Guyver arcs!?

[*Del]

No one said that they have to be volume-only suggestions. My idea was to offer the manga up to the point where they introduce Valkyira or Appolyon (whoever was introduced first), because that's a new ongoing story/arc/saga/act/chapter/etc.

[Aether]

whatever dude. i was talking about being absolutely precise, i think close approximations are fine unless you or anyone one else wants to do different. oh thanks for the feedback by the way.

[river_chaos]

The Baka rules and stuff confuse the hell out of me along with the need to divide up a story into arcs, but I will agree with BB Dude and Ryuki on the arc stuff.

i would be tempted to call volume 1 its own arc as well to be honest...

it really is a separate struggle to mount minikami.

I DEFINITELY second this. It was pretty well self contained... then they found out that Cronos was a Multinational Corporation/Secret Society/Cult. That's Why I refer to it as the Cronos Japan Arc.

I meant to comment on this.

I would like to suggest the following to reflect this view.

volume 01 - 01 (Guyver Discovery Arc)

volume 02 - 08 (Guyver Reborn Arc)

volume 09 - 17 (Guyver Gigantic Arc)

volume 18 - 25 (Guyver Gigantic eXceeD Arc)

This is probably going to the most acurate (and probably the best choice) for seperating the Guyver inot arcs.

[Bio-Boosted Dude]

does this baka website require each arc to be named?

because if so then we have a long discussion ahead of us i'm sure. if so....

volume 01 - 01 (Guyver Discovery Arc)

volume 02 - 08 (Guyver Reborn Arc)

volume 09 - 17 (Guyver Gigantic Arc)

volume 18 - 25 (Guyver Gigantic eXceeD Arc)

i don't think 'guyver' needs to go into every title.

using the same arcs as the quoted post:

-Origin of the Guyver arc

-Struggle at Mt. Minikami

-Birth of the Gigantic

-Rescue Aptom

while 'Exceedingly long night' was a charming pun and reference to volume 25's title, it reads a little engrish i think. although i may just think that because of the engrish already associated with the book and on the volume's cover "Exeed long night"

[Larz Zahn]

Haha. i cant comment on the baka rules cause i dont know them, so i'll let that one go. as for the names, i figured everyone is just naming it on a way that referrs to the arc. didnt know the names would be a big deal.

[Bio-Boosted Dude]

I'm about to offer 1-25. I think these don't sound very... i dunno, representative? Clearly "the exceedingly long night" has to change.

well this is why i thought...

[Guest Kenshiro3]

does this baka website require each arc to be named?

because if so then we have a long discussion ahead of us i'm sure. if so....

volume 01 - 01 (Guyver Discovery Arc)

volume 02 - 08 (Guyver Reborn Arc)

volume 09 - 17 (Guyver Gigantic Arc)

volume 18 - 25 (Guyver Gigantic eXceeD Arc)

i don't think 'guyver' needs to go into every title.

using the same arcs as the quoted post:

-Origin of the Guyver arc

-Struggle at Mt. Minikami

-Birth of the Gigantic

-Rescue Aptom

while 'Exceedingly long night' was a charming pun and reference to volume 25's title, it reads a little engrish i think. although i may just think that because of the engrish already associated with the book and on the volume's cover "Exeed long night"

I think this is the best... though I think 26 & 27 should be celled "Advent Rising" because the Advents seem to have returned with their own Agenda.

Edited July 4, 2012 by Kenshiro3

[*Del]

The arc names don't matter but the thing is that the guys at bakabt will ask me about why am i offering Guyver up to volume 25 for example and i'm not even sure if they'll accept the offer because it's still ongoing and there are no official arcs so all of these efforts and talk might be in vain . Since when does "I'm about to do something" mean that that action will be done in a restricted time limit ONLY? And even if i'm wrong on that read the topic people. When Ryuki asked me if i can w8 my next post started with "Sure". I didn't say "Sure i'll w8" but i clearly understood that Ryuki wanted an answer to that particular question, if i didn't have the patience i would have offerred it A LONG TIME AGO IN A GALAXY FAR FAR AWAY! Jesus and you people continue to rub that in my face? How about reading the topic first and then stating your opinion. Ryuki not reading dave's post; Ryuki,Aether and Bio-Bioosted Dude not reading my post, what's going on lol ? Ow yeah and i said that i'm not offering after volume 25 yet Aether proudly (i guess ) stated his opinion on how should those be named !? Lol Kenshiro as well... Well since we're giving them names might as well name the whole thing... Hey how about names for futures arcs? NOOOT

[*Jess♥]

come on man, there's no need to be so adversarial, we're all friends here

the reason I asked what I did was because i thought you'd already agreed to leave it for a week. what you said in the post I was replying to seemed to contradict that and I was confused. I wasn't trying to string you up or anything, neither are anyone else here. I don't know how much reading you do of the discussions that go one here ,but we are not like other forums where every other person is out to flame you or try to embarrass you. everyone who has spoken in this thread has done so with the best possible intentions.

[*Jess♥]

I'm not sure about the smaller arcs ideas. I'd like to see the reasonig behid it and natural stopping points.

I'll go through a summary of how i think the story flows.

