Why do jerks and creeps keep getting the girls

[Larz Zahn]

well... i never been popular, but i never been hated on either. im more of what you would call a self imposed outcast. i can recall lots of times where a girl, or girls have reached out to me to be friends and talk, and for no reason other than i paniced or just was to shy to talk to a cute girl, i shot them down.

really stupid actually, i had the entire cheerleader squad wantin to sit with me at lunch. maybe they were put up to it i dunno, but as soon as the first girl sat down i rocketed up and out of the cafe.

and the times where i actually had the nerve to speak to a girl i liked.. i usually ended that with saying somehting incredibly stupid, or mean to her with out realizing it until after i said it... its one of the times when you say to yourself, "wow, that didnt sound so bad in my head...."

im 23 now and i can just barely hold a conversation with a girl for about 3 minutes without seriously embarassing myself, or getting them mad at me... its a long slow road but its progress i guess.

[*Jess♥]

I think jerks get girls because they are so shallow all they are interested in is sex and they bend their entire will and life into getting it.

I figured out why i can't get a girlfriend. it's because i don't want one.

even though i am human and obviously want to get naughty sometimes.. it requires to much energy that I really want to be putting into my career.

I know deep down that a woman would ruin my life. she would take to much of my attention and energy.

[Wiedergänger]

I know deep down that a woman would ruin my life.

While many would say that is too true, I have to disagree. Ryuki, it'll only ruin your life if you...this is hard to say...let it? Is that right?

You have to be positive about these things and keep trying till the bitter end - much like teh Japanese and their warrior spirit. Ganbate! <- hope I spelled that correctly >.>

[*Jess♥]

While many would say that is too true, I have to disagree. Ryuki, it'll only ruin your life if you...this is hard to say...let it? Is that right?

You have to be positive about these things and keep trying till the bitter end - much like teh Japanese and their warrior spirit. Ganbate! <- hope I spelled that correctly >.>

no, I know what you are saying and you are correct of course.

I'm not suggesting that It would ruin my life through any reason other than my puttig a priority onto it.

I know that when there is a woman in my life, I will make a lot of effort and neglect other things.

when hormones are involved it is easy to cloud your judgement. it becomes very difficult to balance yourself.

and why unbalance your life if the woman in question is not truly worth it?

of course if i met a woman who was really something special, then i would say that it would be worth all the effort in the world. but most of the women i meet are shallow and selfish.

I actually think it is very hard to find a decent woman in the same way as it is hard for women to find a decent guy.

I did see a decent woman but I doubt that it is likely i will be in hte position to spend time with this woman. I saw her on big brother. maysoon.

I was very impressed by her. I don't normally take an interest on people i see on tv as i know a lot of it can be fake but a couple of tings about here really caught my attention. she had a keen eye for detail and was very good at picking up new skills. these are things i don't see often and things that i find very attractive. I like strong women and talented women.

like attracts like. they say opposites attract but this is not true. well maybe it is true on a superficial level, but deep down on a emotional maturity level it is not true. like attracts like and people will always spend more time with people at their emotional level. this is why you see the same women with hte same guys.

the women won't go with some guys simply because they aren't mature enough and couldn't cope with it.

people of the same emotional maturity are a lot rarer and sinice they are more mature they are going to be more cautious.

[Wiedergänger]

no, I know what you are saying and you are correct of course.

I'm not suggesting that It would ruin my life through any reason other than my puttig a priority onto it.

I know that when there is a woman in my life, I will make a lot of effort and neglect other things.

when hormones are involved it is easy to cloud your judgement. it becomes very difficult to balance yourself.

and why unbalance your life if the woman in question is not truly worth it?

I understand completly.^^

of course if i met a woman who was really something special, then i would say that it would be worth all the effort in the world. but most of the women i meet are shallow and selfish.

I actually think it is very hard to find a decent woman in the same way as it is hard for women to find a decent guy.

Actually, I should think the women has a more difficult time. I don't know about your past experiences, but from mine: the men are usually the shallow ones. No offence meant, Ryuki.

I did see a decent woman but I doubt that it is likely i will be in hte position to spend time with this woman. I saw her on big brother. maysoon.

I was very impressed by her. I don't normally take an interest on people i see on tv as i know a lot of it can be fake but a couple of tings about here really caught my attention. she had a keen eye for detail and was very good at picking up new skills. these are things i don't see often and things that i find very attractive. I like strong women and talented women.

Sorry, I don't watch much T.V. so, this portion is lost on me >.>

like attracts like. they say opposites attract but this is not true. well maybe it is true on a superficial level, but deep down on a emotional maturity level it is not true. like attracts like and people will always spend more time with people at their emotional level. this is why you see the same women with hte same guys.

the women won't go with some guys simply because they aren't mature enough and couldn't cope with it.

people of the same emotional maturity are a lot rarer and sinice they are more mature they are going to be more cautious.

