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  1. It sounds like central could be equivalent to headquarters. Like I gotta send this request to corporate hq for approval.
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  2. Made a Guyver World flag:
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  3. Even if it's just "Central", the Uranus on Earth didn't make the choice. It was made for them and as you put it, Central pulled the tigger. Which means any Uranus that hung around by accident would have been killed with us too if not for Archanfel. But the story points to none of them staying behind, their just ships they were willing to let be destroyed.
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  4. I think that part could benefit from a translation check. If I may.... (the original is written in katakana to indicate alien language, but I'm writing in hiragana to aid translation) お前たち”人類”の最も忌むべき形態”殖装体” それは危険きわまる”ガイバー”だ 制御不能でありながら強大な戦闘力を備えたこの”殖装体”の出現は 我々にとって比類なき脅威となるだろう 我々は先の事件を”中央”に報告し指示を仰いだ 事態を重くみた”中央”審議会が下した結論は... プロジェクトの打ち切りとおまえたちの”根絶”だ すでに”中央”は天体破壊規模”オペレーション”を発動した 我々もぐずぐずしてはおれぬのだ さらばだアルカンフェル YOU "HUMANITY"-S MOST ABOMINABLE FORM "BIO-BOOSTED BODY" IS THE EXTREMELY DANGEROUS "GUYVER" A "BIO-BOOSTED BODY" BOTH OUT OF CONTROL AND WITH POWERFUL FIGHTING STRENGTH HAS ARISEN AND BECOME AN UNPARALLELED THREAT TO US WE REPORTED THE INITIAL INCIDENT TO "CENTRAL" AND ASKED FOR INSTRUCTIONS (Central is a place, like a capital) "CENTRAL" COUNCIL ASSESSED THE GRAVE CIRCUMSTANCES AND MADE THE DECISION... (council/ commission of inquiry) OF ENDING THE PROJECT AND "ERADICATING" YOU ALL ALREADY, "CENTRAL" HAVE INITIATED A PLANETARY DESTRUCTION SCALE "OPERATION" (celestial body, but planetary sounds better) WE CAN'T LINGER FAREWELL ALKANFEL I don't know why the scanlated manga says 'central federation', it gives the impression of an organisation separate from the Uranus, but the original manga doesn't really imply that.
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  5. New SSL Cert issued for the website. More updates incoming next weekend.
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  6. When I read from Vol.14 Ch.86 to Vol. 15 Ch.89, I see them very United among them selves. That's what I perceive. They always say "us". I know they treat humans like objects/tools: When they comand Archanfel to kill the human, which was bonded to the unity-G (Vol.15 Ch.88 page 50), they say "DESTROY IT"....That's all.
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  7. haven't looked at the original Japanese manga in a while, so i had a look. he does actually say he can digest the cells of all living things and copy exceptional traits from their genetic information. That much is clear. I think we need to be cautious in our assumptions though. it's likely he could absorb the cells of the relic or ark, but we can't say for sure whether it would have traditional genetics. Let's say that it does have genetics that aptom can read, it still wouldn't give him any exceptional abilities, because all of the weapon systems of the guyver and gigantic are coded from the control metal and nav sphere. we have no idea what a relic ship lifeform would be capable of without a nav sphere, maybe it only has basic metabolism functions, and a potential to accept programming and adapt it's form and function based on input data. but then, since that is something the creators seem to do habitually, I don't think that's special. human cells accept data and change their form when they are 'processed' so I don't see any reason to believe it would be at all special. edit: considering the Ark doesn't have a nav sphere, I guess we can assume some natural qualities of the lifeform. It is capable of surviving in a vacuum, it has levitation abilities, it is capable of collecting, storing and diverting massive quantities of energy, though this could be fully dependent on size. There's no guarantee whether aptom's cells could access any of this information though. The code could be incompatible/exotic, and also, we only have Aptom's own supposition to go on. Based on his monologue, I guess we can assume he has tried absorbing insects or birds or even trees. But I'm not sure we can assume that he is fully considering lifeforms that could have exotic biology. I just don't think we can take it as a given, even considering all this.