I'll put it in a spoiler tag to save space

activation

--guyver 2

----zerbebuth

------enzyme

----headquarters

clone

----lost numbers

------kidnapping

----rescue mission

--fumio still captured

----rescue of fumio

--------fight with fumio

----------appearance of proto-zoalord

--------shou killed EII

----escape in hte rain

------enzyme II group

----picnic

--mizuki runs

--------guyot

--------aptom

----shou looking for group

------takeshiro

--relics point base

----enter the relic

------archanfel arrives

--------zoalord 12 arrive

------base is destroyed

--dust settles as zoalord 12 look on

x-day

--intro to new world

----aptom and zxtole

------guyver gigantic

shou wakes up to new world

----assault on cloud gate

------imakarum

--meeting of hayami

----imakarum again

--------gigantic dark

--the mansion

----aptoms test, gigantic stolen

------branchai bros

--------purgstall

----betrayal

--realisation of aptom's capture and decision to rescue aptom

infiltration to cloud gate and also arizona base (I won't track agito's story, it mirrors shou IMO)

----enzyme 3

--finding aptom in upper chambr

------aptom electrified

--------evil aptom

------guyver deactivated

----hayami goodbye and evil aptom gone

------khan goes mental

--------aptom and shou vs tentacle heads

----draglord stomps on shou

----------gigantic xd appears

------------gigantic xd battles draglord

--------gigantic xd defeats draglord

------appollon appears

--shou meets asou and toki

[*Del]

I'm trying my best to respect everyone's opinion and answer their questions but 3 people quoted me on something i thought i had explained.

[*Jess♥]

I'm trying my best to respect everyone's opinion and answer their questions but 3 people quoted me on something i thought i had explained.

then I apologise in their stead.

please remember that a lot of people don't always have enough time to read every post and also people can be forgetful.

I read every single post, but I don't always remember clearly, as demonstrated by my forgetting Daveblackeye's original suggestion.

[daveblackeye152]

Whoops! Missed that first part. Sorry about that.

[*Jess♥]

it's ok dave

I think this is the best... though I think 26 & 27 should be celled "Advent Rising" because the Advents seem to have returned with their own Agenda.

well we don't know that yet

it sounds like a cool name, maybe if it turns out to be the advents, it could work?

[Guest Kenshiro3]

it's ok dave

I think this is the best... though I think 26 & 27 should be celled "Advent Rising" because the Advents seem to have returned with their own Agenda.

well we don't know that yet

it sounds like a cool name, maybe if it turns out to be the advents, it could work?

True... thats why I added the qualifier "seem." Then again we could always call it "Advents Rising?" XD

Edited July 4, 2012 by Kenshiro3

[Bio-Boosted Dude]

I'm trying my best to respect everyone's opinion and answer their questions but 3 people quoted me on something i thought i had explained.

i wasn't quoting you about you being "about to offer" the volumes, but about how you said ryuki's arc name had to change. and this prompted me to think whether they really are necessary, or just a bit trivial.

sorry if there was misunderstanding

anyway...

[*Jess♥]

I would say that if it were not for the potential of putting guyver on a very popular torrenting site for manga, I would not even think guyver ever needed 'arcs'. it's not really been so formulaic as something like naruto or dragonball.

but to put it on bakabt, it would help to allay issues of other people making torrents without talking to us or getting our blessing. it would also bring more people to guyver and push the goals of guyver advocacy.

naming them is not necessary, they could just be numbered.

from looking at the breakdown i put in my earlier post, it is my opinion that there are currently three large story arcs, the first two having a prologue of sorts.

the first volume is like a prologue for arc 1.

x-day and neozxtole fight is like a prologue for arc 2.

arc 3, looking at it, seems like it has no real prologue, unless we could consider the journey to the chamber where aptom is kept as a prologue of sorts? but it doesn't wind down as much as with the earlier 'prologues'.

I guess referring to them as 'prologue' is wrong, but I hope you understand what I'm getting at.

[*Del]

Okay, so...

[*Jess♥]

I think you scared people off Del.

it's pretty showing that after your last post hardly anyone replied in this thread.

if you care for this community, it is my opinion that an apology would go a long way, but that is your own decision.

with regards to the torrent, I think your intentions are good and we do seem to have gotten a clear indication here that most would want 4 arcs for what we have so far. that is how I perceive it.

I give permission to distribute our work as 4 arcs on bakabt.

[*YoungGuyver]

In my opinion, as I see the Arc laid out for story such as a tv season or such:

Arc 1 Relics

From Sho bonding with the unit to being destroyed in the mountain. We are always learning the past an going on the run

Arc 2 New world order

Sho unveiling the Gigantic to going Exceed and rescuing Aptom. We are now in the underground (role reversal between good and bad) resistance

Arc 3 Power moves

Everything to it's current point

[TheAptomStrain]

My idea for the arcs is quite similar to what others have posted.

1-8: Beginning/Relic's Point

9-16: Chronos' at its peak

17-25: Rescue Aptom

26-??: Maybe final arc?

Not saying the names I chose are particularly great, it's just what I always thought of thinking about them.

[*Del]

Sorry if i offended someone, that wasn't my intention.

I'm back and ready to do it. Which arc names should i use again?

[*Jess♥]

I think when it was suggested that we don't need names or that we shouldn't name them, that was a good idea because we would be arguing for months about names.

I think the following characterises the existing arcs and after that I believe bbdudes names are sensible if names are really necessary.

volume 01 - 01

volume 02 - 08

volume 09 - 17

volume 18 - 25

-Origin of the Guyver arc

-Struggle at Mt. Minikami

-Birth of the Gigantic

-Rescue Aptom

* if 1 volume is rejected as being too short then the other alternative is to have the following.

volume 01 - 08

volume 09 - 17

volume 18 - 25

[daveblackeye152]

I much like the second scheme more. Yeah I guess the first book could kinda be its own little tiny arc but then the third book cold be its own little arc too. So I think 1-8 is good.

[*Del]

One more thing. I need to pick several images from volumes 1-25 (so that people can see what they're about to download when they see the guyver torrent) and i usually upload around 5 images. So if you can guys help me out and pick 5 images from those 25 volumes, which you think represent guyver at its best. And if possible they shouldn't be double pages and not consecutive or part of the same volume (i'd like to show different scenes from different volumes). Feel free to post your suggestions, otherwise i'll pick them on my own.