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Ok.. Basically I've come to the conclusion that this won't be wrote up by X-Mas / New years. So what I've decided to do is stop part 2 not exactly where it is now but end it at a good point (realitively speaking, but the main plot of who did what is shown) in the story that you guys might like. Overall it looks like there willl be an XMas update and Time War will now be a 5 part story. P.S. No idea when James will get back to his editing ways but lets hope it's soon.

It's not giving away much to say, it's exactly like the WG2 and WG3 (if you removed Solom's memory store). This is a different matter... No Comment No Comment (though shouldn't be hard to guess). Sho's Unit's data file won't go up until he actually has a fight. Though art for him still needs to be done. Yeah for the time being I'm staying focused on re-writes. What we plan in the future makes no sense as a Guyver story when you take what we know now and look back at the old ones with an unforgiving look. Even more so since they have small edits from the past to try and tie them up. Stories like Rescue for example completely annoy me (I've said why in other sections of the forum but basically it sucks and is all over the place plot wise), the start of All Things Change is another. All Things Change should signal the Gen's return and the impact it has. Guyver XT9 will have a much more of a role as a harbenger of doom knowing the dark side of the Gen. This will again also have more impact after the new start to Time War as you get to see who the Gen are. Deslexia's a bitch... but yeah I do it and will continue to do it. This is why James edit's my stories Amuro Ray wasn't my creation host wise. But I'm not suprised giving Matt's like of Gundam and possibly Andre's as well. Carter wasnt named after SG1, my brother in law is a Carter so that's where it came from. O'Neill is though from that, there's other insperation for names that I use. Some from RL, can't remember the name right off but that Air Force officer who intruduced Gilgamesh is a name I found on the net who is in command of that base at the time I wrote it. Most names are either made up from no where (see Time War), a little bit of research and changing a name I've seen, or in some casessimply taken from someone I've met in person.

So in the re-write, Agito would not or will not have gained the spheres, or he did and secretely kept a Gigantic to himself without informing Sho and the others? Just want to get that out. Even before the re-write it was decided Agito never got the sphere's. As a plot device Agito never won the battle in Arizona (I'm sure somewhere in revenge it comments on him having being there before or did after an edit a long time ago). The fan-fic basically had Aigot and Sho sharing the Gigantic which is wrong to have done. So only thing changing there is Sho will not in any of the fan-fics share his Gigantic with Agito. When WG2 arrives in the main fiction it will have a lot more impact what he unwitingly causes by bringing with him what he did.

I already know I won't go into it in Time War, but there will be a story later that will give more detail to the Eilminator project. There's a great line in Mutronics (the first Guyver movie) which is something on the lines of "Not all Zoanoids are created equally". The same will can be said of Guyvers especially in the Fan-Fic. So there is your hint about what to expect in that up and coming story. The main thing I'll explain is that Cori (Battle Guyver) will be a lot more used character wised in the rewirtes and up coming stories. Given events of 7 Days read the above and you can get an idea of what I'm thinking of as the next upcoming plot. Back to Time War it's update time. The last two weeks I didn't get much done at all for a simple reason. I was on holidays and enjoying them. Back in work again so the fic is progressing. I've re-wrote some of the re-write so that it makes more sense what has happened. The Guyver Zoalord has being born and his impact will shape a lot of events that already happeend in the fan-fic and ones that some of you wouldn't have expected him to have shaped. There is going to be a lot of action happening at the end of Part 2, basically it will include some new events, events that where included in the Old intro to Part 1, and also bring in events from Solufein you see in Allen's fic. That gives you a basic idea of where I am, and where I want to get too with this part of the story. Can't give and estimate of when this will be finished but hoping for a XMas / New Years release but it might be early in the new year itself depending on how much more I add to the story. One thing for sure though once Parts 3 and 4 are rewrote to match up with the new parts 1 and 2. I'll edit all 4 parts to make them more even rather than a small part 1 and a huuuuge part 2, and who knows how 3 and 4 will look.

Warning, not something you watch at work... or with kids around.... Or if you don't understand Irish humour!!!

There is one thing to bare in mind. Eliminator is heavily modifed to work off what was avilable to the Matrix so it could do what it required in the time it had avilable. Is it a true verion of what that project repesented?

Yup and in the rewrite we know a lot more of the offical story now compared to what we knew back then (it's also helps that I also have worked in a lot of offices since then and seen a lot of how people are deviced into ranked strutures, groups and office politics compared to when I first wrote a story). If you look at the offical story Chronos as an organisation left itself with a drastic weakness against the Guyvers. That being that once the leaders started falling there was nothing ready to replace them. The fan-fic (even more so since the rewrites have kicked in) is based on what happens after Arizona. But with one key diferrance Agito lost the battle and the Zoalords won but at great cost. 6 months later is where in the book Agito is now using his own Gigantic the fan-fic will be very different. Chronos will have it's first Prototype Zoalords in action. Zeus Thunderbolt will be on the run and it's into that world the Guyver II F will be released. All the while in the USA ACTF will grow in it's hidden bunker in the USA. The Proto-Zoalords who will later become Apprentice Zoalords (basically more stable Prototypes) will be their key opposition.

