Godzilla

[odin]

has that guy joined up on here? I think Lordspleach said he recognised the logo. I do too. I am sure I saw it as an avatar. was it 'mutronics'?

 

no... mutronics had guyver 1 from hte movie.

 

I don't think he has been here yet, I will probably recommend the forum to him and see if it peaks his interest.

[Purgstall]

I'm sorry, but I cannot help but feel that Godzilla looks stubby armed and obese. Perhaps the toys are just poor representations of how Godzilla will be shown in the film. Hopefully this is the case.

Godzilla has had stubby arms and thunder theighs before. Just look at Heisei Godzilla. 

 

My biggest complaint for LPG is the elephant feet. Just doesn't appeal to me. Overall, it's an ok design. Not the best but definitely not the worst. Plus, it actually looks like Godzilla.

[*V Guyver]

I think they gave him the elephant feet because of all the Godzilla science spewed out about how he might actually support his weight like that. Unlike Zilla, who would of collapsed under his own mass. 

On a note, Godzilla was already chubby in various incarnations. 

[Guest snow]

When is the new Godzilla coming the theatres?

[LordSpleach]

May 16 for the United States.

[Guest snow]

sounds exciting, I really want to see it. I heard Summer Glau is going to be in it.

Edited March 31, 2014 by Jupiter-Prime

[Purgstall]

sounds exciting, I really want to see it. I heard Summer Glau is going to be in it.

She's not in the movie. If she was, we would've heard about it a loooong time ago.

[odin]

Japan is getting it on my birthday..damn it.......

[Purgstall]

Seen the movie and I really enjoyed. It wasn't perfect by any means, but it was a solid movie. It got slow at times and they kept teasing us on the fights. I did enjoy all of the nods throughout the movie, though it was a shame that they cut out Akira Takarada's cameo though. It's already made about 90 million dollars worldwide. 

[Mirabilis]

 I saw it last Friday, and I have some complaints, things they could of done better. to be fair for the film though, my expectations may have been too high, sense I've been waiting for it since 2006 and all the commercials made it out that Godzilla would be more of a villain like his traditional self. 

 -I guess, I was expecting to see something more along the lines of "Godzilla destroying human civilization, and the military would throw everything they had at him, (like in the original Godzilla) and eventually have to go Nuclear or whatever. Than, the other monsters would show up and they would do their dance", I expected more from the amount of hype the film gave.
 -I didn't like how passive Godzilla was in the film either, I can't really explain this without giving away spoilers, so I'll leave it at that.
 -I also didn't like how fat Godzilla was, he was always massive, but muscular not a big blob.
 -The kid actors were a bit dull and not that great, but they did do a good job on giving them limited screen time.


 To be fair I'll have to praise them on some things.
 -Finally a good explanation on a food source. Again can't explain without spoilers so I'll leave it at that.
 -Camera shots and angles were intense and very spot on, some scenes were beautiful to say the least.
 -End fight was pretty intense and ended good, wish it was a bit longer but it was again a nice introduction of the new era of Godzilla.
 -Really good job on focusing more on the characters rather than Godzilla, this gave it a more plausible and realistic tone to the film.
 -Music was good but at times unnoticeable.

 Overall for the film, Godzilla receives the Kurokaryou rating of 7/10 Good! And is awarded the Black Fire Proof Badge! 

Hope to see a sequel of this, maybe have the King return to topple the False King Zilla...good job America...you finally did it right. 
 

[Salkafar]

I saw it. Was disappointed. It looked pretty great - even though Godzilla really is fat - but... eh.

Finally done it right? The '98 film was better than this one in certain ways.

 

For one thing, in that movie Godzilla actually fought people.

[river_chaos]

While I would have liked to see Godzilla more in this movie, it is much better than the '98 movie in terms of storyline. 

 

'98 story:

-consistent to a point, but skips over important information (ex. when the hell did it have time to lay that many eggs in a football stadium?).

-not true to the original franchise story of Godzilla being descended from a prehistoric monster, which ticked off a lot of long time fans of the King of the Monsters. 

 

2014 story:

-very consistent. 

-While I would have liked to see the King blast a few tanks for the hell of it, the story itself is good with very few plot holes.  It remained true to the original franchise and is being mostly praised by franchise fans. 

[LordSpleach]

Why is everybody saying Godzilla is fat? He has mostly been at that size.

Edited May 23, 2014 by LordSpleach

[Guest Jupiter]

I didn't like Godzilla 98. I was really disappointed.

[LordSpleach]

I actually still like that movie even though it's not a Godzilla movie. Just a Zilla movie.

 

Remember the Americans got confused.

[Salkafar]

I actually still like that movie even though it's not a Godzilla movie. Just a Zilla movie.

Remember the Americans got confused.

That line was from 'Godzilla: Millenium", wasn't it? I loved that. It was classy. Not mocking it, not skipping over it entirely... "The Americans report they were assaulted by Godzilla, but our scientists are not so sure".

 

SPOILERS...