I wholeheartedly agree. Like indeed attracts like. This isn't science, something so - forgive the diction here - 'cold' and 'based in fact'. Love is neither of the two things. There was one time, my only girlfriend ever, and we were indeed entire opposites. She dumped me for my best-friend a week after. Life is life, if I were mature enough to not have hated her, I would have seen she was much more happy with him; and that should have sated me.^^ But, as you've said, people tend to stay on their same maturity level.

Edited August 18, 2008 by Wiedergänger

[*Jess♥]

Actually, I should think the women has a more difficult time. I don't know about your past experiences, but from mine: the men are usually the shallow ones. No offence meant, Ryuki.

none taken, we can only know our own universe.

I have known a lot of men and women and I have found that there has been a larger percentage of men who are not very shallow.

more of the women i met have been very shallow. this is not to say most of the people i known were shallow, I have know an awful lot of both men and women who have been deep and interesting.

I have found that i can have stimulating conversations mostly with men though.

[Wiedergänger]

none taken, we can only know our own universe.

Well said!

[Lyphforse_Guyver]

To SOME degree I am in the same frame of mind as Ryuki, my time is valuable to me and in order to get some of my time you would have to important in some way to get it. Also I'm not a manipulator by nature(a jerk) and I lack the friendly compassionate side of a nice guy. My choice is solitude. If I need physical attention, their are pros out there that can satisfy my "needs". In short I don't get women because I don't look or work to get them because I see most of them as a waste of my time.

Edited August 19, 2008 by Lyphforse_Guyver

[Wiedergänger]

To SOME degree I am in the same frame of mind as Ryuki, my time is valuable to me and in order to get some of my time you would have to important in some way to get it. Also I'm not a manipulator by nature(a jerk) and I lack the friendly compassionate side of a nice guy. My choice is solitude. If I need physical attention, their are pros out there that can satisfy my "needs". In short I don't get women because I don't look or work to get them because I see most of them as a waste of my time.

Aren't we the cold one, lol? But seriously. Getting your 'satisfaction' from teh 'pros' might not be all that safe; then again, nothing ever is.

I learned that SOME women were a waste of time, but, I can't help but feel that one day I'll be "love-struck" lol. It's happened once, it can happen again.

But I'm getting off topic so, bye!

[*Jess♥]

Aren't we the cold one, lol? But seriously. Getting your 'satisfaction' from teh 'pros' might not be all that safe; then again, nothing ever is.

I learned that SOME women were a waste of time, but, I can't help but feel that one day I'll be "love-struck" lol. It's happened once, it can happen again.

But I'm getting off topic so, bye!

I did some website work for an 'agency' so i took the opportunity to ask how they get away with it.

apparently the police around here prefer them to have 'agency' because it keeps tehm in a place tehy can keep an eye on them and also they have to have regular medical checkups and use the appropriate protection.

so in some ways... if you are willing to go and take that kind of action, it is a lot safer than going for some random chick in a club.

[Lyphforse_Guyver]

Aren't we the cold one, lol? But seriously. Getting your 'satisfaction' from teh 'pros' might not be all that safe; then again, nothing ever is.

I learned that SOME women were a waste of time, but, I can't help but feel that one day I'll be "love-struck" lol. It's happened once, it can happen again.

But I'm getting off topic so, bye!

Yes, I can be.

[durendal]

I have found that i can have stimulating conversations mostly with men though.

Careful Ryuki, for some, that phrase can give off a very different meaning.

On a slightly different but related topic, I think that the reason behind the girl wanting to have a boyfriend, any boyfriend, would change the perspective of the people around her. For example, if the girl has a boyfriend, more guys would be noticing her and she would have more access to a conversation with guys. Just to say that she cen get a better boyfriend by having a slightly lower quality boyfriend. There are just times when they do have a jerk boyfriend, they find it hard to break up with them.

[*Jess♥]

Careful Ryuki, for some, that phrase can give off a very different meaning.

really?

oh, i think i see what you mean.

should i change the word stimulating to intellectual instead? hmm...

[CustodianGuyver]

Well interesting topic. We are all here like minded fans who are Guyver fans. Well what I read on girls and chicks in this topic most off it seems truth.

The way I see it if the chick does not like for who you are and breaks up with you I say stuff her and good riddance.

