Frost Posted September 18, 2007 Posted September 18, 2007 If Hulk went one on one with Doomsday who would be the winner? and why? Quote
Aranor Posted September 18, 2007 Posted September 18, 2007 First thoughts are where is this fight taking place? If it is somewhere in the proximity of the yellow sun. Doomsday hands down. If it is elsewhere Hulk might have a chance. Here's why I think so. Read how Doomsday was created on the DC datafiles pages. Hulk needs to get pissed to grow stronger. Doomsday is pissed off incarnate. While superman was a simple entity enhanced by the yellow sun Doomsday was a weapon of Kryptonian life that was enhanced by the yellow sun. It was simply the amount of time Kal-el spent in the yellow sun growing up that allowed him to last so long against Doomsday. While hulk is extremely tough, his flesh is not invulnerable. If Doomsday could penetrate Superman's flesh with his claws he could tear through the Hulks. And while the Hulk can achieve infinite strength that we know of. He has to reach that point. Doomsday already has the near unlimited strength Supermans has and will only grow stronger the more time he spends under the yellow sun. If Doomsday were to never have reached the yellow sun and Hulk encountered him in another solar system then I think he might have a chance. However I do not know how strong Doomsday is without the yellow sun. The means by which he was created and recreated is pretty messed up. Quote
Frost Posted September 18, 2007 Author Posted September 18, 2007 Doomsday is not dependent on the yellow sun for his strength.. he can store any form of light if need be for a millineum as in words of Bertron.. besides before he met Superman he was waging war across numerous galaxies so Sun or no Sun it dont mean any difference to him as long as there is light be they of the stars. Quote
Aranor Posted September 18, 2007 Posted September 18, 2007 My bad. It does state he can store solar radiation like supermans body. So, either way Doomsday hands down. Quote
Juggernought Posted September 18, 2007 Posted September 18, 2007 Thats a tough one. My bet would be on the Hulk. Doomsday's main objective now is the extermination of all life as he sees everything as his enemy. But his adaptability is not instantaneous, it is a gradual process and a time consuming one as you can see the length of time between fights with Superman. So i'd it would be a very good fight and Hulk would only get stronger and madder as it progressed to the point where Doomsday is beaten. When he comes back stronger from a period of hiatus the fight would continue anew, albeit more intensely but in the end the Hulk would win once more. I say put them on an uninhabited planet and let them duke it out for eternity. Quote
Aranor Posted September 18, 2007 Posted September 18, 2007 The hulk has to reach that point first. From the simple state of "Hulk Angry. Hulk hate being angry. Hulk smash things. Hulk no feel better! Hulk smash more things!" To a state in which he could take on one of the strongest entities in the known universe will take some time. Granted Hulk has been reported to have held up a mountain but superman is no wimp. And Doomsday is supposedly stronger than superman with greater stamina. The downsides to Doomsday is that he can not fly and is slower in a heavier medium such as water. Hulk possesses these same limitations. And don't foget, Doomsday has evolved. Many many many many many many times. And this was before the Kryptonian race evolved to their advances state and blew up their world. So doomsday has the advantage of having evolved throughout aeons. While Hulk grows stronger with more rage I don't think his body grow more rigid. His defensively thick skin is only so thick. The only advatage I can see the hulk having is by breaking Doomsdays external bones forcing him to slow down momentarily. Also, Hulk would be fighting something that moves as fast as superman can. Supermans speed is on par with Flash. Or pretty close anyway. That strength combined with that speed will leave Hulk pummelled into something resembling a ninja turtle shell. Quote
Juggernought Posted September 19, 2007 Posted September 19, 2007 And yet, with all those "evolutions/adaptations" in the end he has been defeated. The hulk has massive regenerative properties that work and only speed up with his anger. Realize that after taking a few devastating blows from Doomsday i don't think hulk is going to go through several stages of pissed off. He's going to go from mad to blowing his top at being even hit that hard. When he gets stronger all his stats increase. He may not get bigger physically...yet but i'd bet bone and muscle density would vastly increase etc etc Granted it would be a good fight, but even Doomsday has a limit to his power as well. Quote
