*Jess♥ Posted March 10, 2014 Posted March 10, 2014 it's not even in the authors remit. I really don't like seeing Yoshiki Takaya getting blamed for something that is not in his remit. He is an author, not a publisher. The publisher of Guyver is Kadokawa. If anyone got to have a beef with anyone, it's Kadokawa. 2 Quote
Guest snow Posted March 10, 2014 Posted March 10, 2014 Each country has a licensing law and localization group. There is no umbrella group for translations. So when a book reaches certain nations, they first have to get a legal right to sell that comic, then they have to translate it, then they have to get past the standards of control/censoring process depending on that region. It all costs money and time, thus it's a hinderance. No one wants to translate if they can't make money off it. So if there is a decent fanbase, they won't bother unless the product has proven to be viable in other nations. So this is the issue with corporations. Problem with unlicensed translations is that they can get sued, which is why you don't just see any group do so without licensing, what little profit they could of netted, get's lost in court. Even none-profit translations can be sued. Fans have the advantage of skipping over red tape, translating it for fellow fans, and fostering a following for that comic. Naruto wouldn't of come over here if not for those fan translators, who unfortunately are targeted by the licensed companies that do want to make a profit as it potentially cuts into profits. Fan translations are sometimes on par with professional translations, hence they can't even sell them as a better quality version at times. Another point, is the language. japanese is not as widespread a English. Thus translating English to everything else is relatively easy thanks to it's abundance, and thankfully for the author of Harry potter, English just happens to the second most spoken language on the planet, so she never had to worry about language and translations issues. By the time they were needed, the books were already famous worldwide, thus demand was easy profitable, and all sequels got prompt international translations and releases barring a few delays due to some censoring by local governments. Overall, getting Japanese material translated for a Manga with a cult following is not so easy, nor profitable considering the hassle. Much of what I point out is also why some movies and videogames never get released, or outright banned at times. Culture and languages are not too much of a hassle, but when money is involved, it becomes a nightmare. Thank you , V Guyver, for explaining. That's the answer I was looking for. Its makes more sense now. Quote
alkanfel009 Posted March 20, 2014 Posted March 20, 2014 I think we deviate a little from the subject of the film, I want to clarify that I'm excited as a child with the idea of ​​a new movie. but you see I'm afraid if I do not have a history that covers the origin is, as I mentioned before the plot Begins with chapters 86 to 89, and from there jump to chapters 79 and 80, focus more on timesheets, and introduces sho and other Guyvers up half the pelciula, good is only what I would like ami . ie if you are not careful, end up with something like long history of poorly executed sho, we have something like if I come more to the argument so makashima termianaalgo so I think I cer deven more focused on plot and precentar the guyver and others as being undefined ie guyver this is not a story of dc or marvel comic Quote
Shin Mefilas Posted March 20, 2014 Posted March 20, 2014 (edited) Honestly while I would love another Guyver movie theres too much in the way. While we all love Guyver it really isent as big as it was, When Guyver was released by Manga Entertainment (in the old days befor pokemon, DBZ and Sailor Moon) it was a big hit for an anime of the time. It was dark, well drawn, had a good story and had good voice acting for an early 90s series, this combined with what we now call the Dark Age of Comics mentality at the time helped push Guyver to a level of notoriety few anime got which lead to it getting its movies. Guyver was the anime to have back then but times change and with the anime boom of the late 90s it was just left behind. The biggest problem I think is that many people pass on Guyver thinking that its like every other super sentai or teen with powers series and the first few episodes of both series dont help because even though they are very well done (better then most series I can think of) people just cant seem to see past the formula and they never get to see what Guyver later becomes.I think we where lucky to get the movies at all and even luckier that Dark Hero is so great but Guyver is not the shining star that it used to be over here and I dont think it ever realy will be again unless somthing happens after the seires end. Im just happy that guyver exists, its what got me into anime in the first plane and even today I still rank it as my 2nd favorite anime/manga of all time. Edited March 20, 2014 by Azagro Scar-Forge 2 Quote