This will be a bit pain full for me, but I will say it anyway. I am 27 year old and never had a girlfriend. My biggest fear in life right now is been alone and single forever. The reason for it I don't really go out of my way to find 1 not since high school bad luck with chicks. I am not a guy who likes to go to night clubs or pubs. Places like that I never liked. Plus I don't drink and smoke anyway to go to the places like that. Been only 2 times in a night club only.

I went to the prostitues only once when I was 23. At first it felt good that I had sex with a chick for the first time, but after 3 to 4 weeks it had a far more negative effect on me. Thoughts off mine where like is this the only way I can get a chick. That thought got me way more depressed.

Chicks personalty is more important to me now then say how the chicks looks. The more nicer or hotter the chick looks the more sluttier or arrogant her attidue would be. The less attractive the chick is the nicer her personalty would be. This is not the case with every chick, but with most it is.

I would rather have 1 girlfriend which is right for me then 10000 sluts any day. Besides sluts can give you gential herpies and aids so no thanks lol.

Well if I end up never finding a chick I know at least I got other cool stuff such as guyver,anime,warhammer,warhammer 40000,games,my few good friends and my good family.

In a way I am happy what I have now. All I need is right girl.

I was thinking of trying Internet dating, but I always get stopped by a my own voice in the head saying it's for truly despperate men.

[*V Guyver]

that's very similar to me, minus the whole prostitute thing and I actually had one girlfriend. I've only been a club once, it was no fun, especially the deafening rave music. I have no clue why girls like it aside from getting drunk, and I know guys only like it because of the drunk girls dancing.

[durendal]

I think what you mentioned would be a wholly different topic, but since you started it, I suppose there's nothing wrong with discussing this.

CustodianGuyver, it's not really a bad idea to try internet dating. You can take it as meeting new people, and not necessarily to find relationship. The opposite gender can usually tell when you approach them and only wanting one thing. Which is always the first impression that turns them away. If a girl that you do not find attractive approaches you and you see that their intention is to make you their boyfriend, would you be willing to go out with her? The trick here is to become friendly with them without the intention of becoming boy/girlfriend. Also, you need to be very careful as becoming a friend for too long will make you as the best friend with a very slim chance of starting a relationship.

I have friends that have relationship which started online. And to this day they are very happy. It comes naturally, and its up to you do decide if you want to take the chance that is given to you or not.

[CustodianGuyver]

I think what you mentioned would be a wholly different topic, but since you started it, I suppose there's nothing wrong with discussing this.

CustodianGuyver, it's not really a bad idea to try internet dating. You can take it as meeting new people, and not necessarily to find relationship. The opposite gender can usually tell when you approach them and only wanting one thing. Which is always the first impression that turns them away. If a girl that you do not find attractive approaches you and you see that their intention is to make you their boyfriend, would you be willing to go out with her? The trick here is to become friendly with them without the intention of becoming boy/girlfriend. Also, you need to be very careful as becoming a friend for too long will make you as the best friend with a very slim chance of starting a relationship.

I have friends that have relationship which started online. And to this day they are very happy. It comes naturally, and its up to you do decide if you want to take the chance that is given to you or not.

Internet you can meet interesting people I can agree with that. There are also weird sexual predators using that internet dating service. So rule no1 would be meet the person that you started talking to online somewhere public for a few times till you can judge if this person is not dangerous. Answer to your question is I would try to date girl that is not good looking on the outside could turn out to be very nice person on the inside.

Which in turn could be a easy and pleasant person to live with together as opposed to some hot attractive chick with really annoying bitchy personallity.

There is a saying looks fade away with age. Even hottest super model looses her looks with age.

When I was younger I always use to try pick good looking girls and most off them had bad personality. I saw after that it was a buggering waste off time. SORRY FOR SWEARING If they don't like me for who I am I say piss off. Same with people and future girlfriend.

1 question I have for everyone. Is it possible for human begin to live alone without them ever wanting to have a sexual partner?

That story with Mary Virgin on her never having sexual contact with men and people like her? Do they actually exist or is it all some bull drenn made by catholic religion? In my opinion people that are like saints and don't want sexual relationship do not exist.

Sorry for going a bit off topic. Don't want this thread to become religious thread.

Best thing for a new relationship is just be true to yourself and be yourself. Not try to act all cool and stupid in front of girls.

Edited August 19, 2008 by CustodianGuyver

[Lyphforse_Guyver]

1 question I have for everyone. Is it possible for human begin to live alone without them ever wanting to have a sexual partner?

I'm sure their is, they just need plenty of hand lotion.

[CustodianGuyver]

I'm sure their is, they just need plenty of hand lotion.

lol good joke. I meant it as an actual fact. Maybe there are some people who don't need sex or masturbation at all. Like super monks that can break steel with their hands and maybe fly for short amount of time.