About the new one: what was Serizawa's attitude all about? Godzilla and the Mutos feed on radioactivity. Yes, radioactivity - but in the Cretaceous, or whatever, there were no nuclear bombs. There was no reason to assume these monsters would survive a nuclear explosion (and going by the movie, they would not... they weren't that tough).

What, his father was in Hiroshima? So? That took the nuclear option off the table entirely?

 

What does he think Godzilla's going to do now? It feeds on radioactivity... and the Mutos are gone. Pretty soon he's going to resort to raiding nuclear power plants, because they are more accessible than ICBMs and don't move as fast as nuclear submarines and aircraft carriers. (That would be a pretty good plot for a sequel, though.)

 

Incidentally, what happened with the bomb in the end? It did explode, didn't it? But the military said it was a really powerful bomb. Did it get far enough away to not be a threat anymore?

 

Why did the Mutos have an electromagnetic pulse weapon? Yes, it takes everything that uses electricity off-line... (And by the way... I noticed the power just came back on after the pulse "wore off". But an EMP takes electric power out by overloading systems, causing damage. The damage doesn't magically disappear after the pulse ends.) But what good would that do against predators like Godzilla? They didn't even attempt to use it against him. So why did they even have such organs? And why did they keep using them against humans, which they can't feed on?

 

I think the Japanese will once again feel insulted.

Edited May 23, 2014 by Salkafar

[*PrimalNemesis]

Most of the movie did not make a lot of sense...>.>

[Purgstall]

I saw it. Was disappointed. It looked pretty great - even though Godzilla really is fat - but... eh.

Finally done it right? The '98 film was better than this one in certain ways.

For one thing, in that movie Godzilla actually fought people.

Heisei Godzilla was fat, GMK Godzilla has a beergut. Godzilla's been fat before, this isn't something new. And GINO ran away from helicopters, plus he got killed by basic military weapons...something that ALL of the Toho Godzillas and LPG waded through. Yeah, there's a good reason why GINO is generally considered the black sheep of the franchise. >.>

I actually still like that movie even though it's not a Godzilla movie. Just a Zilla movie.

Remember the Americans got confused.

That line was from 'Godzilla: Millenium", wasn't it? I loved that. It was classy. Not mocking it, not skipping over it entirely... "The Americans report they were assaulted by Godzilla, but our scientists are not so sure".

SPOILERS...

About the new one: what was Serizawa's attitude all about? Godzilla and the Mutos feed on radioactivity. Yes, radioactivity - but in the Cretaceous, or whatever, there were no nuclear bombs. There was no reason to assume these monsters would survive a nuclear explosion (and going by the movie, they would not... they weren't that tough).

What, his father was in Hiroshima? So? That took the nuclear option off the table entirely?

What does he think Godzilla's going to do now? It feeds on radioactivity... and the Mutos are gone. Pretty soon he's going to resort to raiding nuclear power plants, because they are more accessible than ICBMs and don't move as fast as nuclear submarines and aircraft carriers. (That would be a pretty good plot for a sequel, though.)

Incidentally, what happened with the bomb in the end? It did explode, didn't it? But the military said it was a really powerful bomb. Did it get far enough away to not be a threat anymore?

Why did the Mutos have an electromagnetic pulse weapon? Yes, it takes everything that uses electricity off-line... (And by the way... I noticed the power just came back on after the pulse "wore off". But an EMP takes electric power out by overloading systems, causing damage. The damage doesn't magically disappear after the pulse ends.) But what good would that do against predators like Godzilla? They didn't even attempt to use it against him. So why did they even have such organs? And why did they keep using them against humans, which they can't feed on?

I think the Japanese will once again feel insulted.

It was GMK that made the GINO reference. Fun Fact: Ken Watanabe's wife was in GMK.

They mentioned in the movie that back in prehistoric times there was a lot of natural radiation and that Godzilla and the Mutos devour it and when resources were low they went into hibernation underground, deep ocean, etc. Plus, they mentioned in the movie that they tried to kill Godzilla in the past with nukes and failed. They were hoping that the one that they used at the end of the movie, which was stronger than the ones they used back in the 40s, 50s, etc. would actually be able to kill him this time around.

As for Godzilla, he'd probably just go back to dormancy until something else shows up just like he has in previous movies.

As for the bomb, kinda. It has a bit of TDKR syndrome. The bomb itself exploded from a safe distance, but the winds would've carried the fallout and infect stuff with radiation. Basically it was just waved off as, "It's just a movie, relax and don't take everything so seriously".

The head honchos at Toho saw the film and loved it and I've been talking about it with my friends in Japan and they're pretty interested in seeing it. Besides, most of negative remarks about Godzilla like him being fat was coming from 2chan, which is a place that I wouldn't take too seriously. Especially since they seem to forget that Godzilla was fat in the Toho films as well. :/

On the MUTOs having EMP, while I am annoyed that the writer/director don't know drenn about EMP other than it shuts down electronics, I don't really care as to WHY they have the ability itself. It's not like giant monsters haven't had random ass abilities before. Don't overthink things. Make up a reason if it'll make you feel better.

