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[McAvoy]

Sorry for the double post but I realized something.

Shendal knows about W'Kar being in the WG universe. It makes send seeing that everyone knows Jarrod died causing W'Kar to become Anubis. But here is Jarrod. She's also aware of WG universe fighting over the Clanship so she knows that the WG Guyvers returned back there.

So I think Jarrod plans on going to the WG universe. Now the question is with what unit? His own Fighter Guyver II unit or maybe even the 6th Reproduction? Seeing that Shendel is using components from the second and third into the ship.

[W'Kar]

And what, might I ask, brought you to this startling conclusion?

[McAvoy]

When Jarrod and Shendal was talking:

Jarrod smiles. “So, it won’t be long now.”

“No.”

Jarrod nods. “I’ve been thinking though, about a name change?”

Shendal looks at him with a curious look. “Why?”

Jarrod’s face contorts a bit. “They all know my brothers name. If I am to go back after we are done, will it not be better if I didn’t have it?”

Shendal thought for a moment, then nodded. “Yes, it would.”

“Any changes in that?”

Shendal shook her head. “No, we still have not found him.”

“And your sure he survived?”

Shendal laughed. “You did, didn’t you? So did everything from that event.”

If it's not W'Kar it can only be only one other person that would be of any worth to Shendal or Jarrod, and that's Dreadnought. I think W'Kar is the better of the two choices since he can theortically be the only that would have any chance of matching Anubis.

[W'Kar]

Observant, you might be right.

What do the rest of you think?

[guyverfanatic]

Considering what happened to Dreadnought in the GWOTG universe, it would make sense if it was W'Kar. He is the only one who can go toe to toe with Anubis.

[jedi-guyver]

Following this line of thought would Jarrod use the last bit of the matrix to pass through the barrier?

[W'Kar]

Considering what happened to Dreadnought in the GWOTG universe, it would make sense if it was W'Kar. He is the only one who can go toe to toe with Anubis.

Potentially go toe to toe, potentially.

[Juggernought]

Here's the thing tho...sometimes the saying "go back" would mean either return to the point in origin or a point in time. Is it possible that shendal wants to use the unit to send jarrod back in time to the moment when anubis is about to be born?

Edit: use the matrix, not unit

[W'Kar]

Another good point.

[McAvoy]

Possibly. It sound plausible. He did mention something about recognizing his name as Greg's brother and needing a new name change. But it wouldn't explain Shendal's response to a question as saying that they should be alive since everyone survived the event. Including him.

Maybe it's not what we think.

[Spartan Warlord]

well at this time unless if Jarrod was to go to get help from Dreddy, W'Kar or both the fact is neither of them wud come seeing as there to busy fighting the Grakkens they'd never leave plus even if they destory'd all of them...if wud leave there Earth wiv out one or both of its most powerful warriors...

not to mention the fact that chronos is stil a threat

[W'Kar]

Time between dimensions is a tricky thing to map.

Let's say if Jarrod left to go to the WG universe. Unless he specifies a time (matrix can do that, TRANS can't) then he could end up anytime really. It's part chance, part luck. Luckily the matrix can assume the user wants to go at a particular time when ordered.

[Spartan Warlord]

damn this is why i hate time/dimension travel to complicated...so really there no telling when he will appear just that he would appear....*rubs head*

[Frost]

Hmmm must be one of the reasons why Anubis removed Zagam's time travelling ability..The matrix is an unpredectible device it may have some tricks left in its bag..

[Juggernought]

Don't think he removed the ability on purpose, while bending the matrix to his will some of its abilities were lost as a side effect to gaining the power it now has.

[McAvoy]

Anubis had trouble with the Blue Matrix. By creating the Red Matrix, all he did was give it a energy draining ability, but by doing that he may have accidently damaged the Matrix itself. Causing it to lose some of it's abilities, most noteably the time travel. Also, it has been suggested that the energy handling capabilities of the Red Matrix may be inferior to the Blue Matrix. But it makes up for it with the brute power vs. general tool aspect.

I think if Anubis didn't alter the Matrix, he would have ended up with a regenerated Dreadnought again. He needed to alter it so he could make Zagam. Whatever he may have done to Jason's human for, could have been reverted back the moment the Blue Matrix repaired itself.

[W'Kar]

Exactly right McAvoy.

The matrix knew what Jason was supposed to be. Anubis turned him into an evolved lycanlord, so the matrix would have just fixed the changes. By altering the Matrix itself beforehand, he could keep Zagam.

[McAvoy]

Which begs the question: could another Blue Matrix fix the changes to the Red Matrix? Considering the Red Matrix isn't exactly up to factory specs anymore...

[W'Kar]

Not likely. The red matrix can overwhelm the matrix with sheer power really. But a couple of matrixes working together and you might have Jason back. Of course the Zagam unit would still be the same

[McAvoy]

Isn't Zagam's unit a direct modification to the Matrix itself? So if the Red Matrix was reverted back to the Blue Matrix, so wouldn't the unit turn back to Dreadnought?

Or then again, I wonder how powerful the unit would be without the Lycanlrod DNA thrown into the mix. I would guess base level same as Dreadnought, but still would have that energy draining to seperately boost the power. So he would have an absolute max of 80x.

[W'Kar]

To be most specific, Zagam's unit is a merging of the Gigantic and the Warrior Unit together. The matrix, yes, was modified. But that's just part of the whole package really. By converting the red matrix (hard as hell) back to the blue you would in fact get a fully working blue matrix, you would still have to consider that the Dreadnought armor doesn't exist anymore, it's a full unit really.

Without the Lycanlord base mix his overall power would drop, as would some of his higher level attacks (as a blue matrix doens't have the needed power to do the things Zagam could do), his unit would practically stay the same. Though he'd probably be back to the same color scheme I'd think.

[McAvoy]

I sort of figured that the Gigantic and Warrior unit were merged together, I just didin't think they would actually boost the overall power. Maybe a more direct and more efficient connection perhaps?

[W'Kar]

Basically, yes. It does increase total power. Not by a huge amount or anything, but it does.

Remember, Greg always thought the Gigantic was 'Cheating', he even joked Dreadnought about it. Who say's Anubis doesn't believe the same

[McAvoy]

Well he did bash on everyone but Black Nova for using some sort of upgrade to each a higher power level.

So you are saying that if Dreadnought's Gigantic was merged with his base unit, he would reach Zagam's level?

[W'Kar]

Nope.

The Lycanlord DNA gives him a boost.

The red matix can pump out alot more than a blue, it just doens't have the same versatility.

Would it increase, yeah. Probably not a huge amount though, I would guess the extra efficiency might get it up to like 30X or so. James could tell you alot better.