alkanfel009 Posted March 20, 2014 Posted March 20, 2014 Honestly while I would love another Guyver movie theres too much in the way. While we all love Guyver it really isent as big as it was, When Guyver was released by Manga Entertainment (in the old days befor pokemon, DBZ and Sailor Moon) it was a big hit for an anime of the time. It was dark, well drawn, had a good story and had good voice acting for an early 90s series, this combined with what we now call the Dark Age of Comics mentality at the time helped push Guyver to a level of notoriety few anime got which lead to it getting its movies. Guyver was the anime to have back then but times change and with the anime boom of the late 90s it was just left behind. The biggest problem I think is that many people pass on Guyver thinking that its like every other super sentai or teen with powers series and the first few episodes of both series dont help because even though they are very well done (better then most series I can think of) people just cant seem to see past the formula and they never get to see what Guyver later becomes. I think we where lucky to get the movies at all and even luckier that Dark Hero is so great but Guyver is not the shining star that it used to be over here and I dont think it ever realy will be again unless somthing happens after the seires end. Im just happy that guyver exists, its what got me into anime in the first plane and even today I still rank it as my 2nd favorite anime/manga of all time. completely agree, Nostalgia factor is that many drives us to keep watching, to spend the varrera see the typical shonen sentai, super powers, so I've always thought of Deven precentar chronological series from hHOME giving more importance to acts of alkanphel creators and attack the guyver zero, precentar example a story of a world with primitive jente gods playing with human life boluntad, and herrores with this hook as many as you always would see this well-balanced with a biseral and brutal atmosphere in fights, this is not the guyver dbz or naruto, fights should be gore 1 Quote
*V Guyver Posted March 22, 2014 Posted March 22, 2014 suddenly recall when the late 80's to early 90's. Manga was popular enough to create not only the Guyver movie, but also the Hokuto No Ken movie, and a few others. It doesn't have the popularity, you'd need a director with some leverage to really go for the movie, or an investor. Quote
Guest snow Posted March 22, 2014 Posted March 22, 2014 Anime doesn't seem at all popular like it was in the early to mid 2000's. Seems like anime is going out like an old clothing style or an old song that everyone's heard too much. What I don't like about most Anime is that they only do one season or even half the season, or an OVA or try to show case the whole series in one movie........and than it sits for 20-30 years before they decide to remake it, and even than they make just "one season" which is pathetic. All the anime I see that gets 2-8 seasons are Bleach,Naruto, and Dragon Ball z. Anime that doesn't interest me at all. I'm really fed up with it. Guyver should have earned a second season. Anime fans can sit around watch dull and dumb stuff, but it when it comes to Guyver they say " Not Enough Ratings". But people can watch Bleach? Really? Thats crap. Guyver had some gore, and good violence in the 2005 show. What was bad about it? I was pleased. Good story with great characters. I don't get people. Quote
alkanfel009 Posted March 22, 2014 Posted March 22, 2014 Anime doesn't seem at all popular like it was in the early to mid 2000's. Seems like anime is going out like an old clothing style or an old song that everyone's heard too much. What I don't like about most Anime is that they only do one season or even half the season, or an OVA or try to show case the whole series in one movie........and than it sits for 20-30 years before they decide to remake it, and even than they make just "one season" which is pathetic. All the anime I see that gets 2-8 seasons are Bleach,Naruto, and Dragon Ball z. Anime that doesn't interest me at all. I'm really fed up with it. Guyver should have earned a second season. Anime fans can sit around watch dull and dumb stuff, but it when it comes to Guyver they say " Not Enough Ratings". But people can watch Bleach? Really? Thats crap. Guyver had some gore, and good violence in the 2005 show. What was bad about it? I was pleased. Good story with great