Dreadnought vs. Guyver Zoalord

[Shenzon]

What if W'kar teamed up with Dreadnought, what do you think the outcome would be?

[McAvoy]

A greater chance. But remember that the Guyver Zoalord is far more powerful than Atrahasis so, it would be a slim chance.

[*zeo]

Yes, also Shenzon those abilities aren't without their limitations.

The Quantum Reflection ability can allow him to be in two places at the same time but only for a very limited amount of time and if either of him gets damaged then he will still have to deal with that damage when he merges back to one.

Also since that state is very unstable he would not have full access to all his matrix powers in that state until he returned to being just one.

Many of Dreadnought's powers have check and balances. So he can do many things but only to the limits of his power level.

The Matrix lets him bend the rules, not break them.

So Dreadnought may have a better chance against a Guyver Zoalord than he did as just WG but all the abilities in the world won't change the fact that he is nowhere near a Guyver Zoalord's level of power.

[Shenzon]

Yeah, that is true. His abilities do have checks and balances.

[Zoaknight]

well, it depends on how you look at it. The main reason why Jason was able to defeat the Guyver Zoalord was because the Reeve was just so damn full of himself and sure of his own power (he never stopped to think that a being so much weaker than him like Warrior Guyver could somehow find a way to pose a real threat to him, that his unit may possess features that his doesn't, if he had, he would have killed him on the spot instead of toying with him as though he were a plaything). In other words, if Jason had shown up in his supped up,obviously ultra powerful matrix enhanced Dreadnought form, Guyver Zoalord Reeva may have decided to pull out all the stops and kill him right away (recognizing him as a real enemy and not just a minor annoyance to be swatted aside).

[jedi-guyver]

What about Zagam? How do you think he would fare?

[McAvoy]

Far better chance. Remember that Zagam is 60x but he can boost himself to 100x and possibly 200x if he can absorb enough energy presumably from Guyver Zoalord. But since the energy draining is very close range, that'll be very hard for him.

On the other hand it'll be as difficult for Zagam as Zagam taking in Anubis.

[Sully]

Zagam would be dead too is the simple answer in the end. Soon has the Guyver Zoalord realised he actually had a chance of winning he'd unleash everything he had at him.

[exscaped_pyscho]

The biggest draw back to Jason being more powerful when he encountered the Guyver Zoalord Reeve would be, in my opinion, that Reeve wouldn't have played around at all. He could have perseved Dready to be a more singnificant threat and blasted him all over the planet. Then Dready would have to change his name to Deady . God that was one of my cheesest jokes to date.

[largo]

One word... no two unit removal just use the matrix to remove his unit then Reeve is just another zoalord. And lets face it a zoalord has to be at least on Kron's level just to make it out alive against the guy so he could win that way. The only thing is how to get the Guyver Zoalord to stand still long enough for him to remove his unit.

[McAvoy]

Dreadnought is very powerful and doe shave the weapons and abilities to kill the Guyver Zoalord. However the Guyver Zoalord is at least eight times more powerful than Dreadnought. It'll be the difference between Black Nova fighting Guyver 1. Guyver 1 could in theory kill Black Nova, but she'd easily kill him however and whenever she pleases.

BTW, Zoalord Reeve is only 2x, where as pre-Bio Lord upgrade was 4x. Kron at 10x, was only able to stand up to Dreadnought while retreating was by drawing upon his ultimate attack. No Zoalord except for Zeugma, Zarfel and Alkanphel could seriously stand up tp Dreadnought one on one.

[Juggernought]

And speaking on Zarfel...what exactly are those stones of power??

[exscaped_pyscho]

I don't think anyone other then the WG gods knows right now. But if I had to wager a guess, I'd say that the stones are some kind of subprocessor from the clan ship in austraila. They obviously came from the clan ship when it was burning it's way through the atmosphere. The origanal purpose is unknown but I would imagine that they were either something from the clan ship itself or perhaps some kind of new project of Krullnar's prior to his revenge kick. All we know so far is that they can enhance a normal human to levels at least as high as a guyver maybe more, and can make an elite zoalord equal to a master zoalord. Maybe the stones are some kind of missing component for the creation of master zoalords? That would explain why a direct clone of alkanphel was only a proto zoalord instead of a chip off the old pyscho block. Only time will tell, but my guess is that whenever the new fics start coming out that the stones will have a major part in the power struggle.

[McAvoy]

I do not know where the stone cames from, nor is it known if there are more.

But considering it did a 5x increase to Zarfel's zoalord form, Chronos would very much like to get more probably only second to the Matrix. Consider if Alkanphel was enhanced with them, he would be a Guyver Zoalord without the Guyver unit.But that's only if the stones are multipliers not an addition. Otherwise he would be 56x, which is still nothing to sneeze at.