What can the Matrix do?

[exscaped_pyscho]

I know the matrix can do virtually anything the user commands it to do. But can it do things like upgrade it self? Adding a HSL to itself would make it alot more powerful after all. I'm just kinda curious as to what the Matrix can really do. We've seen it do alot of really cool things in the fics.

Anyone else care to speculate on what they think the matrix can do? Or What would you have the matrix do if you had one?

[McAvoy]

Pretty much everything the user wills it to do. As long as the user has a clear image or command the Matrix will do it's best to do that. Also, it requires a control medal for maximum efficiency and an energy source.

[exscaped_pyscho]

Could the Matrix build a Guyver unit without anything to start with? Every time we've seen a unit created by the matrix it had a unit to work off of or a relic to assist. I personally think it could because the pyramid control medal of the Eliminator just appeared, the secondary control medals came from the Relic but not the Warrior Control Medal.

[McAvoy]

May or may not. It depends if it can create something organic from something in-organic. Like a tree to the Guyver's bio armor. Thouhg it would be child's play to create one from a sample of another unit.

It has the capabilities to create control medal since it did a total reconstruction and upgrade to Guyver C's control medal into a Warrior class one. That's like replacing your car piece by piece to upgrade it where eventually the whole car is 99% different from the original.

[exscaped_pyscho]

My thoughts exactly. As for changing inorganic matter into organic I don't see why it wouldn't be capable of achieving this. After all the data file for the matrix states it can rearange matter and can convert energy into matter. So why not change one type of matter into another type?

What I'd like to see is Jason using the other Matrix he has to upgrade that Relic he has just sitting around. Maybe into something along the lines of the Clan ships from WG2's universe. Not necessarily as far as size but advanced technoligy would be cool. He could even use it as a base of operations, since he's no longer with the ACTF.

[McAvoy]

It's the same reason why he hasn't upgraded any of the non-Warrior Guyvers into Warrior Guyvers. A) Hasn't occured to him yet. B) He doesn't have the time.

Remember Jason has been back only for less than a week since Fiona's dimension. He needs to a spare Matrix to do the above also which he just got recently from Fiona's dimension.

It would be easy as hell for Jason to start creating Warrior Guyver units and upgrading others to create a truly powerful force that not even Chronos would stand a chance against.

[Juggernought]

Thing is would he want to...in the new W'kar fic Greg stated that there would be another world war using the guyver units if they managed to survive the Grakken onslaught as well as the creator attack. If you have too many warrior units running around the place, with america owning the majority well they could easily take control of everything and enforce it using those units. I don't think jason wants anymore power going to the ACTF/america than necessary.

[Shenzon]

I don't see why the Matrix could just creat a control medal out of thin air, by just manipulating the molecules in the air. The HSL for the Matrix would be a great idea for one, if someone command it to do so.

[*zeo]

It just takes a lot longer to start from scratch and a Control Medal is very advance, the complexity was enough for it to take days to upgrade GC to WGC, so imagine how long it would have taken to do that from scratch!?

Btw, the Matrix already has HSL as well a slew of other energy source options.

What you have to realize though is that having HSL doesn't mean it has infinite power, just unlimited reserves.

Just like the CPM's the Matrix can only draw so much power at a time and the HSL system is specifically limited by the capacity of the host, which the Matrix by itself has none.

But this too is a lot more impressive than you realize, the energy needed to re-arrange matter can easily go into the giga-joules range.

Remember it takes about as much energy, if not more, to create something than destroy it.

[exscaped_pyscho]

That's news to me. I wasn't aware that the regular Matrixes utilized HSLs. If the regular Matrixes use HSLs then what is the difference between the Red version and the Original type? I thought the Red type was more powerful because of the HSL like power sorce that Anubis added, which allows it do 'draw power from higher demensions.' Is this an added power sorce or a different type all together? Maybe the demension the Red Matrix draws power from isn't hyper space at all, that could explain it.

What could a Red Matrix do that a Blue couldn't? Or is it more of a time issue, with the Blue needing more time to build up energy before performing a more straineous task where the Red wouldn't need to? I've been wondering what the main difference between the types are for awhile now. From what I've gathered Abubis gave the Matrix more power but in doing so reduced it's overall capabilities. Which is why Zagam can't travel threw time where Dreadnought can.

As for upgrading the Relic into a War Relic or Clan ship. I know full well Jason hasn't thought of it and hasn't had time. I was speaking more in the future thread of the storyline. Basically I'd like to see the Matrix used more often to perform various tasks. Obviously Jason shouldn't use it to do everything seeing as the story would get kinda boring then, but he could use it to complete various tasks. Maybe have the Matrix build a Warrior Guyver Unit Remover, as a backup, incase anything were to happen to himself and/or the Matrix. Or he could use the Matrix to protect his house from Chronos and the ACTF. Maybe with a fancy energy shield and a teleportation blocking field within the shield.

[McAvoy]

What could a Red Matrix do that a Blue couldn't? Or is it more of a time issue, with the Blue needing more time to build up energy before performing a more straineous task where the Red wouldn't need to? I've been wondering what the main difference between the types are for awhile now. From what I've gathered Abubis gave the Matrix more power but in doing so reduced it's overall capabilities. Which is why Zagam can't travel threw time where Dreadnought can.

