Kamui de' Tempest

Back to the Matrix and XT thing, don't forget......XT has Multi-Dimensional properties in his armor, which is what allows him an actual physical form. so,....Multi-Dimensional Energy + Quantum Fields = a realllly bad headache ie; Anubis and Dreadnuaght and Dreadnaught and XT.

Gotta remember that the Giant Unit is more of a complimentary enhancement than an overall enhancement like the warrior gigantic. It's just like asking if a regular Guyver merged totally with an Acear or a Gigantic, which would be more powerful?

se...told ya....he's a scrapper for real.

I'd think i'd get all hooked up like Raiden from MSG4 http://media.video.ign.com/ev/sv.html?dlURL=ps3movies.ign.com/ps3/video/article/803/803878/mgs4_071107_flvlowwide.flv&object_ID=714044 http://media.video.ign.com/ev/sv.html?dlURL=ps3movies.ign.com/ps3/video/article/712/712983/mgs41080i_061606_flvlowwide.flv&object_ID=714044 *Raiden's one bad mamma jamma**he's at the end of them*

Well, if that's the case then Dreadnaught has even more untapped potential than he realizes. Wish someone would hand him the "Matrix for dummies" book.

This might be alittle off topic but....when a Matrix interacts with a Unit or other form of tech, does it remember it. like a browser history on a web browser, except more detailed? Cause if so, Jason has WGC's data as well as others which might allow him to update his repertoire of abilities with those gleamed from other Units?

That may be true, but after reading his df again it left me with the impression that XT is going to be undergoing some growth in the future. I mean really, he was semi pivotal in the GWOTG Uni. and now he's in the WG Uni. where nearly everyone under the sun is undergoing some type of power growth. You've got W'Kar Repo's popping up, people merging with Universaly tools like it's the business, Zoanoids getting WG's and Guyver units all outlandish like, and not to mention what he just came from. I mean really, XT is a scrapper, always has been, but his time will come in the WG Uni.

I almost forgot about that tricky little metal.

If I was one to compare a W'Kar and WG against each other, it would seem like they are similar in that they where both made for fighting. The difference being that the W'Kar was created for sheer brute power and the Warrior Guyver was made for power but through function. Like the end results the same but the road taken to get there was different.

Why do you say he isn't entirely human anymore? Is it because he has access to his powers in his human form?

I don't think that the Giga Unit told Sho how to grow that big. I think it was a based on him wanting more power to defeat the Zoalord. But, if Agito was around for that spectacle, then it would stand to reason that he now knows how to do it himself. I have a question though. Is there a factor of Synchronization between the Giga unit and it's host? I mean, does Sho synch with it better than Agito does because he was part of the creation of it? I ask this because I was watching Evangelion earlier and they where really adaminent about the synch ratio's, is that something to be taken into account for Sho being the first to do alot of things ability wise with the Gigantic?

The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence. Simply because you don't have evidence that something does exist doesn't mean you have evidence that something doesn't exist. Because they're known knowns and they're known unknowns, but they're also unknown unknowns. Things that we don't know that we don't know. *I couldn't help myself....was watching a Boondocks repeat* http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9R-Et6sezs

But lets not forget her Crystalite infection either. That's definently going to have some portence in upcoming events. A Matrix Crystalite enhanced warrior Guyver....a more powerful in control version of crystalite me thinks.

I was looking the WG site at the pictures section( the picture is currently being used as the WG.com Banner) and I found three Guyvers I couldn't name. So I was wondering if I couldget some help. The first two are in the lower right hand corner next to the novas and under tonnin. Ones a female white guyver and the other is a rather large looking dark guyver. And the other is a Guyver Thancuras (not sure) from the looks of it. I tried looking through the DF's ( might want to try harder i think) but came up with no luck for them. Any ideas?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_body http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_matter These could also be interesting alternative power source/management systems for a stellar scout class guyver.

