V Guyver

both came out great to be honest, though he might have to be made even bigger at least in sprite enlargement filter. I would prefer V2, but V1 would be easier to work with and some would consider it cleaner.

Welcome in. What love to see how this develops. I can learn a few things.

In agreement. Turned out he was just some hoodlum to begin with. Though to be fair, he probably didn't deserve to have a freakin truck pile drived on his body.

he has a point, no death is ever confirmed unless we see the actual corpse... and even then it could still be a body double zoanoid. XD

that would be pretty awesome though he's been trying to work in a less forward way. Him suddenly doing that would be a big turnaround in his modus operandi.

Agreeing with him, at that point Sho was already gone. Though if he had managed to get a hold of the control medal he would of become Sho again. Sho wouldn't have needed to regrow from scratch.

I like everything you mentioned except that though the Anime version was closer to the manga minus hiding in bushes, it was pretty damn silly. Animated goofs (Pay attention to the arm for animation errors) and animated a little silly, especially the guyver being Bitch Slapped. Zerbebuth against the Guyver. He's not an Enzyme, but he was the first opponent to use an acid attack that could damage the armor by corroding it. I wonder why they did focus on more acid based Zoanoids even though were effective. If I were Cronos, I would make a 100 disposable weak but fast self destructing Enzyme soldiers. Not only are they bred for fast kamikaze attacks, but I think numbers could simply overwhelm a Guyver. They wouldn't even need to use strength. Hmm...I definitely should've been born into Chronos.

Alky is pretty tough, and in his prime he'd put up a good fight, but Superman, classic or modern would beat him I think...but then again we haven't seen the full scope of his powers, right? Also, I have to point out that Guyver, despite all his prowess has a much bigger glaring weakness than most of the other characters. namely his control medal, granted it's what keeps him going and mega badass, but if it is actually destroyed, and it's a pretty obvious target I must admit. Yes, that's troubling. Other characters have bigger glaring weaknesses too, like being normal human, or weak to kryptonite, but others have little to no weaknesses. Now that I think about it, Captain Marvel/Shazam is even more deadly than Superman. If fighting a Guyver universe character. His lightning alone would be dangerous, and his has Superman classic and modern Superman's powers. ...Maybe we should rule out characters that are obviously too powerful or utterly stupid match ups. Just stick to similar characters to Guyver. Possible list of characters that would probably have a close match with the basic Guyver form. Just add to it. Doesn't have to be comics, movies, manga, anime, and Videogame need apply. Darkhawk Ironman Steel The Fantastic Four as a Team First Generation X-Men as a Team Cable from Marvel Nimrod the Future Sentinel from X-Men Vision from avengers Blue Beetle - Modern DC Alex Mercer from Prototype - though maybe it be a better fight if it were against Aptom. A Single Sentinal - Matrix movie. Cole - Infamous Dante - Devil May Cry Samus Aran - Metroid

According to the era, it was an was almost an entirely Ottoman controlled area save for a small strip of land in Persia. But he's still likely a mix of Persian and Turkish, possible Georgian too.

The OVA certainly made Enzyme to be a real monster. It had deceiving speed and range, and he wasn't going down from grizzly attacks. Still the strategies apply. Sho was just too inexperience I think. Since this was the most brutal and decent fight out of all the versions, I go by this one on how I set up a counter strategy. By the way, anyone else remember how that tail was being used to sweep attack? It was not really too long a tail, but massive still, it was such a large thing it could apparently bulldoze things with it's velocity. Apparently this half the reason it went right through Sho's armor like nothing.

Historical Armenia was a lot bigger than it is today. Makes you wonder if his hometown is now in a different nation entirely.

Well he had more bio lasers on his body than any zoalord, and could actually snipe with them in multiple directions. Zoanoid have multiple, some barriers are supposed to generated from their Zoa crystals and released through a physical medium I think. Murakami had to use his arms to generate them along with the crystal for an offensive barrier, as did guyot though he did it slightly different. So I guess there's a possibility those bio lasers also double as his barrier medium. They all seem to share a common barrier generation though, which is the standard defensive one with the zoa crystal emanating it without any physical movements. This is all just guess work from what I've seen though.

<p>Here we go again, the Goku comparisons. They even have contriversial youtube death battle video about it. XD</p>

That or he's tricked/forced into using it. I still recall Barcus having to help Guyot to save the planet despite Barcus just witnessing Alky get sucked away.

Must e awkward for the guy hand shaking or hugging is friends in that form. Those things look like a nasty piece of work you don't want to run into. Here I thought he was exclusively a long range type. Those arms make me think otherwise.

Is it messed up that Guyver is my favorite? Even more than Batman and Spiderman? Ryuki is right, it would be best to do that, but how is anyone going to strike a balance? Oh as for the Superman Movie, that entire movie is nothing but plot holes. Enjoy it for the action, and some of the soul searching, but a smart movie it is not. I did enjoy it though.

