Bobby Posted January 23, 2011 Posted January 23, 2011 And if they want to bring in Toxin, they need Venom & Carnage. The Carnage Symbiote is the Toxin Symbiote's parent and that makes the Venom Symbiote the grandparent. Toxin is a good guy and the only Symbiote that Spider-Man considers to be an ally. Quote
odin Posted January 24, 2011 Author Posted January 24, 2011 And if they want to bring in Toxin, they need Venom & Carnage. The Carnage Symbiote is the Toxin Symbiote's parent and that makes the Venom Symbiote the grandparent. Toxin is a good guy and the only Symbiote that Spider-Man considers to be an ally. yeah but he has not gotten that famous so i doubt we will see him any time soon in the movies, unless they introduce him in the Venom spin-off movie, carnage and venom have a better chance than toxin, hybrid of any of venom's spawns. Quote
Bobby Posted January 24, 2011 Posted January 24, 2011 I didn't even know about The Spot until the Spider-Man cartoon on Fox. Toxin is Venom's grandson. His host is a cop and he made a deal with the symbiote that they both honor. Patrick, the host, will have complete control of the symbiote, if he allows Toxin two hours of "playtime" each night. But in those two hours, Toxin is not allowed to commit any acts of grand theft, arson, rape, or homicide. Quote
Mirabilis Posted January 24, 2011 Posted January 24, 2011 I wonder if there gonna reboot Blade and GhostRider too, sense they are rebooting pratically every other marvel film anyways. GhostRider is my favorite hero of all, so if they ever do a reboot I hope they get it right. Would be cool if he was in the Avenger's film but I'm not expecting it. From the very beggining of Spider-man (with Toby) they should of linked all the marvel film's together. For ex: They should of had anti-mutant protest against Spider-man, or have in the background a tv news caster talking about Frank Castle's disappearance. You, know stuff like that, or Tony Starrk's new weapons development or the Vampire Hunter Blade killing more people, he thought were vampires, would of been cool to have them all be in the same universe, without actual cameo apparances. For the villain in this new one, I hope it is Lizard, he's my favorite Spider-man villain and I've been waiting for him to appear sense the second Toby Spider-man film. And as far as the reboot of the Punisher, why did they do that in the first place? I never saw the reboot, because I liked the first one it was awesome imo. They should of had a Spider-man film were Spidy (throughout the film) grew an extra arm, but it quickly went back into his body, and other side affects like that happening, until the very end of the film he became Man-spider. Then they could of made a sequel to Punisher where Frank Castle hunted Man-spider. OH well, listen to me rant I look forward to seeing this new Spiddy movie regardless! Quote
durendal Posted January 24, 2011 Posted January 24, 2011 In earlier years, Marvel had difficulty linking films together because they had licensed the rights of their characters to other companies. Which is why most of the earlier marvel movies somewhat failed in the box office. As for Ghostrider, I heard that they will be making a sequel, with Nick Cage reprising his role as Johnny Blaze. Good Old nick is a comics fan after all. Also, the reboot seems to be more of a recent thing because they had only established the Marvel Cinamatic Universe with Iron Man. So any marvel movies that comes out after that would be connected, which is why the need to reboot some of the characters. With the new spidey movie, I do hope that Spidey gets more wise cracking. I seem to notice that he lacked this particular aspect in the Raimi films. Quote
Mirabilis Posted January 24, 2011 Posted January 24, 2011 Thats cool, I knew that Nick was a Rider's fan but I wasnt too sure if they were making a sequel. Maybe they'll have Lelith in it or something. The first one was cool, but I think it could of had more action in it. And it's too bad they never got to make the Black Panther, wasn't he apart of the Avenger's too? Quote
durendal Posted January 24, 2011 Posted January 24, 2011 Ghost Rider 2: Spirit of Vengeance seems to be the working title and it supposedly deals with the devil trying to become human. I've heard that it's slated to be released in 2012. I've also read somewhere that Marvel has been trying to bring movie to obscure characters like Black Panther, Antman and other lesser know characters. I'm just not too sure as to where they are now. And yes, they were part of the Avengers for a time. Anyway, those titles have little to do with Spiderman at the moment, but would be cool for them to have a cameo in the spidey movie. That would really bring in more speculations and interest in the marvel cinematic universe. Even if they don't appear as themselves in the movie, anything attached to them, say, like a newspaper announcing the new king of Wakanda or somesorts, would be enough to link them to the cinematic universe. Quote
Bobby Posted January 24, 2011 Posted January 24, 2011 I also noticed that about Spidey. He hardly cracked jokes. He's known for that. It ticks his enemies off and ultimately makes them let their guards down. One of Ghost Rider's other most well known enemies is Blackout. He's a guy with light sensitive skin and mechanical fangs. Quote