characters. I don't get people. the problem is they do not know to tell the story as I have already mentioned, the cast of the school with super powers against monsters is quite old and outdated, the main interest with anime is money and do not know if it's just me, but vercion guyver 2005, is boring idiot and childish and inconsistent, the movie out of control, animation, the eggs, I even 2 live action, they seem much higher, passes these days as with remakes, as evil dead, robocop, alien predator a good story as the guyver has to be told for adults, not for young children or for adults, and be counted as happened in the 80s, with stories like devilman, bao, action, gore violence, but above all do more aya only the beginning of the school with super powers, this as I seen people piesde the interest just hearing the story, and find out who is a student who fights monsters pd. I almost forgot to mention, the series is better argument mind for me but only after the volume 9 before that I think has many herrores story that are just conbeniensias and understood if we consider the time they appeared, therefore, a correct would be a new movie adaptation, animated, covering the events take 10 to 14 Quote
LordSpleach Posted March 23, 2014 Posted March 23, 2014 Personally, I like the 2005 series the best since it is the closest to the manga in terms of story. However, I'm still confused on why the fighting and gore was toned down. I don't think it was the same situation as the first live-action film where the producers were trying to compete with the Ninja Turtles. Quote
*V Guyver Posted March 23, 2014 Posted March 23, 2014 The anime seemed to of cut out all the action for budget reasons. Almost all the fights were pretty low animation, it wasn't until the latter half episodes we saw some really fantastic animation. I think it also went through the story too fast because it did cut the action. We can understand why though, the series is old and considered cliche by Japanese media. At that point, they didn't care to invest in it like they did to shows like SNK. Heck, it's sad when the fillers for bleach and naruto had better budgets than the 2005 anime. Quote
alkanfel009 Posted March 24, 2014 Posted March 24, 2014 personnellement détester la série 2005, pour être très ennuyeux, même tout l'arc de l'histoire de la première s'est résolu, 11 épisodes, tout en étant plus spécifique, il aurait résolu en seulement 5 ou 6, porquie pas inclure plutôt d'inclure Oswald, une Valkyrie, parce ennuyeux si fade avec des répétitions continues de choses, comme, l'humanité est une arme, Quote
*V Guyver Posted March 25, 2014 Posted March 25, 2014 personnellement détester la série 2005, pour être très ennuyeux, même tout l'arc de l'histoire de la première s'est résolu, 11 épisodes, tout en étant plus spécifique, il aurait résolu en seulement 5 ou 6, porquie pas inclure plutôt d'inclure Oswald, une Valkyrie, parce ennuyeux si fade avec des répétitions continues de choses, comme, l'humanité est une arme, Wrong translation filter my friend. Adeu. Quote
alkanfel009 Posted March 25, 2014 Posted March 25, 2014 ooo sorry, the day I wrote, that part was talking to a friend via facebook personally hate the 2005 series to be very boring, even the whole story arc of the first was resolved, 11 episodes, while being more specific, it would be resolved in just 5 or 6 porquie not include rather include Oswald, a Valkyrie, because so bland boring with continuous repetitions of things like, humanity is a weapon, Quote
*V Guyver Posted March 26, 2014 Posted March 26, 2014 It was part of the theme, but yes maybe too much focus. Though I really like the added Liskar stuff, it was great. I feel it could've been done better ,of course. Quote
alkanfel009 Posted March 26, 2014 Posted March 26, 2014 I feel that we deviate quite the subject of the film in the flesh, so I came up with something that looks like them for someone like nail bloomcan movie, the director of District 9, for the overall plot, but with someone of the ilk of quentin tarantino, for scenes of violence, or failing someone like Zack Snyder, but deve movie and has to be censored ® Quote