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  8. Saw it. It was good. One spoiler: No alternate universe Iron Man, so you don't have to wait for him.
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  9. BASTARD‼ -Heavy Metal, Dark Fantasy- is based on the long running manga of the same name by Kazushi Hagiwara. Started in 1987 Bastard!! Is famous for its jaw dropping art work and long hiatuses. Bastard!! Has been on hiatus since 2010 and now the franchise is seemingly back from the dead with a new anime covering the complete manga run up to this point and a new figurine set. This is truly an exciting prospect! If Bastard!! Could have an exciting resurgence out of nowhere...then why not Guyver? If you are unfamiliar with Bastard!! I highly recommend giving it a go! It was one of the pioneers of the Dark Fantasy genre along side Berserk.
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  10. Meanwhile in another another universe...
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  11. Bought a MA-1 bomber jacket! Wanted this since 90's.
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  12. No the Creators were ****ting themselves because they realised what something like Archanfel could become with a unit, that is basically an uncontrollable god-being.
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  13. The Creators DIDN'T think that far ahead. That's the whole reason they left and tried to kill him and destroy Earth. There were reckless scientists doing whatever they could to make something powerful. At the time of Guyver 0, they had no idea what the unit would do on a human and just thought one day " Hey, let's try it!". Then they likely did some calculations and realized what could be, and up and left without saying much. It's only Archanphel's pure determination that he survived to modern time with what they did to him.
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  14. No, the control medal is far more than a CPU. It is also an operating system that handles and regulates the bio-boost systems, as well as handles recording the data of the host for healing and the self defense systems. That much has been noted officially (included the VDF page regarding it). The regulation of the bio-boost system is also why there is a significant difference between Humans wearing the armor, and the creators wearing the armor, and why even they believed that it could get much worse. The problem is that we have only seen humans as Guyvers, but we do know that creators say that the humans get more than 10 times the boost from the unit. The Zoacrystals on the other hand, HAVE been proven to be essentially batteries. Zoa-forms have their abilities hard wired into their DNA, but cannot use them without energy. This is why things like the Libertus and Griselda require to be recharged in tubes if they overuse their powers, and why Carleon did not die and aged terribly after his crystal was removed. As well we have had Zoalords require rest or being placed in a bio-tube after over exerting themselves. The crystals don't seem to be able to regenerate power quickly. So if a unit bio-boosted on a Zoalord, it would not bio-boost exactly same way it does on a human and would likely adjust it levels and abilities for the new organism it just merged with. If the new organism can handle more energy, it is fair to say that the Unit could pull more energy quicker.
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  15. It's not that they would "Merge" so much as they would compliment each other. THAT is the true fear of the Guyver Zoalord. As mentioned before, it could likely be that the Zoacrystal acts like a large battery while the Unit provides armor, weapons and power from the boost dimension, keeping that battery topped up. If humans were made to be weapons, and Zoalords are a further evolution of that, the Guyver unit could theoretically bio-boost the Zoalord even more than a human. Just because the control medal regulates the Bio-Booster armors output, doesn't mean it cannot handle more. It's like putting high end parts in a low quality machine... They will never work to peak performance if the rest of it is bogging down the high end parts. And as far as we have been officially told so far, it would work. And it would work well.
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  16. I don't think that the Control Medal would actually merge with a Zoacrystal. As they are completely different types of biological technology. The Zoacrystal provides the user with enhanced strength, powers and psychic abilities. While the Control Medal in a Bio Booster Unit acts as the CPU for the Bio Booster Armor, and acts as a user input device for allowing the host to use the Bio Booster Armor. Essentially the Control Medal is nothing more than a computer, while the Control Medal can take control over the Bio Booster Armor if the host has been rendered unconscious or has had their brain damaged or destroyed. It's main function is to regulate the units power output, the armors essential functions (healing) and the activation of the armor's weaponry.