Aranor Posted September 19, 2007 Posted September 19, 2007 They both have vast regenerative abilities. Doomsday I do not know the speed of but I know the Hulk puts wolverine to shame. It was shown Hulk healed so fast his fingeres were enclosed within the wound and he had to rip them out. Yes, Doomsday was defeated. But it took smarts to wear him down. And yet, he will recover. The time it takes for him to recover is dependent on the amount of damage done. Supermans fist only damaged bone and flesh. None of his body was blown apart or anything of the sort. Thus recovery should have been a short time. Being encased slowed this down but he was sent to the end of time to be sure he was no longer a threat to anything. We do not know the extend to which the Hulk can recover. If his head is smashed in that might be it for him. Or his body could be able to recover from a single cell. We don't know. Thor can keep Hulk at bay normally, even with his belt doubling his strength that is somewhere around 200 tons. Superman if beyond that. Doomsday tired out and beat Superman in his own environment. Hulk is great, no doubt, but Thor has broken his bones, and Doomsday hits harder than Thor. The last hit between the two of them was enough to blow the windows out of the nearby windows. Not sure how far away. And lets face it, the Hulk does not exactly grow smarter as he gets madder. Quote
McAvoy Posted September 19, 2007 Posted September 19, 2007 Let's just say that a extended fight will get Hulk angry enough to fight toe to toe with Superman. Hulk is considered to be stronger than Superman in this respect. But it will take time. However, the Hulk's regeneration is faster than Doomsday, but Doomsday's own regenerative abilities is not slow either. Superman broke one of Doomsday's 'knee bones' and it regrew it later. Quote
Frost Posted September 19, 2007 Author Posted September 19, 2007 Doomsday is slighter fastr than Flash and Superman and he has proved it..Sure the Hulk get angry with passage of time which in time leads to him getting stronger but Doomsday has a constant rage going on and the longer the fight the more he happy he gets.Sure Hulk could break his bones but since they were broken by Superman i am sure they have gotton stronger and i am sure his claws will easily puncture Hulks skin. Doomsday regenerates fast to, say if you cut him he will heal but he will not bleed as most of his body is solid and contains minimal fluids. The only time Doomsday takes to heal is when he is "killed" as his body is undergoing changes to ensure he can not be killed the same way again. Quote
*zeo Posted September 19, 2007 Posted September 19, 2007 Not quite, initially Doomsday regenerated upon death but in the rematch with Superman he showed he adapted with him not only regenerating right in battle but he could also extend some of his exo-bones like spears to counter Superman's flight power. He however is not faster than the Flash, it was just surprise that something so big could move so fast. However Doomsday is no longer so unstoppable as he once was, nor a complete monster since acquiring full intelligence. Though I don't know whether he has chosen to be good or evil. Last I heard he was still experimenting which suited him best. And in one alternate time line he even became a hero wearing the Superman symbol to honor his memory. Quote
Frost Posted September 19, 2007 Author Posted September 19, 2007 Yes he has acquired intelligence still i think he can defeat hulk.. Quote
Matt Bellamy Posted September 20, 2007 Posted September 20, 2007 It all depends which Hulk and Doomsday you are refering to? Considering I know only of the classic Doomsday... Savage Hulk - Would be a good fight. Especially if Hulk was pissed off from the get go ( ver likely). This one is a toss up. Banner Hulk - Still big and green, but with a brain. Doomsday gets the win here. "World War" Hulk - He's now a pure warrior, and his rage is more focused, giving him a lot more power. Not to mention a warriors mind. I'd give this one to Hulk. "Hulkamania" Hulk-ster - YOU BETTER BELIEVE IT BROTHER! CAUSE HULKAMANIA IS GOING TO RUN WILD ALL OVER YOU!... yeah... Doomsday. Quote