Mirabilis Posted January 29, 2011 Posted January 29, 2011 I watched Spidy 3 the other day, and I noticed what you ment durendal, about his lack of sarcasm. You know, those little comments like "Hey, why don't hang-out for a bit?" haha. Quote
Bobby Posted January 29, 2011 Posted January 29, 2011 Interesting factoid about Spider-Man 3: The scene where Spidey initially defeated Sandman is just like how he first defeated him in the comics. Quote
Guest DekaWalMartRed Posted February 11, 2011 Posted February 11, 2011 The image below was just released showing the first idea of what Spider-Man’s full costume will look like in the upcoming film.The suit is being worn by a stunt man, not actor Andrew Garfield and therefore has less details but it can now be confirmed that the Spider-Man of the new film will have web shooters (glimpsed by many eagle-eyed fans on the previous image)! It is still unclear if the ‘shoes and other odd details in the costumed seen below will be seen in the costume worn by Garfield or if these are details that are only seen in the stunt costume. The 2012 Spider-Man film will be a re-imagining of the character developing Stan Lee and Steve Ditko’s Marvel creation from the ground up. Set during Peter Parker’s high school days, the movie is a total reboot that Sony hopes will spawn several sequels. Starring Andrew Garfield as Peter Parker, Rhys Ifans as the Lizard, Emma Stone as Gwen Stacy, Denis Leary as Captain Stacy, Martin Sheen as Uncle Ben and Sally Field as Aunt May. Rumored to be heavily influenced by the Ultimate Spider-Man comic book series by Brian Michael Bendis and Mark Bagley, the Marc Webb movie will take the character familiar to millions and modernize him for a modern audience. Quote
odin Posted February 11, 2011 Author Posted February 11, 2011 aww you beat me to it, thanks anyways Deka Quote
odin Posted February 11, 2011 Author Posted February 11, 2011 yea, i though so too, my expectations where low from the beginning but now it is even lower. Quote
Guest DekaWalMartRed Posted February 16, 2011 Posted February 16, 2011 The forthcoming 'Spider-Man' movie is to be named 'The Amazing Spider-Man' – the same name as the original series of comics featuring the super hero.Filming is already underway on the eagerly awaited movie, but it's only now that Columbia Pictures have announced the movie’s title. The reboot will be substantially different from the previous films. The appropriately named Marc Webb has taken over directing duties from Sam Raimi, who helmed the hugely successful trilogy, while Andrew Garfield is replacing Tobey Maguire for the role of the web-slinging superhero. The new film intends to follow the original comics more closely, and evidence of this can be seen in the new picture below. Spider-Man clearly has buttons on his wrists to launch his famous web fluid – something missing from the last set of films. In the comics, Peter Parker is a science nerd who inherits amazing agility and super-sense from a radioactive spider bite, then sets about building high-tech web-shooters for his wrists so he can swing and climb like a spider. In Sam Raimi’s movies, the spider bite gives him the power to organically squirt web fluid directly out of his wrists – something that caused great dismay among spider-fans as it downplayed the student Peter Parker’s scientific ability. To their relief, this rogue ability has been ditched for the new series of films. It was actually ‘Avatar’ director James Cameron who came up with the controversial ‘biological’ web idea. Cameron wrote a lengthy treatment for a Spider-Man movie in the 1990s, but the movie never got made. While most of Cameron’s story idea was jettisoned when Sam Raimi took over the project, his plan to axe the traditional mechanical web-shooters made it through. Sam Raimi’s movies also saw Peter Parker leave high school quickly, but Marc Webb is following the comics closely here too and keeping him firmly in class. For years, the comic book focused on Parker struggling with the twin problems of a typical adolescent schoolboy and a super hero battling adult super villains. Another difference will be the love interest in the movie. Instead of Mary Jane, 'The Amazing Spider-Man' will feature Gwen Stacey as Parker's first major girlfriend – another clue that the film is remaining true to Stan Lee’s original comic book's history. Shot in 3D, 'The Amazing Spider-Man' will be released next summer. Quote
*Jess♥ Posted February 16, 2011 Posted February 16, 2011 that image looks a lot better than that nappy runner up there. it's a good publicity shot, I wonder how effective it will look on the big screen. Quote
Bobby Posted February 16, 2011 Posted February 16, 2011 My dad's not happy about the suit's appearance. Quote
*Steel Posted February 18, 2011 Posted February 18, 2011 The suit is very Ben Reilly Spider-man. I'm sure the did a more drastic redesign of the classic suit to differenciate it from the pervious trillogy. The Web Shooters and silver boot things look rather odd though. I get the point of actualy having more than just thin spandex protecting your feet but why have them silver? and I thought that Spidey could only grip to walls because of the thinness of his costume. Thats why he cant do it through shoes. Quote