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  17. The control metal does have a dimensional interlink, which means it can siphon energy from the boost dimension, but as you said the gravity globe does that to a larger extent. actually, we don't know what form that energy takes, but it is probably fairly efficient and the manga or anime has never shown any indications of harmful radioactive effects. it all seems to be pretty safe to be around. since the guyver organism can seemingly change some substances into completely different substances, there is a good chance this organism is capable of spontaneous fission/fusion. loose ions, cosmic rays, etc. would cause damage to the structures and material that it creates, so I imagine it must have a method to manage any excess.
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  18. The Control Medal doesn't power the Guyver, its a processor/control system and data storage device. If I remember Correctly the unit siphons a small amount of energy from Boost Space via the Gravity Orb.
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  19. Yup, the links from warriorguyver.com point to were the new links will be (and are not there yet). At the moment, TheGuyver.Net and Japan-Legend.com are not certified sites. First I'm fixing up WarriorGuyver.com (which became a secure / certified site for the first time today) and then the other 2 sites, once done everything will work nicely, until then there will be some broken linkage like the above.
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  20. I doubt he'd do any better than a normal human would... Unless he is zoa-formed, or acquires a Guyver unit. His extra abilties might make his Zoa-form or Guyver form slightly better than others... But considering we are talking that even scout class Zoanoids are still many times him in strength, speed, senses and resilience over his already superior human traits, he would be done in fairly quickly. Good hits with fancy weapons might allow him to make some kills, sure... but that is still not much better than normal humans could do. The genetic modification of Agent 47's world is nothing compared to the Guyvers at all. Unfortunately, as scientific as the Guyver lore actually is, it is still closer to the edge of science fiction than "science-reality" like in Hitman.
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  21. Unless those heavy metals change shape when the Zoalord transforms, the answer is 'no'. Guyot is almost one-and-a-half times as tall when he changes. Also, would those heavy metals involve his skull? Then again, his head in Zoalord form is pretty small.
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  22. Well, no. Thing is, they're still organic. And organic compounds, be they carbon- or silicon-based, just outright can't be so dense that a two-meter-tall man weighs 450 kilograms. Drawing some heat energy from the environment wouldn't cut it, either. E=MC2 means that to gain one kilogram of mass, you'd have to convert the equivalent of a 20 megaton nuclear explosive to matter. I think you'd probably cause a new Ice Age if you turned into a Zoanoid that way.
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  23. This is why putting an exact science unto a fictional story isn't always a good thing. The art isn't a mistake it is the data file science doesn't support what Takaya had drawn and intended. In the end you've to leave the world of the Guyver to be it's own little sudo science existence where science fact and fiction mix a little. It's not just Guyver that does this, every comic / movie / story every written does the exact same thing unless it is based on historical fact.
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  24. I wouldn't over think it. The guyver isn't an all power omnipotent being if that's what you're thinking. The guyver takes on powers that deal with or are based on powers that focus on the plot and the various tropes, techniques and devices in the fictional narrative of the story. Basically, he's whatever Yoshiki Takaya needs him to be for that chapter. As you read through the manga, you'll notice that the Guyver/Sho will sometimes will be extremely super powered for a while and than he goes through a dry spell for a few chapters. Than you're going to realize that the author hasn't really given much and if you're like me..... you will probably come under the belief that the author, Yoshiki Takaya doesn't know where to take the story or how to end it. But than again does Marvel and DC really have endings? Most comic book heroes don't get one. I'd like to believe that the Guyver in his original armor is probably as physically strong as the Hulk.....and who knows in red Titan mode. Anyways, I hope you enjoy!
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  25. Again, using Dragonball is a poor source for comparison because they don't care about reality. At the time Goku completed his training with Roshi, he was already faster than most people can see. Physically they push that giant boulder, which was likely a few tons... but then can jump super high? Completely unbalanced as characters. So they might've been similar in pure physical strength at that point, but series like Dragonball rely on plot to determine how powerful someone actually is, or how much damage one can cause. So the scales are completely abnormal. Using Dragonball to compare most things is simply ludicrous in most cases. Even at its earliest forms. And sadly, so is the marvel universe. With all the retcons and depowers, new writers, plots etc... Spider-man can go from lifting a car over his head, to having trouble lifting one in the matter of 12-15 issues depending on what the story calls for. This is a big problem with the "western comics culture" and the way stories are done. A 6 foot tall being lifting 7 tons isn't super weak at all in its own world... But when you compare it to worlds with inconsistent power levels sure, it can look pretty terrible.