If I had a Guyver unit sex would be boring, because I would be slicing people apart with vibrational swords lol. Besides I always wanted to be a chef and as a Guyver host I can be cool chef. Think off all the cool ways i can slice the meat and remove people's heads with Guyver vibrational swords. :lol:

I would become the worlds best psycho chef.

[*V Guyver]

Well there are people like me who would prefer to get married first before having sex, but there is a limit to that too.

Then we have people who have sworn off sex, and looked what happens in some cases, we get a priest fondling some people, usually children or each other. Oddly enough, I have yet to hear about any Nuns breaking that rule for some time now. (Also have to wonder why the priests didn't try them out instead of kids)

Human beings biologically do need some sexual experience, and 99% out of there are guaranteed to resort to some form of sexual stimulation such as masturbation. I didn't start the whole masturbation thing until I just recently, but that was due to doctors orders. I'm 24 now, and I pretty much didn't do that thing until shortly after I turned 24. Now that I've done it, I'm more open to it, but it's still a thing I don't feel comfortable doing. So I don't expect myself to go around doing it other then to umm... let's just say that my inaction in sex caused biological problems of it's own that forced me to simulate it. It's pretty embarrassing, so I wont go into details. Hell I don't know why I'm Even telling anyone this.

[durendal]

There is a possibility that human can live without the opposite sex. In terms of relieving sexual tendencies, its all psychological. Also, "spanking the monkey" is relatively healthy. The testicles manufacture sperm cells constantly, and you need to expel them out of your body. This is why we have Wet Dreams.

Also, in terms of beauty, Women are like fine wine, the get better as they age. It is true that some women lose their beauty when they age, but they gain a certain wisdom that would make up for the loss of their youth. Just look at Demi Moore, ask why Ashton Kutcher married her.

[*V Guyver]

The truth about aging is that if you have partner, the aging process is so gradual that you wouldn't notice many changes. In the end you'll probably love her despite the age because it's a familiar face that you recognise so easily and at one point may actually begin to feel unnatural if you don't see it for some time. The only drawbacks to ageing in relationships is lower sex drives, wrinkles, and of course the ever increasing chance of death as you gradually grow older (which is an afterthought at most).

[*Jess♥]

It's pretty embarrassing, so I wont go into details. Hell I don't know why I'm Even telling anyone this.

well I think that a lot of people will have a lot of respect for you saying that although most of the time it is a very embarrasssing subject for people.

custodian I can relate to a lot of what you said.

I have had a lot of relationships with women in various stages, but up until recently i never had a relationship where i would cosider having a girlfriend.

in hte past there have been relationships where we have said "i am your boyfriend/girlfriend" but the relationship didn't reflect that in my view, there was some vital elements missing.

more recently i had a relationship where she kept saying " I don't want to be your girlfriend" but at the end of teh day all of the elements and emotions were present so In my view, she was.

but I have never had a relationship that I am 100% happy with.

well I have been 100% happy on one occasion.

with my most recent relationship there was one moment where i was totally in heave, where I felt completely loved and everything was right in hte world. it lasted for about 10 seconds.

and no, sex had nothing to do with it.

as for some people living their life without sex...

in this society, it is nigh impossible. because temptation is absolutely EVERYWHERE.

our society is full of lust. your hormones are stimulated everywhere you look and it's very hard to ignore them.

if you were in an environment without all that temptation, you wouldn't think of sex. if you were a hermit living in a cave,you could easily live a happy life without any thoughts of sex.

yeah you would get morning glory a lot, but that goes away as soon as you stand up, and it's not a mental thing.

hmm, this discussion is becomeing more about sex. I just want to drop this in here just to be safe - the website host is very clear on no pornography or explicit matter, i think this includes words, so we just need to be careful how we talk. that's all

custodian, I am quite surprised at your experience with Chefs. I never met a chef who cut people's heads off. I hope i never meet a chef like that.

[Larz Zahn]

its all in the secret sauce. he probably will become a world renowned chef... would that be twisted but just like this world??

[*V Guyver]

I had no intention about this thread leading to sex. Just tried to make a point about how some people can deal with being alone, and that their biological urges would force many to actively go out and get women. I think all people can become happy alone, it just isn't as easy without someone to care for you. In my case, I have a cat that I have an emotional bond and who I baby practically. In turn she follows me around the house, attacks my annoying brother out of jealously, and often leaves dead rodents she hinted near me as a present as I sleep. If I wanted to, I could probably live pretty happy alone, even without pets, and just with a PC in front of me. But it's almost impossible for a man to remain sane without and form of interaction.

But we've gotten off track here haven't we?

My new question is this; "Why do people cling to unhealthy relationships?"