Juggernought Posted September 22, 2007 Posted September 22, 2007 Well when you kill the guy's queen and son with a big ass bomb you'd think his rage would be focused on those responsible.....wonder what his offspring would be like. Quote
guyverfanatic Posted September 22, 2007 Posted September 22, 2007 Well when you kill the guy's queen and son with a big ass bomb you'd think his rage would be focused on those responsible.....wonder what his offspring would be like. They would be some pretty badass. Skin would be tough as hell tough too, probably tougher than Hulk maybe... Quote
Frost Posted September 22, 2007 Author Posted September 22, 2007 Err whose kids are we talking about by the way? Quote
guyverfanatic Posted September 23, 2007 Posted September 23, 2007 Err whose kids are we talking about by the way? The one Hulk would have had with Caiera(SP?) during the World War Hulk storyline... Quote
Frost Posted September 24, 2007 Author Posted September 24, 2007 hmmm that is interesting.. how can Hulk have kids? i mean isnt he too "Big" to have kids? i hope this Caiera is woman enuff.. You know Doomsday also went toe to toe with a Guardian of the Green Lantern Corps, Both of them died and he even has killed a energy being that resembled the Silver Surfer.. do you guys still think he could kill Doomsday and live to tell the tale? Quote
guyverfanatic Posted September 24, 2007 Posted September 24, 2007 hmmm that is interesting.. how can Hulk have kids? i mean isnt he too "Big" to have kids? i hope this Caiera is woman enuff.. Caiera was pretty damn strong. She could lift up to 1 ton and had pretty thick skin too. Quote
Juggernought Posted September 24, 2007 Posted September 24, 2007 That being was called The Radiant, who was specifically engineered to kill Doomsday, which he succeeded in doing but the Calatan people made the mistake of not destroying the body so he came back to destroy the Radiant. I think the Silver Surfer can take on Doomsday as he has yet to adapt to cosmic energy. Quote
Frost Posted September 24, 2007 Author Posted September 24, 2007 Hmmm well sort of energy was the Radiant and the Green Lantern Corps Guardians possess? he has had a dose of those so i guess anything the Surfer throws at him wont take much long for him to adapt to.. also he was burned to the bone by Imperix too so i guess that must count for something.. Quote
Juggernought Posted September 24, 2007 Posted September 24, 2007 Not too sure about the green lanterns, but their power does rely on the imagination, and will power of the ring's user to overcome obstacles. That will is manifested in a beam like energy that can take any form tool or weapon. Said to be considered the most powerful weapon as it is limited ONLY to willpower. As for the Radiant, must be some kind of energy purely for great offensive and mass destruction purposes (Doomsday). Quote
nidhogg Posted September 28, 2007 Posted September 28, 2007 I have to go with Hulk. He fought with Galactus and nearly won, the reason he didn't, was because he was fighting Galactus, a nearly godlike being. to top that off the Hulk as he gets madder he gets stronger, tougher, and has regeneration abilities. Doomsday on the other hand only gets what he starts the fight with. Quote
Aranor Posted September 29, 2007 Posted September 29, 2007 Ok, here's a thought. Let us say the Hulk manages to kill Doomsday. He obviously does not have the capability to spread every Doomsday atom into different portions of the universe so Doomsday will lie there dead. The damage done to the body might be less than what has been done many many many many many times before. So recovery would not take long. the foe which defeated him seemed to grow stronger as aggression increases so Doomsday's body grows the means to do this as well. So now we have a Doomsday that increases in strength as it grows madder. Along with everything else about him. No one would stand a chance. Quote
Juggernought Posted September 29, 2007 Posted September 29, 2007 No, Doomsday would only evolve to the point where that level of strength the Hulk used to kill him would now be ineffective, Hulk would have to get madder and achieve even greater power to defeat him again. Doomsday's evolution has no sentience so it cannot fully understand what it is dealing with, Doomsday himself has no control over it. His physiology is akin to your immune system adapting and making you immune to any sickness or disease you may get infected with, but only a a highly evolved and super rate. Quote
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