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  26. Strength in Guyver is really iffy. Take the infamous image of a Gregole on X-day, lifting an Abrams tank - which weighs more than 50 tons - overhead.
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  27. I kind of hope archanfel dons the guyver, and uses the last of his life to wipe out the creators, who've come to shut down project earth, in a fantastically large and flashy attack. He's spent eons devoted to destroying them; surely he'll get his chance. Plus I'd really like to see what he looks like with a guyver unit equipped..
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  28. Seeing that the high frequency blades disrupts the surface of any material that it comes in contacts with and breaks it. I can honestly see that the high frequency blades would be able to cut adamantium. It probably won't be able to cut vibranium as that absorbs energy. So the energy produced by the high frequency blades would probably absorbed by the vibranium.
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  29. Does Barcas even need to eat food? I was always under the impression that Zoalords get all the energy they need to function from their crystals. Though if I had to say, they probably are unaffected.
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  30. Nice idea. That would be a satisfying end to the story for me but unfortunately all of that will take Takaya 20 years to draw. I wonder if he even has an end in mind..?
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  32. Two things I've been wondering about lately. 1.) How is the appearnace of a Guyver determined, exactly? Is it personality, age, strength, or will of the host that determines the design of the armor and it's weapons? Like how many blades they have and which direction they aim? 2.) My second question is it possible for a standard unit to teleport? Not over long distances mind you, but in a small area. Say they were outnumbered, but could easily teleport around their enemies, laying in sneak attacks. Could this be possible without the use of an upgrade of some kind?
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  33. His plasma ability may have been limited, it depends how he created the plasma... Like it could have been a effect of exchanging particles from the shadow dimension to normal space. The ball shape could also have been misleading as to how powerful they were, like balled lightning for example. But he had also locked the room that the other Zoacrystals were being kept in by using his dimensional power on it. So Apollon had to defeat Caerleon to gain access and gave him yet something else to focus on at the same time.
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  34. He probably had a various number of abilities, Zoaknight, but seeing as his opponent had infiltrated the Ark and almost caused him to submit to his will, he was distracted. Also seeing that Apollyon could do the same things he could, and even manipulate his attacks against him, made Edward even more on edge instead of being focused on his opponent. Looks like he knew who his opponent was in the end, but until Takaya gives us the okay, we can only speculate.
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  35. Yes, interesting research they're getting into. Here are some other related links. . . The Artificial Brain An Artificial Brain with 20 Billion Neurons Artificial brain falls for optical illusions Sci/Tech: Best brain boosts artificial life POPSCI: An Artificial Brain Artificial Brain Parts Growing a Brain in Switzerland
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  36. Originally we didn't base it on anything. The numbers were already floating around the Internet back when we first started the site. Don't know where they originated from, probably from one the early vinyl models that provided basic stats on the side of the box, but so far they seem to fit and so we still use them. Official data files really only state the speeds of zoanoids, but we know from them that hyper class can go 45 MPH and faster. Some are rated at 90 MPH, though Thancrus isn't specified he was designed for speed and during X-Day was seen assassinating someone and moving so fast that the crowd only saw a blur. The Guyver is faster than Thancrus and we have a scene in the Manga where G1 runs right past a moving car that spun several times before stopping, indicating the car had been going fairly fast as well. Also the scene just before it shows G1 shooting forward even as the wake of the blast field could still be seen knocking down a sidewalk tree but G1 was already half way down the block before the tree was even halfway falling down to the ground... Indicating an acceleration greater than 1 G. A cheetah has 1 G of acceleration for comparison and can go 0-60 MPH in just 2.5 seconds. So overall I'd say the 250 MPH top speed is a good ballpark figure. Now for the flying, we don't have as much to compare to but we do have scenes where the Guyver seemed to just vanish and we know they flew away, but only the Gigantic has actually broken the sound barrier, so this too seems to match up to 300 MPH figure. The momentum enhancers stated rating of 10x also suggests this if you take 1G acceleration for 1 second and multiply it by 10 gives you about 218 MPH, the Guyver can probably push that a bit past 1 second of acceleration, which brings it to about 300 MPH. Assuming of course wind resistance as a stop gap from further acceleration.