Best to leave that to the Fan-Fic section to chat about. If you guys want to make a new topic there I've no problems but I like to keep this area clear of fic topics and chats. Acording to the translation it's simple why Gigantic Dark wasn't turned into something new. Agito's control medal had the information stored within it needed to convert the Nav sphere into a Gigantic. It gained this information thanks to Guyver 1 and even locked out from ever using Sho's Gigantic again, thanks to having this information that is all Agito needed to get what he wanted. As for the bio-material I don't think that is important to the Control Medal of the Nav speare in the grand scheme of things and once given the needed information it can trigger a growth. It also had Guyver 3's own body to work from. At most that is all it needed and time. Which Agito had as this is based 6 months after the fall of Arizona.

Yup, though looks like we've to wait 2 months to find out what happens next. Next month is a break for Takaya :/ Really looking forward to seeing how this all plays out.

Kinda No Comment But lets put it this way, Time War rewrite will answer a lot of questions. There will be others left unanswered leaving stuff open for the future stories as well has new questions. :

Update time again. Not done much writing the last 2 days. instead I've being planning out the last section of time Part 2 part. Problem is the story has got to a complex stage as it's hit a section where we've some complex events happen in different locations. 1. Fulton Balcus - Needs to be nearly killed and left in a Ruin for him to be discovered/awoken years later. Makes more sense logistically that this happens in / Near the USA (less to travel for him to make his base in LA and then be envolved in the events leading to and the creation of Guyver US and the frist live action movie). 2. Guyver 0 frozen to be found in Matt's story. No knowledge of what happened in Time war. 3. The Proto Unit why was it found where it was (Matt's fiction)? 4. All those other random events that link with the above and events in Allen's story and MAtt's that need not to be messed up by my re-write of Time War. I've it pretty much planned out and I've other sub plots from 1 and 2 that will cary out as new elements of the story in Part's 3 and 4. So hopefully should get back to writing stuff soon rather than planning the story out. But so far what is planned is good.

Aptom has being trapped before by absorbing something bad (the cloaking Zoanoid for exmaple). So wouldn't be the first time and wouldn't be the last if Libertus's short life spam became his.

thing is I wonder if Aptom would want to absorb them. They burn up too quickly, only have a 2 year at most lifespan. This might be a zoanoid Aptom is better off not absorbing and he might know it (he has a sense of zoa-forms simular in a way to Zoalords).

Slit this topic so I could go back to updating you all on planned changes. Time War 2 is getting closer to completion, with that said once it is complete it's time to move onto actual rewites. Cori will be my next major focus in planning for rewrites. The character for simple lack of the word is VERY under developed only getting her moments when resuced (and that was small) to the first parts of All Things Change. So needless to say she will have a lot more to do in the re-writes though will still be more of a support character. Needless to say I've being thinking a lot about the Rescue story. As it stands it's simply my least favourite story. I like some of the ideas it brings but there are things that simply don't make sense. Like how a Guyver can command a Grakken craft? Simple how can that be possible? Yes the Grakken are a Guyver basically, but still they where at war with the Gen, wouldn't their tech be designed to stop the Gen from commanding it? Yes it would so why the hell do the Guyvers get control the Grakken Mothership at all? The more I think about it lately the more "Rescue" is looking like totally being scrapped and wrote again from scratch. It's not like "Revenge", that story might have lacked some punch in some respects but it's a good story overall in the way it works. I'll add more to it in the re-write to give a lot more detail on how Chronos changed over the years since Agito attacked (and in the books blew up) the base. Rescure to me though in it's basic elements works but how it was delivered does not (probably because at the time I wasn;t willing to scrap it when Mike came along and contributed the cool idea of Guyver XT). Rescue is the result of this, plots come out of no where. At the moment I'm thinking on the lines of this. 1. Overall plot Recure of Cori (hence the stories name). What have they being doing to her being the main plot. What have they being up to since arriving to Earth. 2. Subplot 1, Europe what is happening there since Revenge. Warrior Guyver 2 and the ACTF trying to make a base of operations in Germany in an old Nato base seems a more realistic prospect than what was previously shown. 3. Subplot 2. The Kavzar left behind my Draven (yep that still happens but in a different way than before) and it's battle in Russia with Chronos forces as it seeks revenge for the falled Solom and redemption for it's falure. Again this seems a more interesting building plot. 4. Guyver XT and his "sister" will not happen in this story but in All Things Change Part 1. So that element of the story in Rescue will simply be removed. 5. The Fall of Searph begins the story. As mentioned before in 7 Days her fleet will be removed, this allows the Grakken's to act.