As per request....yet again.... here he is!! The One, The Only, The Atrahasis!!! Give him a round of applause everybody!!! (OR DIE.....slow) Zoaform Type: Advanced W'Kar/Warrior/Jy-taki/Kavzar/Zoalord Hybrid Creator Warrior Common Name: Atrahasis Height: 22 foot 3 inches Weight: 6386 lbs Host: Extra Dimensional Hybrid Creator Army Warrior Kavzar Official Position: Lost Alignment: Creator Army A being created from combining 3 types of technology. Jy-taki and W'Kar tech from this world and Warrior Kavzar tech from another. Only the first step of this army, the Atrahasis would have filled the spot a Jy-taki, or Warrior Kavzar did in the creator armies. With still the Commander and Enforcer class Atrahasis to go, as well as the 'Orobouras' type for each class, the Atrahasis army would have been the grandest in all dimensions. Speed and Durability Speed: The Atrahasis has the ability to by will create a temporal dilation field boosting his speed to half that of light speed. At his boosted modes of 2X and 3X, The Atrahasis can move at Light Speed and double light speed (360,000 MP/S) Strength and Durability: Has a base strength of 6,000 men, and when in subjects boosted modes can reach 11,000 and 14,000 men. Durability of the armor is incredible and can withstand a Gigantic Class Mega Smasher, combined with a natural body shield and energy dampening subject can withstand up to 5X a Mega Smasher unshielded. Using Various shielding techniques, including, but not limited to a Pressure Cannon shield, Bubble like Gigantic shield, energy field and omni-directional field and blast field, subject can withstand up to 70X a Guyvers Mega Smasher, 130X in boosted and 190X in full boosted mode. Hypersenses: Highly advanced sensory perception allowing subject to track several targets in space or hyperspace and has an effective range of approximately 100 miles, 500 if tracking a single target. Can scan hyperspace and all spectrums, relaying information both as natural senses and an HUD (heads-up-display). Can read a subjects bio level giving approximate information on subjects abilities at the moment. Also has limited forms of telepathy allowing him to read into possible futures and scan non-guyvers minds. Weapons System: Head Laser: Powerful bio energy burst approximating a Gigantic Guyvers Mega Smasher. Has orbs on both the forehead and both palms. When in boosted modes subject can reach 2X Gigantic Level and 3X a Mega Smasher. When combined together the weapons can reach 6X in normal, 12X in boosted, and 18X in full boosted. Pressure Cannon: Can be formed two ways, through a bio energy compression system or normal gravity weapon. Each shot ranges in between 30X a Mega Smasher, to 50X in boosted mode and 100X in full boost. Combined with subjects shielding improves power by 30% in all modes. Subject has also shown the ability to create a weapon called the Gravity Crusher, which rips and crushes gravity around a target literally shrinking them to 1/3 their size and releasing in an explosion which cause severe damage to even high shielded targets. Sonic Emitters: Range in power from 100X that a normal guyver to 300X. Can be concentrated on single target or spread to over 360 degrees. At full power can reach 10X a Guyvers Mega Smasher and up to 20X in boosted and 30X in full boosted mode. Bio Wave: Powerful bio energy wave weapon which expands and covers large areas easy. Weapon approximates 30X a Guyvers Mega Smasher. In boosted mode results in 60X and in full equals 80X. Polymorphic Plasma Swords: Made of a polymorphic material allowing blades to change shape and size and infused with plasma energy. Blades have even shown the ability to cut normal plasma blades and quantum polymorphic blades. Located at subjects elbows and dual mounted on subjects forearms. Mega Smasher: Weapon has over 80X the power of a normal mega smasher. At boosted mode maximum output is 150X and in full is 200X a Guyvers Mega Smasher. Unit can fire mega smasher as both a normal area and compressed beam. Units Mega Smasher also effects hyperspace. Other Advances Control Medal: Control Medal is a hybrid of W'Kar tech, Jy-taki Power Crystal, Warrior Guyver Pyramid medal and Zoalords Zoa-crystal. With the ability to keep the subject in a controlled state even in an unconscious form, as well as protecting itself with a natural shield twice the power of subjects body shielding. Contains a Bio Control System as well as 4 partial control units. Addition of the Jy-taki Power Crystal and Zoalords Zoa-crystal allows the Atrahasis to use both beings weaponry. Time Dilation: Using a Zoalords gravity abilities, combined with W'Kar Energy reserves and Warrior Guyver efficiency, The Atrahasis can create a limited event horizon allowing him to boost his speed as well as slow or speed targets to 1/500 of their normal pace. This ability can only be negated by another being with temporal powers of equal or stronger power. Hyper Space Link: A permanent link to hyperspace energy, allows subject to stay at almost full power at all times. After use of the boosted modes, the HSL is assisted by the Hyperspace Orb and increases the recharge rate to much faster than that ever shown by any unit. Cloaking: The unit can make the armor appear as anything. So it can give a chameleon effect, or keep the armor on and appear as clothing. Having complete control over his armor the Atrahasis can make himself appear as any being. Boost: Combination of Warrior Rage and extra dimensional Cyclone Power Matrix, The Atrahasis has two boosted modes. The first is full CPM mode where subjects power is boosted 2X their normal abilities with little loss of strength. The second is a combo of CPM and Warrior Rage. In this boost mode of 3X, the subject can only withstand using it for a maximum of 2 minutes before all power has been drained and host has suffered immense strain. Hyperspace Orb and Warrior Guyver Protection System: The unit also can send the host into Hyper Space to recover from battle or teleport automatically. A battle backup transports the control medal into hyper space so it can remake the host's body without interference. Combined with Warrior Guyver teleportation and the Hyperspace Orb allows subject to pull immense amounts of energy from subjects HSL at high speeds to recharge his energy reserves in less than 10 minute. There ya go. The Big A in all his former glory. I mean really, when you think about it......he's nothin but a big ol' teddy anyways. [/img]