There's truth to what you said, but consider these things. Superboy Prime is essentially Pre-Crisis Superman (He's currently Superman with a power suit in the plot, but that is how DC writers explained it). So yeah, he can punch through realities, at least classic superman can. The current weakened version can't but they've been steadily been giving his powers back to that level over the years. Like it or not, Superman can perform the same feat. Even with this weakened superman, he can still move planets and fly to the sun and back to earth in minutes... very unlikely a Guyver is going to win, even in gigantic. He has some chances if he catches superman unguarded, but Superman also has super speed, the negates any advantage the Guyver could have. God damnit, I'm still trying to wrap my brain around the supernova in his hands crap, and he's fast enough to escape black holes. Also, if superman is getting trumped, he could always fly into the, and come back as a full God that can smite the Guyver with only a toothy grin and red eyes. batman has beaten everyone, I do mean everyone. The rule in DC is that given enough time he can beat any character, and even if not prepared, he's got enough skills hold his own. Don't get me wrong, everyone should be able to kill Batman, but they never do. considering Batman's armament, you don't think he has enough weapons that can potentially destroy the control metal. Even acid? To top it off, he can create Ironman grade Bat Armor to help hold is own. According to DC canon, he can already bench press 600lbs. (freakin stupid if you ask me since the max a human his size should only manage 400-500 lbs at max) While also managing to hold up a 1,000 lbs statue with his shoulders. Get him his bat power suit and well, you got a guy who can punch a Guyver. Of course Against a Gigantic it should be utterly impossible, but he's also beaten god knows how many being capable of fighting the gigantic. I'm going to virtually guarantee a batman death with gigantic, but they've broguht out batman clones out of their ass already to get him to survive somehow. Branian, he has hacked everything and doesn't need to actually do so since he can Fight Superman barehanded, he's slightly weaker than superman physically most of the time but can be upgraded, but all his weapons make up for it. And yes, do expect this alien machine to take over other alien technology, that is exactly what Brainiac does. He is the borg of technology since he wipes out planets and improves himself. Doesn't matter how advanced the civilization is, he hijacks it. According to the DC wiki: "Brainiac has a "12th-level intellect", allowing calculation abilities, enhanced memory and advanced understanding of mechanical engineering, bio-engineering, physics, and other theoretical and applied sciences, as well as extensive knowledge of various alien technologies. Compare this to the population of 20th century Earth as a whole constitutes a 6th-Level intelligence and the population of 31st century Earth as a whole is a 9th-Level intelligence. The character has created devices such as a force field belt[41] and a shrinking ray capable of reducing cities.[41] Brainiac's advanced mental powers have shown him capable of possessing others, absorbing information from other beings, transferring his consciousness,[42] creating and manipulating computer systems, replicating multiple versions of himself, and exerting powers to traverse or control space and time. John Byrne's re-imagining of the character possessed telepathy and telekinesis that were further augmented by an implanted electrode head-piece. The most recent version of Brainiac (a living Coluan who utilizes android "probes") is connected to his ship in such a way that he can be disabled for a short periods if separated without warning. While inside his ship he is capable of fighting evenly with and overpowering the likes of Superman. He heals from injuries at incredible speed. After being separated from the ship he physically starts to deteriorate and is far less powerful. He is a biological creature that has altered his body to acquire more knowledge to become "better." With his ship, knowledge, and technology, Brainiac has captured thousands of cities and destroyed just as many civilizations. He is considered one of the most powerful villains Superman has faced." So it's fair to say that since he's stolen technology and digested it, he can do so with the Guyver, even take over Sho's body if need me.Who knows, he might even create a remover from his own ass. I agree with you on Ironman. He always has an armor upgrade somewhere, his Hulk Buster armor alone could do some serious damage to the Guyver froms. With Captain America, I agree, though, depends on the shield. He's had like 6 different types I think. Problem is if he uses the shield that can reflect energy. Wolverine, he has weaknesses in his armor, for the most part he can be dismembered because the bones have joints. Happened to him several times already. Also, despite how strong his bones are, the Guyver is cut in an atomic level. I don't think Adamantium works against atomic level cutting. Even without the skeleton, I think Wolverine is likely the easiest to kill out of the big tier. he jumps into fights, and often gets his ass kicked. he's been killed by sentinels already and reduced to only his bone. So, destroying his flesh is not to difficult. Sadly for Wolverine, he can't regenerate the guyver either unless he cut the control metal somehow. If he can get the control metal, he can win. Ugh, the more I think about it, the more Guyver is screwed unless he has some fans in Marvel comics writing for him. Hmm, Magneto vs the Guyver... not gonna end well. Hulk, yeah, Hulk would be a pretty damn good battle.

Apparently, most Zoalord Bodies gain some sort of muscle from the changes. Even that tiny Old Zoalord had a 6pack under that clothing.

Pretty much. It's like the food chain, the bigger brand name the character, the more likely they are to win. By all means, we know that the fantastic four shouldn't stand a chance, but the writers would just make the Guyver just a wuss compared to their regular enemy Dr.Doom.

Tekkaman Blade from the looks of it. Goodwork overall!