Due to this part of the GRakken post turning more into a topic about what Alkanphel will become I'm splitting it off from the main topic so I can use it more for what it was orginally for and also so you guys can continue guessing what we've planned. Have fun :

Chronos wouldn't have a one method fits all policy. Look at that the 13 offical Zoalords. 1. Valkus by pure luck found Alkanphel in his sleeping chamber. For waking him up near present times Alkanphel basically picks the first modren human he met and made him the first Zoalord (this is unknown how). 2. The rest are all selected by Valkus to make an army for Alkanphel. He goes looking for "Great men". Out of these it's unknown what he used as bases of selecting people. But we know it wasn't that all where "men". One being a living Island of plant like zoanoids who needed the Zoalord crystal of have a human like form. 3. imakarum he wasn't selected to be a Zoalord. He was captured and an old school teacher of his was years eariler captured by Chronos and forced to work for them. that teacher selected Murakami to be a test body for Gyro. The teacher did it so he'd someone who would help him kill Gyro who it knew wanted a Guyver Unit to become a Guyver Zoalord. After his dead at the hands of Gyro it was Akanphel that chose him to be the replacement and 12th Zoalord. So looking at the offical line of Zoalords, some are selected for very different reasons, some are selected because of pure bad luck and others for pure good luck (n the case of those that actually wanted this). As for the Aprentise Zoalords in the fan-fiction you're talking of the best and brightest hyper-zoanoid hopefuls, the likes of Risker and Valcuria who where obviously trained and wanted to be in Chronos. This is shown in All Things Change with the introduction of the Twin Zoalords who rule Brazil for Chronos. They where homeless and raised by Chronos. To them Chronos is everything, their mother father and family. Drano then for example would fit more into a mixture of luck and skill. Remember in the fan-fiction I'm taking a more realistic view of how people act. Chronos isn't Good or Evil to 90% of the world in the fiction. They got rid of poverty, hunger and most illnesses and did more for areas like Africa in 1 year that than the rest of the world did in last centry. A lot of the world would want what they have to give. A lot of the world would be thankful for it too. the fiction hasn't really touched on this as it's being based in the USA, Japan, China (realistically this would be a mix, some very rich and VERY poor people there) and Europe some of of the welthest Zones on Earth. Chronos wouldn't have made a huge difference there to a lot of people and most like in the USA would be resentful for their change in government. The rest fo the world though wouldn't see it that way as easily. The rest of the world found itself on an even footing and now enjoy what Chronos has to give. So what if a few decide to be zoanoids, they chose that (remember in the offical stories chronos media promotes the advantages of having being zoaformed) and exceed for it for their family and freinds. A man in a previously war ravaged African country where in the past his children would be of very high risk for mortality due to simple lack of food would love Chronos for what it did. ALL his children would now live, clean water, food, education, medicne, a living protecton from war rebels (it's not like Chronos is going to allow wars and in the books offically they ended wars so indeed the zoanoid army would be seen as saviors)... Would those people be looking forward to the old world coming back or hoping for Chornos? Simply put, Chronos will have BILLIONS of people wanting to be in Chronos, they can pick and chose the best to be a Zoalord with ease.

Strangely for me I felt the story couldn't go forward as mine was without doing the re-write. Because simply it didn't work as it was and to me didn't feel like a Guyver story. But in the rewrite I've also moved the story along while filling in a LOT of missing gaps. For Allen he's to decide what gaps he wants to fill, what he wants to add and then is it worth it and if he leaves it behind how bad the story will be because of the wholes left in the plot. For me it's being fun doing the re-write as I can add a lot to what is missing and as said before I've actually moved the story forward and given some characters a lot more story so they are actually characters. When I hit Meetings that too might be in line for some minor editing (when Kullnar meets Dibby), but thats another day and will worry about that then

Orginal post updated

This is answered in All Things Change.