You answered your own question. The Blue Matrix is able to do anything the user wants it to do and various tasks as long as it has the energy do so, otherwise it'll take longer. The Red Matrix on the other hand, has what i guess you call a super charger for the Red Matrix. Basically, it won;t give it unlimited energy, but it'll give it rapid boost of energy.

Remember Anubis needed to do something about the Matrix, because if left alone, the Blue Matrix will revert Zagam back to Dreadnought, no matter what he did to the rest of the unit and host. Anubis tinkering around with the Matrix, though gave it some enhanced powers, it reduced or removed others. Anubis, you have to remember while having Creaotr knowledge and the Multiverse to his advantage, the Matrix is still far advanced than anything he has encountered. If given time, he could figure it out.

[W'Kar]

Given time, yes he could. Dreadnought was a rare treat not to be wasted. In time though if Anubis gains ahold of another matrix, it could spell disaster for not only GWOTG, but many dimensions.

[*zeo]

I thought the Red type was more powerful because of the HSL like power sorce that Anubis added

As McAvoy already stated you have essentially answered your own question but to clarify let's correct the fact that Anubis did not add a HSL,

-RED MATRIX: Subject's original Matrix was reformed by lord Anubis, granting it a basic W'Kar based energy draining system that vastly increases the raw power of the Matrix though it has lost some of the abilities that lord Anubis deemed unimportant, such as the ability to time travel.

Anubis just gave it an energy handling system so it could handle more energy, or as has been described "super charger"

Please, remember the limitations of the technology. Even though the matrix may seem like magic tech the Matrix was based on very real principles of science of what is theoretically possible.

For example the rules of thermodynamics and conservation of energy is not violated, as we endeavored to make the fic as believable as possible.

Consequently, we have imposed rules such as that the HSL requires a host to properly regulate the energy flow and even then the flow is limited to the tolerance of the host.

Without a host energy flow has to be kept at a minimum to prevent power overload for the same reason you can't plug anything into an electric grid and not have something to regulate it.

For example if you hooked a light bulb to the full power of the power grid of your local power company you'll just succeed in exploding the bulb, if not burn your house down.

Hyper Space has infinite energy, which is not something to take lightly. This is also why CPM's, which are based on HSL technology, are limited to the 4x power threshold.

For the Red Matrix the energy draining system helps both increase the amount of energy the matrix could store but also increases how much energy could be handled at any one time, which is why the Red Matrix seems more powerful even though it is really a partially crippled Matrix.

[Frost]

Well couldnt Anubis remove Dreadnought's unit? as i am pretty sure he has that ability being a W'kar and all.. once removed he could have made the necessary modificaton however he must have removed the time travel ability on purpose as he would not want anybody to go into the past and destroy him when he was at his weakest..

[W'Kar]

Anubis method of unit removal is more of an overload the unit until the bonds start to break and then rip it off. That kills the host and damages the unit. How he actually does it is by building a device that works like a remover.

Warrior Units are infamous for the difficulty in removal. Not because their superbonded like the W'Kar or anything, but because they were meant to be stuck on there for a good long time and the only remover made was lost. Well, aside from the matrix anyway. So Dreddy's unit is INCREDIBLY hard to remove, just like a W'Kar unit.

Anubis could do it, but the time it would take to figure out not only how to remove WG units does not warrent it. The adaptability of the matrix means that there was a good chance any type of captivity would not hold him long enough, and though Anubis very presence around him disables the matrix he can't stand within the area of him the entire time.

[Frost]

Simply put he can not hold Dreadnought's hand all day long still it would have been fun if they had a few minutes of fight instead of him grabing him and overloading him.. anyways the red matrix is pretty

[W'Kar]

anyways the red matrix is pretty

What can I say, some people are easy to please

[Frost]

All guyvers control medals have AI right? some extremly advanced so standard issue could the Matrix transmit a virus to them? through the organisms on their back or some other way?

[*zeo]

The AI's are pretty much hardwired for most Guyvers, they aren't capable of learning and such.

So any such virus would most likely have to infect the host brain, which we now know the CM accesses to augment its own processing capability. But would have to get past the self correcting nature of the CM which would prevent outside alterations to the host.

Though the more advance CM's may be a different story.

It's like cellphones, before no one could give them a virus but as they got more advance and more computerized they became vulnerable to viruses.

Basically for every advantage there is also generally a disadvantage to counter balance it, but this sort of vulnerability is not something that can be easily taken advantage of.

At the very least it would take time.

[Frost]

Time in what sense? like technology wise or concentrating on the intended victim?

[McAvoy]

To figure it out, pretty much.

[*zeo]

Actually time for it to have an effect.

[Frost]

Well it may take time the first time but once it has figured the technique the Matrix should be able to deploy the virus faster, what say you?

[McAvoy]

Yes. Doing something for the very first time always takes longer than doing it the second or third time.

[*zeo]

Not for the CM, it's self correcting and mostly hard wired, so regardless the virus would have to first infect, then work its way up through the CM processing hierarchy till it effects enough of the CM to seriously effect its functions.

Viruses can only work as fast as they can change something and CM's are not easily changed.

Remember CM's have to be secure enough so host data like memories and DNA are replicated perfectly every single time. There can be no data corruption is a system like that so a virus would have to slowly work its way through all the failsafes before it can really do damage.

You want fast then it would be easier to just fry the CM, but then you would be left with a rogue organism.