Bio-Booster Armor Guyver

[gelionlegends]

thanks that is useful but i think i made a mistake when typing the question up sorry.

what i meant was a dormant unit not activated like in the manga or anime when they are found either by sho or chronos how big are they and heavy before taking a host the dormant unit. thats what i meant sorry as when i read over the question again i realized that i had put it in wrong but what you have put up for that is useful.

then is there any difference between the standard dormant units and those in the warrior guyver universe as those were meant for war unlike the standard units.

it's just something i wondered about when looking at the manga and anime that there really isn't anything to say how big and heavy but they aren't to heavy as sho was able to life it and it wasn't to bulky.

i even checked the data files in the WG side and it didn't give anything on the weight and size/dimensions of the dormant unit.

to the mega smasher is like a kinetic like weapon and the flayer isn't though it's name does give you the idea what it does.

though an idea if the creators were making new guyver units then if they gotten a hold of a zxtole with it's kinetic armour and applied that to a unit, would that make the unit durability even greater than it was before, this is a standard unit.

[gelionlegends]

well something else though i am not really sure about this but what are the reflex rates of a guyver zoanoid as i looked trying to compare that with a gigantic as it said the strength was the same,and besides the max stats for most of its abilities for the G-zoanoid being on the same level of the gigantic but not all.

but then i think that it is dealing with the power level of the host being so high reflecting on the boosted form, but like i said there is nothing to say what the g-zoanoids reflexes are at?

[Juggernought]

Might want to proof read some of your posting, even in your question the sentence was a bit jumbled up. But depending from what sources and pictures i have seen, the size do tend to vary although all stories state that the dormant units are quite easy to be lifted which could indicate their weight ranges up to maybe a few light pounds. As for the difference between a standard and a warrior unit, if you look in the creator datafiles it shows a picture of the Solom type 1 warrior unit as well as a dormant unit. The only difference i notice is the color and warrior units would have a pyramid shaped control medal instead of a circular one. I can only guess that the later warrior unit models had a blue color scheme in their dormant forms.

Edit: As for reflexes the Guyver Zoanoid would have around 10-80 times than normal with a higher maneuverability since he doesn't have a bulky frame to contend with.

[OnyxPhoenix]

Also, fellas (Juggs and gelionlegends), don't forget that what we currently have listed for the abilities of the characters in the DF's, may just change quite a bit when XT and the gang show us the changes done to the characters in Chronicles. We hopefully will soon see exactly what the mods & writers have done.

[*zeo]

Well the original fiction will still go on with the original data files, the changes and updating will just be for the Chronicle version.

Unfortunately there is not much in the Manga to give much to estimate Guyver speed aside from some guess estimate of some key scenes and given speeds of certain zoanoids.

Reflex speed is also subjective, for example no one is as fast as they could be 100% of the time. But Chronicles will have a refined estimation according

to increased evidence provided in more recent translations.

Anyway the dormant unit weight has never been given but since even three of them have been carried at one time with no apparent trouble we can only assume they are pretty light.

Even all metal weights of those sizes don't weigh more than 25 pounds, though neither are these units weightless and have been compared to land mines.

So I would say it safe to say a dormant unit weighs in and around 5 pounds, heavy enough to heft but not heavy enough to be trouble lifting on the first try.

This is probably due to the fact that except for the casing, CM, and gravity control orb on the bottom that most of the mass of the dormant unit is just the Guyver organism, which is fully organic and thus not that dense.

[Aranor]

Not to mention we do not know if the gravity control orb assists in the inactive units transportation. If the Self Defense AI is smart enough to observe its surrounding area and act on threatening actions, perhaps it is intelligent to know when it is being transported. Speculation of course but we don't know...to the best of my knowledge.

[*zeo]

Doubtful, the purpose of the dormant state is to preserve the organism in an inactive state and so for the most part there would be little to no energy activity. The unit is basically in stasis!

Unit activation is even carried out by pressing a depression switch on the Control Medal side of the unit on the bottom.

If it was aware of its surroundings then it wouldn't need such a switch.

[gelionlegends]

thats a thought really on the switch, does someone have to press it or just touch it. that and what like is it organic or inorganic as it would have been a problem if something touched it and was inorganic and it activated.

so it must has a sensor that can tell what touched the medal fits the parameters for it to bio-boost if not it wont.

as it could very well get activated by some animal and you would have a bio-boosted dog, cat or some animal that goes chasing cats or cars and ends up ripping them up not something i would want my dog coming back dragging a car or a truck that its killed.

with the sensor idea it could also explain how the damaged unit-G 2 activated when lisker got to close it sensed that the person was suitable and merged with him, lets say it took longer to come on line or it was coming and going that was why it didn't take one of the zoanoids that collected it.

[Aranor]

Good point.

Question on the Exceed form. Do you think perhaps the control medal we are seeing (Thought similar to the gigantics) is actually the navigational sphere regenerated? I hear it mentioned basically the unit resembles the size of the ship, or somewhat anyway. I'm thinking, just as the unit is stored in the boost dimension/hyperspace, perhaps the navigational spheres have eben repairing themselves and altering the former design from a space faring ship to what its new control system requires. aka human/unit hybrid Guyver. So rather than show actualy growing to the size, though that is apparently what he did, perhaps it was the large form emitting from boost offering the illusion of him growing.

Just a thought.

