Guyver vs Iron Man

[H222G981]

This would be an interesting fight to see. Anyone think Iron Man has what it takes to stand up to Sho's Guyver? I mean, Iron Man has been up against impossible odds before. Or....maybe all Sho has to do is activate the Gigantic Exceed and Tony would be beaten? Somehow I don't think it would be that easy for either of them.

 

Thoughts?

 

Edited September 22, 2015 by Jupiter

[Salkafar]

Well... I am going by the comic book version, but even there an innate quality of the Iron Man paradigm is that different armors have vastly different capabilities.

 

But let's say that it's the 'Superior' armor, which, true to its name, is probably the most badass of all Iron Man armors with the possible exception of the two iterations of the 'Iron Destroyer' (which incorporated Asgardian magic into their design).

 

 

 

Even in basic mode, 'Superior' has Class 100-level power, which puts him on par - in terms of raw strength - with the Gigantic armor. In this scene, Superior took on all previous iterations of the armor controlled by an artificial intelligence based on Tony Stark's mind (Tony himself had been 'inverted' by a combination of magic and psionics, so he was a villain at this time) and beat them into scrap.

 

Superior is hyper-adaptable, being essentially made of liquid metal; but while Iron Man has had liquid metal armors before, this one is semi-autonomous and connected to Tony Stark's mind in a way that cannot be interfered with electronically.

 

I think we can safely assume it incorporates all abilities ever used by an Iron Man armor - because Tony, at this stage, was much too greedy and arrogant to settle for anything less. This includes invulnerability to a high degree to a broad range of attacks; resistance against telepathic attacks; super-fast reflexes and movement; a very advanced, varied and broad-spectrum sensor cache; an entire arsenal of advanced weapons, including projectiles, radiant energy projection, weaponized force fields and sonic attacks; the capacity for flight at speeds of at least Mach 10; various cloaking abilities; and the ability to interfere with the operations of computers and other electronic devices to the extent of taking control of them.

 

Tony Stark himself has undergone the Extremis process, which in his case means his own biological functions have been boosted; his cardiovascular system is enhanced ("An aorta like a firehose"), his senses have been enhanced and his cellular regeneration is speeded up to a very high degree (ie, he has a healing factor).

 

Much of this, however, is useless against the Guyver, which is invulnerable to conventional electronic warfare. So the question is, can either party muster enough raw power fast enough to take the other out? The Guyver's headbeam and sonic buster can be dismissed, I think. The pressure cannon and the megasmasher both take time - ie, too long - to charge up to be used effectively. Leaves the vibration blades. I think those could be dangerous, unless the semi-liquid armor of Superior automatically counteracts the vibratory effect or Superior erects a force field swiftly enough. In terms of strength the Guyver is very much the underdog, being about as strong as Spider-Man.

 

In Gigantic mode, the Guyver trades manouverability for increased power and abilities. Can Iron Man pierce the Gigantic's force field? Doubtful, but he can't just remain inside a force bubble all the time. The sonic buster and the headbeam may become a problem with their magnified output, of course. For the Gigasmasher and the graviton beam the same problems apply: it takes too long to charge them.

 

There is of course one way in which Iron Man can mount an effective attack: an electric shock to the control medallion.

[Matt Bellamy]

All depends how prepared Stark is, or if he is able to pinpoint the Guyvers weak point.

 

Most Iron Man armors have a variety of weapons that could damage the control medal, like sonics, or electricity.

 

But if they were just put into a arena, no prior knowledge of each other, and both were fighting to kill? Gotta go with the Guyver. It's quite literally a evolved weapon of war. The Iron Man suits, while build to fight, are not necessarily killing weapons.

 

Sure, there are always scenarios where both could win... But I'd have to give it to a Guyver for the majority of the time.

[durendal]

Well, I think the bottom line here is that it depends on which kind of Iron man we're talking about.  If it's good guy Iron Man, then he would have a lot of difficulty standing against the Guyver.  However, if it's Iron Man without the morals, then I'm pretty sure the Guyver will have it's hands full.  Even then, given what we know about the Guyver, and if this same information was readily available to Tony Stark, he could probably figure a way out to disable the Armor, regardless if he is a good or bad guy.

[Gray5]

Superior Armor Iron Man would win against normal guyver. Much faster maneuverability and a multitude of weapons that can be immediately utilized in rapid succesion. It would overwhelm Guyver quickly. Probably even before there's time to go into Gigantic mode.

[Shin Mefilas]

So as it stands the only way for Sho to win is somehow land one of his more powerful attacks but they take to long to charge. Well unless Sho could put Tony in a position that would give him time to charge up his attacks he doesn't stand much of a chance.

 

Also Superior Tony sounds rather similar to my Prometheus Guyver, that would be an interesting match up.

Edited September 26, 2015 by Prometheus Guyver

[Salkafar]

Superior Tony isn't that powerful.

 

But... even earlier versions of the armor had Guyver-level attacks.

 

 

 

Full metal holocaust, that's what. A full armored division wiped out in seconds. And an even earlier iteration of the armor was still no slouch:

 

[Shin Mefilas]

I said it would be interesting, I never said it would be a contest of equals  .

 

 However while Guyver will always be my favorite I have a lot of respect for the Golden Avenger.

 

Edited September 27, 2015 by Prometheus Guyver

[detmann]

I've wondered about this battle a few times in the past and have always thought it may be a draw. But now I realize Sho would win. For starters Tony is rarely prepared for a battle with beings like the Guyver. He is pretty much always in his "base" armor when he goes into battle. I am up in the air as to whether or not Tony would be successful in scanning the armor since it is alien in orgin, although parts are organic. The sonic buster and the gravity orb would give Tony the biggest issues and likely end the battle quickly. Of course the real deciding factor for me is what happens if Sho goes unconscious. At that point it is pretty much sealed. The unit takes care of the threat until there is nothing left, even with serious injuries, you know like a large chunk of brain missing.

[Guyver0]

This is why these kind of conversations are so controversial.  The comic book heroes and villians don't have a true set bases for people to base things off of.  So many of them have been taken from author to author and the character(s) are changed from the extreme(like obliterating planets) to underwhelming(struggling to lift a car).  Granted the majority of the time people keep it true to the core, but it changes so much where everything about that character is subjective.  So if we want to challenge Guyver against Iron Man, fine, but which version?

[Salkafar]

The one that is most like the Guyver, so the Bleeding Edge armor.

 

 

'Bleeding Edge' is stored in Tony Stark's body in its entirety. It also simulates clothing, normally. It can deploy in under a second. It can also form complex structures, such as specific weapons systems.

 

The thing is, it's about ten times as physically strong as a Guyver.

Edited March 13, 2016 by Salkafar