it, it wasn't adapted to it so got damaged but later when facing Dreadnought it had adapted so well that it withstood multiple Dreadnought power punches.

[Frost]

Hmmm so the more opponents he fights the more resilient he becomes..

[guyverfanatic]

Hmmm so the more opponents he fights the more resilient he becomes..

Sounds like a Guyver version of Doomsday!

[*zeo]

More like Doomsday/Terminator but yeah, was pretty much the idea minus the hero dying part.

[guyverfanatic]

More like Doomsday/Terminator but yeah, was pretty much the idea minus the hero dying part.

Sounds good to me.

[Frost]

Hmmm is Eliminator still around or did Dreadnought get rid of him? What if there is no Alkanphel or Fiona than what would he do?

[Juggernought]

He's in a cocoon regenerating most likely. With FWG out of the way he'd probably stick with who ever his "master" was a part of.

[Frost]

So presently that would be Imakaru.. can that guy even talk/ communicate or is he like a pitbull? point and he shreds to pieces?

[Juggernought]

Apparantly it can communicate and function with intelligence if it is able to follow orders as well as protect its master, which it has done. It seems to be somewhat like a Kavzar, human like at base but the armored form is permanent. Also since it is created by the matrix with warrior technology, its intelligence would be enhanced by this as it adapts and learns how to defeat new opponents each time

[Spartan Warlord]

So presently that would be Imakaru.. can that guy even talk/ communicate or is he like a pitbull? point and he shreds to pieces?

Alk is his matster so i doubt Imakaru would be able to control him at all