Bobby Posted February 18, 2011 Posted February 18, 2011 I was thinking the exact same thing about Ben Reilly!!!! No. The movie showed that the tiny hairs on his hands & feet are what allows him to cling to walls. Like a regular spider. It was a fly crawling on the wall that led to Stan "The God Of Comics" Lee coming up with what would be the most popular, and most human, super hero of all time. Quote
Oberon Posted February 18, 2011 Posted February 18, 2011 In the second picture - the publicity one you can't see the boots so MAYBE the silvery appearance was for the stunt man and the camera effects. Remember if they are going to CGI stuff they have to have tie in points so maybe the silver colour on the soles of the stuntman image was to help the CGI crews fix up the image. The costume does look a bit different from the originals but obviously if they want to properly reboot then they have to make some changes. Though a reboot really just means they lost control of the original or had no real vision for a proper future with it. As far as I can remember the original Spiderman comic never explained HOW he stuck to things, he just stuck. I COULD be wrong on this though or it could be something they put in later. Spiderman 2099 DID explain how he stuck to things and that was via the tiny barbs on hands and feet. I remember watching the movie thinking 'Oh nice touch from 2099' to modernize and explain stuff so to me it was always a bit odd that the first Spiderman movie didn't have the webshooters but went with Spiderman 2099 powers. Quote
Bobby Posted February 18, 2011 Posted February 18, 2011 One has to consider the anatomy of a spider. How did they stick to surfaces??? Tiny hairs on their feet. Quote
*Steel Posted February 19, 2011 Posted February 19, 2011 Even so my point still stands. Spidey shouldn't be able to stick too walls with soles on his feet. In the comics they had Ezekiel, who posessed the same powers as Peter and had to take off his loafers too stick to the wall. I'd like to think that the silver boot things are just so the stuntman dosn't hurt his feet and it'll be CGIed out but there are easier ways of disguising it than CGI. Heck if they were red then you probubly woulnd't see them anyway without a close look. They could easily be pattered to blend in. I really think they are part of the design. Same silver as the ugly web shooters. Seriously those things are huge looking. Quote
Guest DekaRed Posted February 19, 2011 Posted February 19, 2011 well i reckon the comics did explain the sticking to walls a bit. remember how kaine had amplified versions of peters powers, as in the visions of the future being an amplified spider sense. well i do believe it was also explained that the mark of kaine was his amplified adhesion. and his ability to rip walls down, just by placing his hands flat on them and pulling. in this manner the adhesion is a form of suction. like an octopus i reckon. can be switched on or off. Quote
*Steel Posted February 19, 2011 Posted February 19, 2011 Yeah thats true. The mark of Kaine would kind of burn your face off. Hairs or even talons 2099 style wouldn't do that. It was something a little more adhesive based. It would be something that he'd have to control or he'd just stick to everything he touched. Quote
Oberon Posted February 19, 2011 Posted February 19, 2011 Even so my point still stands. Spidey shouldn't be able to stick too walls with soles on his feet. In the comics they had Ezekiel, who posessed the same powers as Peter and had to take off his loafers too stick to the wall. I'd like to think that the silver boot things are just so the stuntman dosn't hurt his feet and it'll be CGIed out but there are easier ways of disguising it than CGI. Heck if they were red then you probubly woulnd't see them anyway without a close look. They could easily be pattered to blend in. I really think they are part of the design. Same silver as the ugly web shooters. Seriously those things are huge looking. No, you missed my point with the CGI reference. When you do it, if you want to put in other back grounds or stuff like that and let's face it they are going to need to 'touch up' that shot a lot, you need reference points on the body to make sure that everything slots in okay. Hence the silver of the bottom could be part of reference system so that they get the feet right. That shot wasn't meant to be a great one or a publicity one anyway so I wouldn't make too much out of it. It's almost like you are trying to ruin the movie for yourself before you even get there by pick apart stuff that really isn't going to be important in Hollywood where really they aren't making a movie for you, a fan of spiderman, they are making a movie for the masses, who frankly have more money to spend. They care about what looks good, not what is cannonly correct. Also, the point about sticking to walls may be valid but it is not valid to spiderman who DOES stick to walls through his shoes and originally just 'stuck' with no explanation as to how. It was the 2099 Spiderman that had the tiny barbs and the first movie one. Now if they are going to make spiderman then they can have him stick to walls through anything because if you want to go the barbs won't go through his shoes, well they weren't long enough to really effectively go through the gloves either but there you are. It's fiction. His sticking power works any way it wants and doesn't just follow physics to make fans feel better. And it's Hollywood, which quadruples the 'if it looks good, it works' factor. Quote
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