Guest snow Posted March 26, 2014 Posted March 26, 2014 (edited) yeah, the fight scenes in the 2005 series were pretty brief thats the downside to anime. There was waaay too much dialogue, sometimes too much dialogue can put someone to sleep. Because after a while the subjects they talk about get to being repetitive about what they're going to do about Chronos, or they spend two episodes just talking and the bad guys, like Richard are scheming up plans while Sho and his friends are on the lamb talking about how they regret everything. I really wanted to see more of Aptom and more zoanoid vs Guyver battles. It just gets old seeing Sho and Tetsuro feeling sorry for themselves and voicing about how things would have been different had they not gone to the pond that day and found the unit. Its a good series,but its good to watch once or twice a year. I can only take so much drama from a show before I get tired of it. I can't believe ADV and Funimation marked an M rating on it. In FYE, they placed M rated anime, M rating being basically what they rate anime porn in with their Porn section, How funny is that? So,I'm going through looking for the new released volume 4, and while I'd be searching,searching as in they put these black plastic sheets over the covers so you really did have to look so how I had to look was...its naked chick with look on her an erotic look on her face, next dvd Guyver 2005 volume 1, girl,girl,girl,anime naked girl, Guyver volume 3, Elfen Lied volume 2, Hellsing,girl in a really awkward position...so on and so forth, finally they had one copy left of volume 4, sweet. I felt victorious having to find Guyver through a huge stack of nudies. I got weird looks from girls that were 16-20 years old shopping there,They would walk by and see me looking for this stuff in the adult section when it first came out. I was thinking to myself as they walked by..."Yep, I bet you do think I'm a perv." Real smart FYE. I asked an employee there and they said it was really violent, only to take it home and watch it and find that it wasn't violent in the sense they thought it was. It didn't have a lot of fighting or zoanoids getting hacked up like the 80's version. They were selling the 80's version in with Dragonball Z. I kind of just shook my head. Stupid. I can't believe they stuck the 2005 version in with porn, who does that!?! Edited March 26, 2014 by Jupiter-Prime Quote
alkanfel009 Posted March 26, 2014 Posted March 26, 2014 yeah, the fight scenes in the 2005 series were pretty brief thats the downside to anime. There was waaay too much dialogue, sometimes too much dialogue can put someone to sleep. Because after a while the subjects they talk about get to being repetitive about what they're going to do about Chronos, or they spend two episodes just talking and the bad guys, like Richard are scheming up plans while Sho and his friends are on the lamb talking about how they regret everything. I really wanted to see more of Aptom and more zoanoid vs Guyver battles. It just gets old seeing Sho and Tetsuro feeling sorry for themselves and voicing about how things would have been different had they not gone to the pond that day and found the unit. Its a good series,but its good to watch once or twice a year. I can only take so much drama from a show before I get tired of it. I can't believe ADV and Funimation marked an M rating on it. In FYE, they placed M rated anime, M rating being basically what they rate anime porn in with their Porn section, How funny is that? So,I'm going through looking for the new released volume 4, and while I'd be searching,searching as in they put these black plastic sheets over the covers so you really did have to look so how I had to look was...its naked chick with look on her an erotic look on her face, next dvd Guyver 2005 volume 1, girl,girl,girl,anime naked girl, Guyver volume 3, Elfen Lied volume 2, Hellsing,girl in a really awkward position...so on and so forth, finally they had one copy left of volume 4, sweet. I felt victorious having to find Guyver through a huge stack of nudies. I got weird looks from girls that were 16-20 years old shopping there,They would walk by and see me looking for this stuff in the adult section when it first came out. I was thinking to myself as they walked by..."Yep, I bet you do think I'm a perv." Real smart FYE. I asked an employee there and they said it was really violent, only to take it home and watch it and find that it wasn't violent in the sense they thought it was. It didn't have a lot of fighting or zoanoids getting hacked up like the 80's version. They were selling the 80's version in with Dragonball Z. I kind of just shook my head. Stupid. I can't believe they stuck the 2005 version in with porn, who does that!?! is simple. guyver can not and should not be seen as a longer school shonen vs monsters, Deven profundisar more in the past before aparesca sho, illustration genesis want more of the remote past, as alkanphel, lived before the creators leave the land, and even more as time trials, where the others were found zoalords was formed, and there is the story of the 12 or 13 zoalords, see more of the fight in arizona of the 4 prototypes, does not interest me a story of a school super entertaining powers they can balance well the history and precenten something like what happened in chapter 4 of the ova of the 80s, the attack to chronos rampant school that's what deven show, Quote