Good to know the US is still under an evil corporations thumb. =D

No, the mega smasher wouldn't kill superman, the the Gigasmasher might do so. It would otherwise hurt him seriously, but the guy has survived the inside of the sun and death beams from Darksied. Problem with DC superman is that he is SOOoooo god damn overpowered. Like a dragon ball Z character, just insanely unfair since apparently energy beams are only an annoyance to the S man, and getting thrown through 20 skyscrapers are just something superman can brush off. It's weird! The only thing that could kill superman for certain is the vibroblades or Yui's transdimensional cutting power, provided superman... didn't just dodge with his superspeed. Guyots fake blackhole wouldn't work since superman can just punch out of the fabric of reality. God superman can even outrun a blackhole! There are so many other characters with near superman level powers in both DC and marvel. We've seen superheroes throw planets,smash moons, kill super powered people just by looking at them. This is partly why I hate crossover characters. They always mess up the realities of the in universe plots devices. To be fair though, Guyver in DC or marvel would be sup-top tier too, but the writers there would just make something impractical and stupid to let their heroes win. Look at cap, that shield of his would be written to somehow survive the megasmasher. Ironman would just have reflective armor, or a mecharmor to fight gigantic. Batman would just learn of the control metal and destroy it. braniac would merge with the control metal. Juggernaut would not die. Doctor Doom would just make his own control metal. Suddenly Zuggernaught comes back from the dead because Guyver was in the comics, and is now power powerful than the Guyver.... Ugh. I despise comic book writers 50% of the time.

You know, that brings up a question. Should the Guyver just be better off taking a hit to give a fatal hit to the Enzyme models? They keep dodging the attacks, which is usually smart, but in the case of a team of Enzymes, taking some damage to kill them quickly before they can accumulate too much damage may not be a bad idea. If Sho for example had gone straight for the head regardless of all the damage he himself would suffer, he may actually of survived the battle. It's questionable though if this would be smart at all, or effective against a team of Enzymes. So running into the open arms of an Enzyme III unleash a point blank Sonic Orb may not be such a bad idea I think. Granted the Guyver manage to dodge the explosion afterwards. Query, how exactly did the Enzyme III's die? I know One was killed by Bio Freezer, and one died from it's quick processing. How was the third beaten?

Enzyme one... fly, and just keep on shooting it from a distance. Enzyme was big slow, and a walking tank. Sadly, he all short range attacks with his tail being the only mid range one. Sho wouldn't even need to dodge from 30 feet in the air, he could literally of just floated and shot him to hell. Unfortunately, Sho didn't know how to fly at that point. If grounded he could of out run the creature and still attacked at a distance. I don't know why Sho didn't figure out to run. Granted, large creatures can be fast, a Bear can catch up to a human easily (except downhill) But the Guyver can easy outrun the damn thing.... why the heck would he hide in the bushes? Enzyme II, the strategy from the first works with the exception that this Enzyme is faster, and and sports more mid range attacks. He can still be easy, you can fight in the air and dodge up there because of the speed of the attacks of Enzyme are slower than the Guyver. In long distance combat, Sho can still pull it off with done right. The problem is fighting Multiple Enzymes II's, you have to be far more cautious. The one thing the Enyzme II is worse than Enzyme I is durability. He can't take as much damage (rage or not). making sure your hits count like Murikami tried to do is good combat sense, and try to finish them off one at a time instead of interchanging attacks. Enzyme III, Don't get in fights with these guy. Worse, don't fight a team of them. They are far more dangerous than the previous units. The Fastest of all of them with a berserker strength and regeneration in place of durability. They lack long range weapons but their flight and speed makes up for it. this removes some of the efficiency of a Guyvers long range attacks due to them closing the gap like a infighter from boxing. Really in this strategy, especially against a team, it's all evasion while whittling them own, hopefully with smart attacks that go for the head and neck. Writing this makes me realize just how stupid or limited Chronos can be. If they had made a team of Enzyme II and Enzyme III to complement their flaws, Imakirum would of had a much easier time. In fact, why didn't he bring a new team of (Aptom Proof) Hypers to boot? He could of wiped everyone out! XD

Don't get me worng, the Guyvers are brutal, against even more brutal Zoanoids. But look at the way Sho fights. It's realistic, but pretty hilarious when you realize how desperate he is! Actually, he's started out as being a desperate coward and later turning into a smart confident hero... Now, kamen riders, they fight with martial arts, some have pretty generic abilities, others have some incredible gimmicks, some come remarkably close to being like exactly like Sho and Agito (looking at you Kamen Rider Ryuki) Remember that warehouse fight with Sho vs the two Remotith? No skill, he powered through with superior abilities only. The second one got it's eyes poked out... Woah, Sho fought like Moe from the stooges at this point, and only managed to kill it via strangulation! Nyuk Nyuk Nyuk! Frankly, early Sho was a terrible warrior. His fight against G2 showed just how bad he was in combat, and you can pretty much image some of the same from the Kamen Riders in terms of skill, even against Agito and Liskar. The Guyvers for the most part are far stronger than most Kamen Riders physically, and they are smarter. Heck, Show can outsmart most of the Kamen Riders... and he's technically an (lovable) teenage idiot. To be fair though, the Guyver's weapons are much more overkill while Kamen tend to be faster, agile and more flashy. It really depends on which interpretations you're willing to use. This is all just opinion and conjecture.