I don't understand YouTube

[ZoneFighter]

I don't understand Youtube's selective copyright enforcement.  Thousands (or is it millions?) of clips of copyrighted music and movies and TV shows get posted and are never blocked. I post two clips of 30 year old Japanese super hero opening and ending credits they're immediatly blocked (by Toho).  The other clips from Rainbowman were not touched. Was it the music they object to having on Youtube?

 

I also put some clips of Zone Fighter that no problems with but as soon as I included two with Godzilla those were immediatly blocked by Toho.

 

I can't post ANYTHING from Toei without it being blocked. So no Kamen Rider or super sentai clips wiill be on youtube from me. How other people's videos don't get blocked I don't understand.

 

Most of the tokusatsu I like is 30 years old, shouldn't it be out of copyright by now?   I wouldn't post anything from Kikaida, Kikaida -01, Kamen Rider V3 or Inazuman because those were actually relesed on DVD in the US a few years ago so their copyrighted in US, again.

 

[Mirabilis]

 
 You need to be EXCEPTIONALLY careful when posting copy written material anywhere on the internet. Especially now with all the SOPA stuff going on. Whenever posting somebody elses work make sure to always give credit to where it is due and let people know it's for entertainment purposes only and you are not selling or profiting from their works. Also you need to consider putting in other disclaimers as well.

 Copy written material gets shut down from youtube all the time almost every day, it doesn't really surprise me you're find troubling uploading music to youtube especially from Toho Godzilla is of course a world icon and they're going to guard that like a hawk. I'd warn you to carefully consider what you upload now days as it's getting more and more dangerous for doing these things, if SOPA passes and you uploaded that music it would be a Federal Offense.

[Matt Bellamy]

Youtube's biggest problem is that they do not review the content people post. They leave it up to users to report illegal content. Some companies deny it, but others outright say they do... But they have people that search Youtube for all their properties, and report them immediately. As well as fans who will report any and/or everything.

 

Remember Youtube is not for posting any video you want. Originally it was formed to post videos YOU created. Posting intros/scenes from series and the like is not Youtube's intention. And really no one has a right to complain when their videos of someone else's property get removed if that is all they are doing.

 

Does it still get used for those purposes? Oh you bet. And if the video is found by anyone who cares that it was put up, it can be reported. I remember MANY years ago a huge outcry due to the increase in Anime Music Videos, that their videos were being removed due to copyright infringements.

 

But before asking on a forum, you should read Youtube's information this kind of stuff. Would answer most of your questions.

 

For example:

 

Why my video was removed, but similar ones weren't?

When a copyright holder or their authorized representative notifies us of a YouTube video that infringes their copyright, we remove the content promptly.

Keep in mind, sometimes a copyright owner will authorize some, but not all, of their works to appear on our site. Other times, very similar videos are owned by different copyright owners, and one may grant permission while another does not. If there are additional videos on the site that appear similar to the one(s) we've removed, we are either not aware of them or do not have reason to believe they are infringing.

 

See the bolded text for the most common reason.

 

So what can you do?

 

Well, nothing really, unless you get permission from the company to post the videos. Of course, Copyright holders or reps are people. And sometimes they may look at a video and decide that they won't have it removed for whatever reason. Then a week, month or years later, see the same thing, and have it removed, UNLESS you have written documentation stating they allowed it. They are people, and they do different things depending on their environment.

 

Want to complain or actually do something about illegally posted stuff on Youtube? Be proactive and start reporting stuff.

 

Unfortunately, for a lot of specific content, the few people watching the videos will not report it, because it is what they want. And thus is why Youtube is jam packed full of content that should be removed.

 

Is anyone going to try and get it all removed? Probably not.

 

Basically, you got unlucky that someone found your videos and reported them. As to why your other videos were not removed? Could be any number of reasons... but technically, if they are videos of a show that you do not own, you should remove them yourself, or don't be surprised if someone does find them and reports them.

 

And remember: READ YOUTUBE'S RULES.

 

Just because other people do it, and seemingly get away with it, does not mean you can. Ignorance is not an excuse. Much like every place where you sign up for an account, there is some little box that you click saying " Yes, I understand ALL the rules that this account allows me." And upon clicking said box, you are agreeing to following EVERY rule tied to the account.

 

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Sorry if that all sounds so harsh, but it is the truth. And something you should be aware of since you have a valid Youtube account ( though 99.9999999% of the people never read the rules to any website they sign up to.)

[ZoneFighter]

I no longer have any videos on youtube.  I removed them all.

 

Most  of what's on YouTube is not original content,.   Even if you make a video yourself unless you made every part of it yourself you're probably violating somebody's copyright.  I'd guess very few people who recored their own cover version of somebody elses song have written permission to use the song. I know of one very popuar Youtube cover artist who got shut down because he got too well known.