LordSpleach Posted March 27, 2014 Posted March 27, 2014 yeah, the fight scenes in the 2005 series were pretty brief thats the downside to anime. There was waaay too much dialogue, sometimes too much dialogue can put someone to sleep. Because after a while the subjects they talk about get to being repetitive about what they're going to do about Chronos, or they spend two episodes just talking and the bad guys, like Richard are scheming up plans while Sho and his friends are on the lamb talking about how they regret everything. I really wanted to see more of Aptom and more zoanoid vs Guyver battles. It just gets old seeing Sho and Tetsuro feeling sorry for themselves and voicing about how things would have been different had they not gone to the pond that day and found the unit. Its a good series,but its good to watch once or twice a year. I can only take so much drama from a show before I get tired of it. I can't believe ADV and Funimation marked an M rating on it. In FYE, they placed M rated anime, M rating being basically what they rate anime porn in with their Porn section, How funny is that? So,I'm going through looking for the new released volume 4, and while I'd be searching,searching as in they put these black plastic sheets over the covers so you really did have to look so how I had to look was...its naked chick with look on her an erotic look on her face, next dvd Guyver 2005 volume 1, girl,girl,girl,anime naked girl, Guyver volume 3, Elfen Lied volume 2, Hellsing,girl in a really awkward position...so on and so forth, finally they had one copy left of volume 4, sweet. I felt victorious having to find Guyver through a huge stack of nudies. I got weird looks from girls that were 16-20 years old shopping there,They would walk by and see me looking for this stuff in the adult section when it first came out. I was thinking to myself as they walked by..."Yep, I bet you do think I'm a perv." Real smart FYE. I asked an employee there and they said it was really violent, only to take it home and watch it and find that it wasn't violent in the sense they thought it was. It didn't have a lot of fighting or zoanoids getting hacked up like the 80's version. They were selling the 80's version in with Dragonball Z. I kind of just shook my head. Stupid. I can't believe they stuck the 2005 version in with porn, who does that!?! Are you sure about that Jupiter? The FYE in my area has it in the regular anime section, not with the Hentai. 1 Quote
Guest snow Posted March 27, 2014 Posted March 27, 2014 (edited) Yeah, I know what you mean, But I don't think the employee's cared like you and I do, lol. But trust me,they really did stick in with the hentai porn...I thought it was pretty odd, thats why I asked the employee why it was there and they were pretty tight lipped about it. The FYE where I live left our town though, but my friends and I at the time would go and find stuff in weird areas of the store.I miss it though, but I wouldn't lie about them placing it in the nude section. Its funny they did though. It probably had something to do with management. Edited March 27, 2014 by Jupiter-Prime Quote
*V Guyver Posted March 27, 2014 Posted March 27, 2014 Probably someone who had seen the the classic one and thought no better. Quote
*PrimalNemesis Posted April 10, 2014 Posted April 10, 2014 If a new Guyver film were to be made I would like it to be a total reboot. I believe a clean slate is needed so that today's generation of movie goers can have a fresh taste of the Guyver universe. As for who I would like to see direct this film I have a few choices in mind. I would like to see guys like Ridley Scott, James Cameron, and or Guillermo del Toro get the drivers seat in regards to the Guyver film. As for the design of the Guyver and zoanoids I would really like to see the guys who did the creature designs for the Hellboy films pick up the tab. I really think they could bring Takaya's world to life on the big screen. I am not sure who should adapt the story of the manga though. I am not that familiar with good screen writers. 3 Quote
RazorLaser Posted April 10, 2014 Posted April 10, 2014 Or a 2 hour long anime film would be perfect. Akira style. Quote
*guyverfan Posted April 10, 2014 Posted April 10, 2014 I am not sure who should adapt the story of the manga though. I am not that familiar with good screen writers. david hayter comes to mind. 2 Quote
LordSpleach Posted April 10, 2014 Posted April 10, 2014 I am not sure who should adapt the story of the manga though. I am not that familiar with good screen writers. david hayter comes to mind. 2 Quote
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