[*zeo]

Nope, it's just the Gigantic grown really big by siphoning continuously energy from the Boost Dimension.

And no on the Dormant Unit, it definitely has to be physically depressed, you even hear a click!

[gelionlegends]

but it would have to be live like organic tissue like i said about a animal finding it or stepping on would activate it, so unless it then scans the dna or something that touched the medal or switch and then says that it fits some parameters of such before the merging process happens.

with the damage of unit-g2 on the medal would likely cause it to flux from active to dormant as well as there being anything in the way between the target host and itself. which would explain why it didn't try and merge with anyone else like one of the soldiers that picked it up and placed it in the case, because of this when lisker was close enough when it was later opened just happened for it to activate.

though with a lot of talk about wither a unit-g can merge with a zoanoid this could play into that as a lot of the people that handled the unit were more often than not a zoanoid barring a few, this could also be why it merged with lisker as he was still human, though it could be because of the damaged state it was in?

though here is a question that on boosting a zoanoid what would have happened if an enzyne had gotten a unit, the blood should have either started to destroy the booster organism or ignored it

then it either gets boosted making it even more dangerous and flexible in use than before or it just stays the same nothing different about it like balcus had made it.

[*zeo]

It's a depression switch, you can't step on it!

And the units are suppose to be stored in the Relics, not on the ground where everyone can kick it.

G2 was the exception because the Unit was damaged, the seal was no longer intact and thus it was only a matter of time before it auto activated.

Risker mainly got it, in the Manga, because he was within its line of trajectory when it burst out of the containment shell. It even landed lopsided, unlike how it did with Sho who got it right in the face.

On the Enzyme, 3 things...

1) The Unit assimulates and adapts to the host, so the blood would be countered.

2) The Enzyme Acid was made to dissolve the Guyver armor, not really the interior. So only a problem if bleeding.

3) The Enzyme Acid is actually a natural occuring acid used by the Guyver Organism. Chronos discovered it while studying G2, and simply made Enzyme to produce large quantities of that enzyme. Thus the name! So all the Unit has to do is regulate the enzyme to keep it in check.

[Spartan Warlord]

hmmm a guyver enzyme...thats one scared thought even if it where to have a low power level just the simple fact its a guyver enzyme could make it one of the most dangerous guyvers on the planet...

[WarriorZoalord]

hmmm a guyver enzyme...thats one scared thought even if it where to have a low power level just the simple fact its a guyver enzyme could make it one of the most dangerous guyvers on the planet...

it would probably be about as strong, if not stronger than guyver zoanoid from the live actions, yet more deadly, especially if its immune to its own acid, also who knows how the bio-boosting effects could enhance the enzymes, for all we know it could alter the acid to be effective against more than just guyvers.

[gelionlegends]

bio-boosting effects could enhance the enzymes, for all we know it could alter the acid to be effective against more than just guyvers

thats true it could very well be deadly to either all organic matter other than itself or all types of matter, as the second version can spit the enzyne the boosted enzyne could do the same or have that ability and a spray as well.

with the enzyne able to put the liquid through its claws and fangs i would think that the vibrational swords could well do that or instead of being vibrational use the liquid to cut into the target.

though it would be nice if someone did there impression on what the three types of enzyne would look like bio-boosted.

now that would look cool though the promblem i see with enzyne 3 is that its all instinct and now human thought at all making it deadly to everything as the guyver blocks zoalord telepathic control.

[Aranor]

Ok Zeo, why does the guyver need oxygen? (Other than keeping it on earth for the benfit of the series and giving it a weakness)

The unit supplies the energy for the host to use and draws from the host using that energy. Oxygen is used to burn the fats and proteins to create heat energy for the body to use. So, if the unit supplies the energy, why would it need the oxygen? (Tubes stretching from neck to upper chest)

And I know most of the body uses oxygen but mostly it is used the same wherever it goes.

[Juggernought]

Hm, i'd say its to because of its human side, since it is a hybrid of a host that needs oxygen to live....the unit makes it more efficient in this need.

[*zeo]

Yes, the Guyver changes a lot but some things are kept the same and cellular activity is still chemically based.

Also it is more energy efficient to use oxygen than relying on the energy siphon. Giving the Unit more power to use for the weapons, etc than keeping the host alive.

However this is not to say the Unit doesn't greatly reduce the need for oxygen, for example simply breathing water like a fish would not gain you enough oxygen to stay conscious.

Scientists have already calculated that if a human were genetically engineered to have gills that they would barely draw enough oxygen to keep them alive in a coma like state.

Yet the Guyver can breath underwater, and has a boosted metabolism to boot that would burn oxygen like no tomorrow.

So the Guyver must make the host metabolism super efficient to survive on so little air and still be combat ready.

Also we have no idea how long the Guyver can hold its breath, or whether it really needs air or simply uses air since it is more efficient.

For example in our own bodies we have the capacity to operate without oxygen, using alternative chemical system called Anaerobic Metabolism - Energy Without Oxygen. We can operate for a limited period of time but the cost is reduced energy level and increased production of toxic waste byproducts.

So the Guyver may simply use oxygen to help keep the metabolism at peak efficiency.

We don't really know whether the Guyver actually needs to breath or what would happen to the host if deprived of oxygen for extended periods of time.

Nothing has ever been officially stated on the matter, other than a mention that the Gigantic may have an air supply thanks persumably to the cocoon, but aside from the metabolic efficiency, everything else is speculation.