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  37. No, actually it would since if they evolved beyond the need for a physical body then they wouldn't have one. Beyond the fact you couldn't say they evolved beyond the need for a physical body unless they had already given up the body. (It's the only way "Beyond" would become a valid term) Conservation of energy also applies to evolution and physical bodies, it takes energy to maintain a body and if there is no need for that body then evolution would simply drop it or reduce it to a vestigial of its former self. The nature of the Guyver Unit itself and its need to bond to a host to give it form and function also shows that it would be illogical to assume the Creators did not have physical bodies. They would need physical bodies just to bond to the Units. There is also no example of any Creator technology that doesn't deal with living technology and the manipulation of DNA. So the only logical conclusion left is that they indeed had physical form, we were just never shown them.
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  38. We do not know that the Unit gave the creators humanoid form. We were never shown their physical form, only a mental impression of their existence and the fact is the unit would take on any form the host had. This is why the theories about them have been so wild. And Guyver Zero was the first and only test on any life on Earth with bonding to the Creator's Unit. Not to mention the Creators didn't start off developing humans, the dinosaurs were also part of their weapons development and they stayed along for that path for far longer than they did developing humans. So we have no idea what they looked like or what requirements if any they had for the form they were looking for. They just happened upon humans in the last part of the their project. The Creator ships themselves show there was no need for physical limbs at all since everything responded to their will and within the Relic one could simply float anywhere they wanted to go. So any assumption of their physical form is just assumption. The idea they are energy beings is also assumption and a wrong one since we know that during Guyver Zero's attack some of them died and that would not have happened unless they had a physical form that could be effected. Also energy beings need an environment in order to contain their energy which the Relics do not provide.
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  39. This popped in my head one day and it's been nagging me ever sense. I was wondering if the Unit ever bonded with someone who had a disease such as cancer, AIDS, leukemia, etc. Would the unit possibly remove it because the disease is attacking it's host and/or doing more bad than good. I know it may sound weird but like I said at the start its been bothering me. Anyways I'll leave you all to it.
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  40. It would have to recognize it as a problem first but you have to remember the human host is an alien to the Unit. Even our own bodies can't realize that HIV is bad, how do you expect the Unit to realize it? Fact is people can live decades with HIV and show no symptoms, so simply having it in your system doesn't automatically raises any red flags. Also there is the fact the host is returned to their original state when the unit deactivates. The host isn't permanently enhanced. So I see it as just a stop gap measure and not a cure unless the person stays bonded for the rest of their life. Even if the host is made immune to the disease it doesn't mean it will remove the virus from their system so the host could still be a carrier.
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  41. The Metal Orbs are the representation of the Control Medals, not the Creators. Often times the Creators only interacted with their creations mentally and since they wore units all that was seen was a mental impression of the CM. We were never shown the creators natural forms and we do not know what they looked like. The idea that they are some sort of ascended beings is pure speculation, which I disagree with since the Manga clearly stated they had 1/10th the power of a Guyver with the Unit and that could only be if they had a physical form for the unit to Bio-Boost.
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  42. I would say about equal to a Guyver Zoanoid. They had zoanoid level strength and speed but not zoanoid level durability. Many zoanoids are virtually bullet proof for example, but then again most of them don't rely on regeneration. So it evens out. The Guyver adapts itself to the host as well as adapt the host to it. So any special abilities the host has would be added and/or enhanced by the Unit. The host is the model for the Guyver form after all. Otherwise it wouldn't stop at altering the host internal structure and would have added other enhancements like 4 arms, etc. So if the host is a shapeshifter then the armor would also aquire that ability, except for the CM of course since it is the one part of the Guyver that can never change.