Besides, it's a movie AND a monster movie at that, don't take things TOO seriously. Just sit back and enjoy it. I enjoyed the movie, it has its problems (ATJ's blah acting, Watanabe being underused, etc.)but certainly better than the past few Godzilla movies. Some of these issues that people have against the movie just feels like nitpicking more than anything. :/

Edited May 25, 2014 by Purgstall

[Mirabilis]

 
 Yeah, I stand by my comments, the Americans did get this right. It felt like a tradition Godzilla movie, but darker in tone, and not aimed for kids as others from Toho have been. I don't know why everyone seems to think Godzilla was always fat...I've never seen or thought of him as being fat, but more so muscular for his size. I don't really ever remember seeing him fat. 

[Guest Jupiter]

I don't think I'll be able to watch it until it comes to dvd.

[odin]

I liked it a lot BUT it also disappointed me, it could have been a lot more than it was, it was SOOOOOOOOOOOO close on being one of the best Godzilla films ever but it did exactly what i feared it was going to do that other nostalgia driven movies have done and that is focus the story on the side characters instead of the movies main character Godzilla, I heard that the director wanted to go the jaws route and show as little of the main monster (in this case Godzilla) as possible so that when he actually appear the suspense of the reveal would be worth the wait, only there are several problems with using that technique, 1) the characters on this film are bland and not interesting enough to carry the movie without the main attraction for 1 hour, 2) you get to see a lot more of the bad monsters than you get to see the big G himself and 3) when you get to see Godzilla it is only for a little in a few parts in between the movie as teases until the very end of the movie.

I can't really recommend this movie to anybody starting out despite knowing a lot of my friends and family who actually liked the movie a lot which makes sometimes question myself if I have grown too picky over the time. XD anyways it was a good movie just not a great one and if they had shown a lot more of Godzilla and cut away a lot of unnecessary parts it would have been a great film.

Edited June 7, 2014 by odin

[Purgstall]

 

I don't think I'll be able to watch it until it comes to dvd.

 

Eh, don't get down about it. I mean, the movie is already floating around the internet, if you're that desperate to see the movie then there's that. Plus, we're suppose to be getting an extended cut of the movie when it comes out on DVD/Blu Ray so yay more footage! 

 

 

I liked it a lot BUT it also disappointed me, it could have been a lot more than it was, it was SOOOOOOOOOOOO close on being one of the best Godzilla films ever but it did exactly what i feared it was going to do that other nostalgia driven movies have done and that is focus the story on the side characters instead of the movies main character Godzilla, I heard that the director wanted to go the jaws route and show as little of the main monster (in this case Godzilla) as possible so that when he actually appear the suspense of the reveal would be worth the wait, only there are several problems with using that technique, 1) the characters on this film are bland and not interesting enough to carry the movie without the main attraction for 1 hour, 2) you get to see a lot more of the bad monsters than you get to see the big G himself and 3) when you get to see Godzilla it is only for a little in a few parts in between the movie as teases until the very end of the movie.

I can't really recommend this movie to anybody starting out despite knowing a lot of my friends and family who actually liked the movie a lot which makes sometimes question myself if I have grown too picky over the time. XD anyways it was a good movie just not a great one and if they had shown a lot more of Godzilla and cut away a lot of unnecessary parts it would have been a great film.

There's plenty of Godzilla movies where Godzilla ISN'T the main character and just gets dragged into the situation or is just a plot device. 

 

1. I agree, the characters were pretty boring and uninteresting. Watanabe would've been great if they gave his character more stuff to do.

2. That's not necessarily a bad thing though. The MUTOs actually have personality and a bit of development like a lot of the Toho monsters. 

3. Part of the problem in taking the Jaws approach, IMO, is that when Spielberg and co did it, they had to do that approach more out of necessity than anything. Plus, even though we didn't see the shark that much, we could still feel it's presence throughout the film, same goes with Godzilla in the original 1954 film.  The 2014 Godzilla film failed in that aspect, IMO. I didn't mind the amount of screen time Gdzilla had, I just wish they had done a better job utilizing that time. 

[Guest Sage Vale the pilgrim]

good movie

[godgun21]

The final one was a very recent observation. Everyone and their mum has pointed out that Destoroyah looks like the devil....well theres a reason for that.




Destoroyah's design was influenced by an actual demonic character, Go Nagai's Devilman. Their head crests are almost identical in design and the overall demonic tone the kaiju gives off likely in part comes form the character. 

[Shin Mefilas]

On ‎15‎/‎01‎/‎2018 at 10:16 PM, godgun21 said:

The final one was a very recent observation. Everyone and their mum has pointed out that Destoroyah looks like the devil....well theres a reason for that.




Destoroyah's design was influenced by an actual demonic character, Go Nagai's Devilman. Their head crests are almost identical in design and the overall demonic tone the kaiju gives off likely in part comes form the character. 

Nice to know someone read's my posts over at Toho Kingdom.