Grakkens, what do you think you know.

[Sully]

Ok guys, this is a relevent enough question and with up coming planned fiction (those of you who where here for the vote) know that Dreadnought is planned to do something after 7 days.

So the question is this. The Grakken race. What do you know of them and what do you think they are capable of?

[Guest]

Ok, going off the very limited memories I have about them (I'm too wiped to reread it just yet, so please don't yell at me if I state something stupid ) we know that

1) They were used as test subjects at some point by the Creators.

2) They've developed their own upgrade for their units by adapting Creator tech to their own, among other stuff

and

3) They have possible information about the enemy the Creators were originally trying to build an army to fight against.

so what could they be capable of?

Well I think that the Graks could possibly have another upgrade waiting in the wings to use on their bio armor that could possibly make them a threat to some of the higher powered characters. Its also possible that they know where this enemy of the creators is, and might be preparing to assist it in the battle against the creators.

[Guest]

Okay due to real realy limited memory i'll post what i know.

1) They were a peaceful race untill the creators used them as lab rats and now they are wanting revenge. They are a very powerfull enemy and cannot be underestimated.

[thanosfan82586]

The Grakkens in the past had posed a major threat to the Creators (well until the Enforcer Kavzars were created). Everything that they've sent to Earth is a miniscule amount of their total forces. As to what they are capable of, they are sort of an unknown variable in the story. They have a vested interest in destroying anything linked to the Creators, but they have made exceptions like the Guyvers mercenaries.

[BloodStorm]

We all know the Grakken hate the creators... and ussually kill or destroy any-creator tech they can find, or try to use it for there own means untill they can rebuild it with thier own technology, or something along those lines.

Yet it's also been pointed out that they've made exceptions to this, The guyver Mercanaries.. ofcourse the Grakken will only use the mercanaries as long as conveniant, then destroy them.. but thats how all evil races handle mercanaries from the enamy species..

The way I see it though.. is the Grakken are a sort of wildcard at the moment.. if negotiations can be made, then I can perhaps see a possable outcome of the Grakken and the Human races allied against the creators.. atleast untill the common enamies are destroyed..

[Armageddon]

1) The Grakkens's or a race of Guyver like beings that hate the Creators, because they experimented on them and left them horribly mutated with a bunch of their people dead.

Because of this, they're seeking out any creation that the Creators made and attempt to kill it.

2) They developed upgrades for their armor that can put them on almost even ground with the Creators warriors. The Creators may see this as a possible threat.

3) Throughout the storyline, we've only seen a few Grakkens's out of possibly hundreds of millions or billions of them. The Creators see that as a definite threat.

4) Also throughout the storyline . we've seen the Cloaked Man picking up parts of various Guyvers, the Grakkens's may be using this to make their own set of warriors, or one big monster.

Armageddon.

[McAvoy]

Since most of it has been stated.

Their upgrades are based off of the old standard units, nothing more. I believe that their base unit is also upgraded which is why they have a third layer. A third layer in their CM does not appear out of nowhere even in a Guyver effect. The control medal's design is only thing that remains constant. But however they appear they can use standard Guyver technology to double their power. Anything outside that type of technology like developing a self sustained power system like a HSL is out of their league. Which personally, the Grakkens are smart but it'll take them more time to develop any stolen technology.

This is a theory, but I think their must be some sort of more powerful Grakken out there. Maybe a Gigantic Grakken or something. Think about it, yes Grakken Destroyers are powerful but require to be within ten miles of their ships. That limits them. Without that upgrade all they are, are little more than upgraded Guyvers.

[Frost]

Well the Grakens are a warrior race hell bent upon revenge, if given the chance they could certainly become a threat to the Creators currently they are not so powerful but i am pretty sure they are trying to bridge the gap.

If the Grakkens were to form an alliance with Chronos or any other race which has the same hostile feeling they may stand a fighting chance otherwise i don't see them posing a threat in the immediate future unless of course they discover a way to counter the power of the Enforcer Kavzars.

[McAvoy]

Which is why I think there may be a few more powerful Grakkens out there beyond the Grakken Destroyer. Let's say that they do match the Aceaers, Kavzars and Kavzar Commanders in sheer numbers or brute power. They really don't possess anything to our official knowledge to kill a Enforcer Kavzar. All the Creators have to do is suck up the resources needed to produce let's say a million Enforcer Kavzars, and that war would be over.

Officially, yes they are always looking for newer unit types like a Warrior Guyver. But like I said, it would take time for them to actually reproduce it, which even the Creators haven't (case in point WG5) and actually understand the workings of the unit to do something like they did to the standard unit. If they did a Warrior Grakken Destroyer would still only be in the 10x to 16x range, but in the billions.

[McAvoy]

Something weird just happened, when I tried to post a pretty lengthy response. So I'll just summarize it.

They are always looking for newer types like a Warrior unit prototype or even a Warrior unit. But even if they did they get such a unit, they still would need time to reproduce it successfully and even more time to understand the tecnology. Even if they did what they did to a standard to a Warrior unit, you're still looking at a Warrior Grakken Destroyer in the 10x to 16x range.

Right now, I think they should have some sort of counter to the Enforcer Kavzar maybe not in brute power but maybe some sort of weapon or even multiple beings.

[Matt Bellamy]

Something weird just happened, when I tried to post a pretty lengthy response. So I'll just summarize it.

They are always looking for newer types like a Warrior unit prototype or even a Warrior unit. But even if they did they get such a unit, they still would need time to reproduce it successfully and even more time to understand the tecnology. Even if they did what they did to a standard to a Warrior unit, you're still looking at a Warrior Grakken Destroyer in the 10x to 16x range.

Right now, I think they should have some sort of counter to the Enforcer Kavzar maybe not in brute power but maybe some sort of weapon or even multiple beings.

And you should know McAvoy, there is no double posting allowed.

[McAvoy]

It wasn't what I meant to do. When I posted the second post, I thought the website did not post the first reply. Instead I got transferred to some site saying they could not find warriorguyver.com or something. Besides you can tell I was rehashing what I was saying before.

[Guest]

Was it not the Grakkens that first found the Hunter/Darmon Crystal being and experimented on it, they could have gained some very iteresting technology from the Darmon Crystal.

[*zeo]

Was it not the Grakkens that first found the Hunter/Darmon Crystal being and experimented on it, they could have gained some very iteresting technology from the Darmon Crystal.

(Slams a very large mallet on Darkness's head for being too lazy to check fic for facts) No the Darmon Crystal was stolen from the Creators by the Grakken's who had no idea what it was. They only knew it was powerful and dangerous so they used it to enhance one of their experiment killer drones but the Creators captured it and experimented on it, not realizing the Darmon crystal was inside it, this is when the Hunter in the fic came to be and escaped from the Creators before heading to Earth. It is only after the Hunter was destroyed and Crystallite was created that the true nature of the Darmon crystal was revealed.