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  43. Exactly....That's what I'm trying to say. If a Guyver does contact the ship to teleport him onboard, then obviously he has already been accepted as the pilot. From what I can tell, the ships are grown to serve their pilots at all costs. So why couldn't he just contact it, and ask it to teleport him aboard if he didn't have the ability teleport? Another example of this, would be right before Guyver one became Gigantic while he was being vaporized, he contacted the ship and ask or commanded it to teleport his friends to a safe place. Upon his death, the ship did as he asked it or commanded it to. His control medal didn't extend, he was outside the ship, plus he was dying. So it could be possible....
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  44. In both instances where both Movie Guyver and Guyver 1 extended their control medals out, they were literally piloting the ship or doing some highly intensive stuff (like have information downloaded into you and so forth). But for let's say easier things such as linking up with the relic to communicate with it (simple talk) or maybe even limited teleportation might be possible.
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  45. You could create a hybrid device like a Kavzar's Control Crystal or add a specialized device like GWOTG's hyper space orbs. Or just add more gravity control orbs like Merc Guyver has. Or just mutate the organism to absorb ambient energy. Or make a Guyver Zektole and it will have that ability naturally since Zektole can absorb ambient energy
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  46. Here's a thought. Since the Gigantic is a lot larger than the normally armored host both the human and the guyver armor need to be augmented to fit into the gigantic form. There is a lot of space between the host and the gigantic as it is sealing shut (Even though it is appearing from another dimension). My thinking is as the guyver/host grows to fit inside the gigantic air or whatever the surrounding medium is is compressed and expelled through the vents........kinda like a fart.
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  47. I know what your talking about, I remember that from Gigantic Descending. I think it has to do with the extending of the antennas because it wasn't done before or after they extended. Maybe it was something akin to a piston like process? Still, I think the rebreather ports still function as a waste venting system for both forms.
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  48. How about repairing old injuries? Say fixing a torn ACL? Adjusting the hosts eyes to no longer need glasses? I would think if the control medal of a normal guyver unit can reconstruct the host from a simple recording of the hosts DNA it would do so as the DNAsays it SHOULD be rather than how it was. To the best of my knowledge DNA does not determine the outcome of an injury. So let us say Sho had glasses before bonding, should he be able to se fine after donning the armor and thereafter?
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  49. Well that's the thing with free will and all. If you believe in free will, I'm assuming that you do, then God can't be controlling every aspect of our life or even our environment. Otherwise there would be no choice in life, we'd just be puppets. So if there is any one mocking us it is mother nature, which is an unfortunate price for free will. But consider that without suffering there would be no change. Also without suffering we would never appreciate the good, as then we would not have anything to compare the good to, to know it was good. Never mind that without suffering the human race would never have evolved to begin with. Every single aspect of our nature and physiology is based on conditions in which our ancestors lived through that have shaped the course of our evolution. Of course evolution never stops so we are still evolving and unfortunately some us will suffer more than others. It doesn't mean god is laughing at us or taunting us any more than a parent would taunt or laugh at their child if they are hurt. But just like a parent god can't always step in and make things better. Aspect's like free will and evolution means god has to let things take their course. Ultimately the universe is what it is, the seed for our creation and the world we live in was planted at the very beginning of creation. So to change it god would have to destroy everything and start again. Though on the plus side, unless you wind up in hell, suffering does not last forever. Which is one of the plusses of believing in a god as then you also believe in a heaven. But that's just my opinion. Then again I also believe I remember being born and what heaven was like. So you don't have to listen to me.
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  50. Many diseases are within the pervue of the choice of people. If we all led healthy lives and if we all cared about whether or not we can pass something to others like HIV then such diseases would quickly disappear. But the problem is a lot people don't give a damn and don't lead healthy lives. Course there are disease that we don't have a choice about but that's part of life. And there is some truth to the old addage of that which does not kill us makes us stronger. God created life and life competes with life, it's only man's arragance that assumes we have to be on top of the ladder of importance. If it wasn't for diseases and genetic mutations we would never have even evolved. So complaining about it is like complaing why we even exist. But the main things that makes us suffer is not the things out of our control but the things that should be in our control and for that we have no one else to blame but ourselves.
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