Negative emotions...primarily Anger, produce what i think was called negative bio energy or something of the like. It's more potent. So realizing that, the Unit W altered the bio chemical make up of Greg's brain to facilitate the production of said emotions which in turn produces a more powerful form of bio energy.

i beg to differ. in another thread, i believe, that it was said that Anubis could goto different dimensions but couldn't take anyone along with him because his way of travel is hard or fatale on others. Thus, with the creation of Zagam he is no longer limited to only him being able to travese the multiverse. he now has a shepard for his flock.

I don't know....the Symbionts are a parasitic lifeform. Like bacteria or some other single celled organism but on a much grander scale and if i'm right. when a regular guyvers bonds with a host it doesn't get rid of the parasites already in the body right? even still, Carange is another good example. Kletus and the alien have merged, the alien now resides in his blood. Would a guyver shunt the alien and thus his blood out. I think the guyver might selectively do something of this level. Weeding what may pose an issue out and leaving the benificial parasites intact. I mean after all, if not then all the Guyver hosts would need to get thier immunizations all over again when human right?

I asked which one you was talking about because the prior versions of Jean was still getting used to and acclimated to the whole host thing and thusly not fully aware of their combind ablities. The powerlevel is still the same but much like Dreadnaught when he first appeared versus him now the knowledge of what he can do is vastly different. The Pheonix Force by its very nature is a cosmic entity. but it took awhile for Jean to learn the extent of her new found abilities. Remember, the Dark Pheonix ate a star for grins and giggles. It takes a vast amount of power (I'm sure McAvoy or Zeo can better elaborate on the mechanics and math) to snuff out a star and contain the resulting energy without breaking a sweat and to just do it.

I know what your talking about, I remember that from Gigantic Descending. I think it has to do with the extending of the antennas because it wasn't done before or after they extended. Maybe it was something akin to a piston like process? Still, I think the rebreather ports still function as a waste venting system for both forms.

Ok.....before I go into who would win this one, let ask for some clarifications. Are we talking about Jean when she first bonded to the Pheonix Force or as she is now, cause if it's as she is now I think this will answer your question: She can hold universes in the palms of her hands. I currenty don't have the resources to back my statement as I'm writing this post on my phone but with mild research on her current powerlevel by Marvel standards is that of a god like being in every sensebof the phrase. She can and has wiped out entire realities to allow others to grow, which is what the Pheonix Force is supposed to do , I like to think of it as the Multiverses gardener...pruninig realities that don't work or aren't supposed to be to allow ones that are. I don't even think W'Kar on his best day on crack and Vault can touch that. I mean most if not all the DF's have been measured to real world units ie.. megatons of TNT and the like. How can that measure up to something with force and ability cultivate or destroy realities and dimensions and whatever other ies and sions are out there?