I aggree there, this story will be a big shift from what we where used to with the "Creators" and how they where shown v now the Gen and how they will be shown. The porblem in the past was in a way we didn't want to show characters within the Creators. Everyone of them was somewhat the same, and felt cold and non character in a way, they just where there as a plot device really. Solom was just there to make a unit and die. It's only later that the death is felt but Krullnar barely shows it. Strangely it's only in Meetings, with an alternative universe Krullnar that we see them shown any real emotion at all, and that was revenge and hate. In a way they felt to me like Vulcan's but without the cool back story as we couldn't do it without someone going "Hey dude, Takaya never said the Creators where like that", which in a way the fiction thankfully is easier to rewrite for now because of this. I can actually make up the details of a race, give them a story, give them an impact in the overall fan-fiction and not suddenly claim "oh the Creators done this". It's working much better as a plot device to give them a reason to look for Earth, to want what Earth had, and importantly for them too not want to contact the Uranus / Creators / Federation. This gives the fan-fiction a controlled element where we can do what we need to give you a story. As for this like the back story to the Matrix, yes its nice to be able to show now how the ideas fit together in Time War. Should be a very good story when completed. I'm looking forward to getting back to work on Jason and getting the rest of Time War complete. I'd say way things are going we're looking at a before Chirstmas release of Time War part 2, the rest should follow soon after as I don't see parts 3 and 4 needing as much added to it. Only needing things brought in part 1 and 2 worked into the story and finished worked out properly. Update time, since putting up the above preview I've worth about another 500 words moving onto the rest of the story. It's getting a lot more fun to write as the villan of the story finally does something to show what he is up too. That's porbably part of the problem, I'm really enjoying writing this story so am not ending it too soon to make sure it works out. Not talking 7 days part 7 in size yet, but it's 24000 words in total and still needs a decent bit of story told, plots from other writers stories to be added (like the above from Zero which ties in what Guyver 0 rememebers in the first GuyverC story) and battles to happen before the Guyver Zoalord arrives.

Fulton is dead dude... he died in the first Live Action movie. In the fic time line that puts his death before Sho and Agito where active. Again though this is something All Things failed to show properly, Zeugma's place in the modren story. But that will be fixed in the re-write. As you see above, it's not about taking from the story but to add more to it.

As promised above is actual rewriting and adding a lot more detail to the days after the WG Unit was made (though the above hasn't be re-read, re-edited, so some bits have very poor grammer more so because I was rushing to finish this on the train this morning as I'd a good flow going). Things are picking up, characters are being forced or feeling forced into action all trigured by the near ending of the Warrior Project. You all know already the final event, but the process leading up to it was poorly presneted in the past and only hinted at... and those hints where crap. This time it will be in the actual story and there will be betrayal and it will probably leave you annoyed after reading it as not all the time do the good guys win or the bad guys really lose. Who said they where on opposite sides? They do? News to me... I didn't realise the Gen of the WG fic where dead set on wiping out the Earth... Speaking of Zeugma after re-reading what I wrote in the past. Pre - Meetings and 7 days the character was really under used, and felt a little lifeless. Sufice to say after you read Time War 1 and 2 you'll understand a lot more about the character as she was then, a highly controlled Zoalord. An agent of the Gen who had a more complex relationship with them than most of the Zoalords. In modren times she awakes to find all this gone, she calls for help and gets none, not even a responce. All Things Change does not do this well enough (there is a lot it doesn't do well enough). Remember the Gen are not bothered Zeugma is now alive, they know most if not all Units are active and out of those most will not even bond with Zeugma or any Zoalord. She's now simply part of the modren day testing. That would be telling. No Commet

That is actually not such a big deal as it used to be. The web server WG.com is now on is a lot LOT better than it was before. So making a new board on a different completely database (I've 2 now with them) will mean what happens there does not impact on this board at all. Though it would be a different messageboard so you guys who are interested in it would have to make new user accounts (or I could transfer the user accounts from this board, but would need a list and will clean up from there pruning out those not interested). Let me know what you decide and will go from there.

Update time (yep I know this is a double post of sorts, but a few days have gone by and have something worth while to add to keep you guys up to date). I'm finally actually re-writing in Time War. The build up is done and am now at the point the 5th WG Prototype is finished and in the story. Unlike before though it's not going to go right from that point into "OMG Guyver Zoalord!". There has being a lot of story before this moment, a lot more character building and important events that need to be closed off our built up to a point where they can continue on in the current storyline. At the moment the story is 21500 words approx. At a rough guess I'd say it is between 2/3 and 3/4 done. Hopefully this part will be easier to write in someways but the more important plot points will most likely take awhile. One thing is certain, the Guyver Zoalord this time will not just "happen". There will be the final build up and betrayals that allow him to get a Unit that will actually work for him. It's being kinda strange but good though to have such a large story without my main character in it. But it's being a good write so far and looking forward to how I finish this myself. Once I'm a few pages into this part of the story I'll post a preview of the story from the point the WG Unit has being created to give you guys a better idea of what is happening so far. P.S. Primitive Guyver (more so his host) is also now in the story but not going to make it obvious who it is (it should be guessable though).

The thing is he never had it on in WG 2's story. This will be helped plot wise by a more detailed intro in Time War 3 for Galen. In away he's is similar to Elera in that he is made for a purpose so comes to Earth in a similar way. Sufice to say my old story telling lacked that detail needed to sell that point in the story.