[*Jess♥]

this whole idea of copyright law is a mess right now.

intellectual property was made to allow corporations to profit from restrictions of freedom.

if intellectual property was intended to be of benefit to the individual, we wouldn't have these issues.

taking something that somebody else made and creating a tribute to it, should not be such a hassle.

presenting something to other people who would otherwise not be able to experience it, should not be such a hassle.

the whole concept that a person can make money out of something that is by it's very nature intangible, is absurd.

It's the broken nature of our economic systems that drives such concepts.  How does an artist live otherwise?

in ancient systems, the bard was valued as a keeper and teller of information. they were supported by the society and did not have to sell the rights to their performances to stay alive. as society moved on, they performed to gain alms and buy food. they were paid for the performance, but they did not own the music. a painter could not charge people money to simply look at his paintings. the commissioner paid the artist to do the work.

these days, people are expected to pay just to experience art. it's a disgrace.

The initial cost of producing such work, that is something to take into consideration... but what of the artists who cannot get paid for their work? they produce it and give it away for free. This supports the argument that the current system supports the corporations, not the individual.

 

The behaviour of youtube, is merely a result of the current system. this system largely driven by US attitudes. the whole country is pretty much supported by this IP system. a very large portion of their revenue stream is brought in by the payments for the media they produce. if not for that, their coffers would start to dry up. it's sad that it has come to this, but it is the way it is. what to do about it? I doubt anyone would be very successful in changing a country from relying on that source of income that is so huge. they will become more aggressive pushing more ill conceived laws like SOPA in order to stop 'piracy'. (side note... is there a 'pirate party' in the USA?)  youtube will of course have no option but to respond to the law makers in order to protect their interests. the things that will be taken down will of course reflect the people who more aggressively protect their IP. it seems unfortunate that some Japanese publishers are also very aggressive in that manner. is it any wonder that Japan also has a very large media industry and relies on that a fair bit?

[durendal]

No, it's just one guy from youtube picking on you.  Apparently he doesn't like you so he keeps on taking down your videos.  That's the only thing that makes sense.  There are numerous blatant copyright infringement posted in youtube yet they're still there, and your innocent video gets taken down.  What has the world come to.

[LordSpleach]

Youtube is definitely lazy when it comes to checking copyright claims. They just automatically accept them as fact.

[*YoungGuyver]

The last hundred years were completely new to performance art.  We finally had the tech to record, and sell copies of it.  We could treat it as a physical object for the first time.  Copy right laws reflect that.  Now, with digital media we can copy it infinitely, making it as intangible as it was before the recorded medium.  It was difficult to profit from performance art before the recording, and it is now becoming difficult again.  The major companies made millions from recordings, they wish to protect their cash cows, and have no idea how to profit under the new system.  Old dogs are trying to make laws as to brow beat the general public back into the good old days.

 

There are ways to profit under the news system, but it is so radical from the old culture.  For instance, the old system would advertise the release in advance, to build up anticipation.  That doesn't work anymore.  In the digital era, you drop everything out at once, in its final form  (modern thinking doesn't like to wait, and the memory isn't that long anymore).  Old school would charge $30 per physical copy, modern is just a dollar per download.  Dealing with the old dogs can be frustrating sometimes.  Oh well

[*Jess♥]

Youngguyver that is a very interesting comment there.

I do get frustrated when I see an advert for a film on tv and then discover that I can't even watch it for another 3 weeks. in that amount if time I have completely lost interest in it.

and you're absolutely right, if they release it in the cinema, release it for digital download at less than half the price and advertise it all on the same day, they would make a killing.

seriously, if I wanted to see a film, I would pay £4 to download it on release day, rather than wait.

I mean, the waiting options are, a terrible quality CAM release, a bad quality screener, waiting for TV, or paying over the odds for a DVD.

[*V Guyver]

The music industry is dying. It's a slow death, and they don't want to adapt to less profitable methods, nor shrink down. An artist can go solo, advertise their work and make profits directly. They don't need major music publishers, and since they make more money off concerts anyway than they do CD's or downloads. There is little reason to sign on. What matters most is getting your music listened to by as many people as possible to make you popular and get you ticket sales. The music downloads and CD's are just extra money in your pocket, and with a media company, you only get a small fraction of profits. 

Also there is globalization, previously it was helping the music industry, now it's killing it. A lot of cultural music was destroyed when the eastern block failed and american media moved in. Now those same cultural niche artist can survive and fight that globalization, maybe even expand. 

[*YoungGuyver]

when the music industry was selling cd's/records/tapes (physical product) by the boat load, there was so much money being made that they would just throw money at aspiring young directors to make a music video.  That is how we got many of our famous directors today.  Just check out the most popular videos and see who's doing the big budget films (though the new trend appears to be commercials, such as the budweiser ads and Gore Verbinski).  There was so much disposable income from cd sales that they could afford videos that would act as commercials for the cd's.

 

This loss of copy right DID affect aspiring young directors.  It was inevitable.  Now, new directors must prove themselves in other outlets, just as music 'distributors' must profit by other means.