as per the request.....good thing I backed up the old GWOTG site. Zoaform Type: Advanced W'Kar/Warrior/Jy-taki/Kavzar/Zoalord Hybrid Creator Warrior Common Name: Atrahasis Height: 22 foot 3 inches Weight: 6386 lbs Host: Extra Dimensional Hybrid Creator Army Warrior Kavzar Official Position: Lost Alignment: Creator Army A being created from combining 3 types of technology. Jy-taki and W'Kar tech from this world and Warrior Kavzar tech from another. Only the first step of this army, the Atrahasis would have filled the spot a Jy-taki, or Warrior Kavzar did in the creator armies. With still the Commander and Enforcer class Atrahasis to go, as well as the 'Orobouras' type for each class, the Atrahasis army would have been the grandest in all dimensions. Speed and Durability Speed: The Atrahasis has the ability to by will create a temporal dilation field boosting his speed to half that of light speed. At his boosted modes of 2X and 3X, The Atrahasis can move at Light Speed and double light speed (360,000 MPS) Strength and Durability: Has a base strength of 6,000 men, and when in subjects boosted modes can reach 11,000 and 14,000 men. Durability of the armor is incredible and can withstand a Gigantic Class Mega Smasher, combined with a natural body shield and energy dampening subject can withstand upto 5X a Mega Smasher unshielded. Using Various shielding techniques, including, but not limited to a Pressure Cannon shield, Bubble like Gigantic shield, energy field and omni-directional field and blast field, subject can withstand upto 70X a Guyvers Mega Smasher, 130X in boosted and 190X in full boosted mode. Hypersenses: Highly advanced sensory perception allowing subject to track several targets in space or hyperspace and has an effective range of approximately 100 miles, 500 if tracking a single target. Can scan hyperspace and all spectrums, relaying information both as natural senses and an HUD (heads-up-display). Can read a subjects bio level giving approximate information on subjects abilities at the moment. Also has limited forms of telepathy allowing him to read into possible futures and scan non-guyvers minds. Weapons System: Head Laser: Powerful bio energy burst approximating a Gigantic Guyvers Mega Smasher. Has orbs on both the forehead and both palms. When in boosted modes subject can reach 2X Gigantic Level and 3X a Mega Smasher. When combined together the weapons can reach 6X in normal, 12X in boosted, and 18X in full boosted. Pressure Cannon: Can be formed two ways, through a bio energy compression system or normal gravity weapon. Each shot ranges in between 30X a Mega Smasher, to 50X in boosted mode and 100X in full boost. Combined with subjects shielding improves power by 30% in all modes. Subject has also shown the ability to create a weapon called the Gravity Crusher, which rips and crushes gravity around a target literally shrinking them to 1/3 their size and releasing in an explosion which cause severe damage to even high shielded targets. Sonic Emitters: Range in power from 100X that a normal guyver to 300X. Can be concentrated on single target or spread to over 360 degrees. At full power can reach 10X a Guyvers Mega Smasher and upto 20X in boosted and 30X in full boosted mode. Bio Wave: Powerful bio energy wave weapon which expands and covers large areas easy. Weapon approximates 30X a Guyvers Mega Smasher. In boosted mode results in 60X and in full equals 80X. Polymorphic Plasma Swords: Made of a polymorphic material allowing blades to change shape and size and infused with plasma energy. Blades have even shown the ability to cut normal plasma blades and quantum polymorphic blades. Located at subjects elbows and dual mounted on subjects forearms. Mega Smasher: Weapon has over 80X the power of a normal mega smasher. At boosted mode maximum output is 150X and in full is 200X a Guyvers Mega Smasher. Unit can fire mega smasher as both a normal area and compressed beam. Units Mega Smasher also effects hyperspace. Other Advances Control Medal: Control Medal is a hybrid of W'Kar tech, Jy-taki Power Crystal, Warrior Guyver Pyramid medal and Zoalords Zoa-crystal. With the ability to keep the subject in a controlled state even in an unconscience form, as well as protecting itself with a natural shield twice the power of subjects body shielding. Contains a Bio Control System as well as 4 partial control units. Addition of the Jy-taki Power Crystal and Zoalords Zoa-crystal allows the Atrahasis to use both beings weaponry. Time Dilation: Using a Zoalords gravity abilities, combined with W'Kar Energy reserves and Warrior Guyver efficiency, The Atrahasis can create a limited event horizon allowing him to boost his speed as well as slow or speed targets to 1/500 of their normal pace. This ability can only be negated by another being with temporal powers of equal or stronger power. Hyper Space Link: A permanent link to hyperspace energy, allows subject to stay at almost full power at all times. After use of the boosted modes, the HSL is assisted by the Hyperspace Orb and increases the recharge rate to much faster than that ever shown by any unit. Cloaking: The unit can make the armor appear as anything. So it can give a chameleon effect, or keep the armor on and appear as clothing. Having complete control over his armor the Atrahasis can make himself appear as any being. Boost: Combination of Warrior Rage and extradimensional Cyclone Power Matrix, The Atrahasis has two boosted modes. The first is full CPM mode where subjects power is boosted 2X their normal abilities with little loss of strength. The second is a combo of CPM and Warrior Rage. In this boost mode of 3X, the subject can only withstand using it for a maximum of 2 minutes before all power has been drained and host has suffered immense strain. Hyperspace Orb and Warrior Guyver Protection System: The unit also can send the host into Hyper Space to recover from battle or teleport automatically. A battle backup transports the control medal into hyper space so it can remake the host's body without interference. Combined with Warrior Guyver teleportation and the Hyperspace Orb allows subject to pull immense amounts of energy from subjects HSL at high speeds to recharge his energy reserves in less than 10 minute.

I see Zagam as Jason personal Id manifested and given form. Even Anubis seems that way to me.

I'm of the unlucky few who have not read any of the manga, so i have no idea of what you speak of.