Guyver: The Miracle Cure?

[Guyver0]

This popped in my head one day and it's been nagging me ever sense.

I was wondering if the Unit ever bonded with someone who had a disease such as cancer, AIDS, leukemia, etc. Would the unit possibly remove it because the disease is attacking it's host and/or doing more bad than good.

I know it may sound weird but like I said at the start its been bothering me. Anyways I'll leave you all to it.

[Spartan Warlord]

to put it simply yes...the Unit bring the host to its full potenial and rids it of any illnesses...consider the Black Silence Silver not even that W'Kar Element could fully cure it...all it took was a Unit to completely remove the disease which is so much more advanced than cancer aids ect...so a Unit is like a Super cure for any disease...

[Juggernought]

Yup, i agree...cancer or aids is a foreign deadly virus to the human body, unit recognizes it as a threat and effectively elminiates, consider a unit akin to your immune system amped up to 100x. However this fact (i think)may be also the reason female guyvers can't have children if they constantly activate the unit, it would consider the child a parasite and try to get rid of it..Cassandra was the only case in which a unit was created for it..i think Ira lost the baby because she was either attacked or had to activate her unit..i'm unsure on the fact so dont quote me.

[Shenzon]

Its been a long time since I've read it myself Juggernought, but I think Ira was pregnant and got attack and had her groin area and down completely destroyed when she lost hers. The real question to me is, why wouldn't the Guyver regenerate the baby or if that's even possible. I've always wondered about Female Guyvers getting pregnant also. I assumed that either it would see the baby as a disease and eliminate it, or pick up from the females DNA that it is normal for its hosts to go through this, and protect the baby as well. If it is the latter, then could the Guyver regenerate the unborn child if it was destroyed as it would the female hosts? And if so, what abilities would the child be born with? Super-immune systems, sharper mind, or any mutations at all?

[Spartan Warlord]

well i suppose from the Units point of view if the female host got pregnant then it would be more vunerable to attack and would find it much harder to defend itself threw fear for the child...also you could compare sperm to an STI...it invades the vagina and kinda infects the egg as to create a child so the Unit may see it as an infection and not allow it...but then do the female guyver stil have periods? if so then i dont see why they shouldnt beable to get pregnant....

[McAvoy]

I wouldn't use GWotG as an example. Just because of the fact that Allen himself is a fan of the Guyver and not the creator of it.

I would say yes. Something like cancer however is a different story since cancer is not a virus like HIV is, but something that came from the body itself.

[*zeo]

Yes, the unit doesn't really distinguish from what is the host and what is not.

The human body is full of other organisms, some are parasitic while others are symbiotic and others just bacteria like those that help us digest food. Each with their own DNA but in order for the host to function as normal and not be altered these organisms must remain in the host.

Remember, prior to bonding to a human host the Unit has no idea how a human is put together or how we work.

The Unit does prevent anything new though so from the point of bonding on the host has a super immune system thanks to the Unit but anything prior to bonding would not necessarily be removed.

For example we know for a fact the unit does not remove scars or even cloths from the host.

Not to mention the problem with diseases like HIV is because the body does not recognize it as foreign, in fact it infects the white blood cells to produce more of itself and that causes the immune system to attack itself which then renders the victim without an immune system and thus people die from all the diseases we are normally immune against.

HIV itself doesn't kill us, AIDS is just us being attacked by everything that we are normally immune against.

So there is no guaruntee that the Unit would remove such an infection, but the Unit will prevent it getting worse and allow the host to live with it.

Really, the idea that the Unit is a cure all is pure speculation.

[McAvoy]

Well it also depends on how you view the unit as well. If youi view the unit as a road to immortality then yes it's a cure all after bonding. If not then, the all the unit is a just a glorified armor suit and you still need to see your doctor and dentist.

[Aranor]

Zeo, how about from this perspective. We know the unit basically brings the host back to the state of first bonding. Clothes, scars etc are not damaging the host. HIV though is degrading the health of the host. Each time the host summons the unit repair is needed. Do you think the unit would then distinguish this as something damaging to the host and remove it? Just another way of looking at it.

[McAvoy]

I take it when you say first bonding, meaning when he activates the unit? Not the bonding process in the very beginnning.

[Aranor]

Correct. Basically, each time the unit is summoned I would guess, having to repair the host to its recorded form it would recognize a problem and remove it.

[*zeo]

It would have to recognize it as a problem first but you have to remember the human host is an alien to the Unit.

Even our own bodies can't realize that HIV is bad, how do you expect the Unit to realize it?

Fact is people can live decades with HIV and show no symptoms, so simply having it in your system doesn't automatically raises any red flags.

Also there is the fact the host is returned to their original state when the unit deactivates. The host isn't permanently enhanced.

So I see it as just a stop gap measure and not a cure unless the person stays bonded for the rest of their life.

Even if the host is made immune to the disease it doesn't mean it will remove the virus from their system so the host could still be a carrier.