McAvoy Posted June 15, 2007 Posted June 15, 2007 I'm a fraid the next time my computer will try to zap me when I log onto the internet. Saying: "Sorry Greg but I am tired of your porn addiction." ...not that I have a porn addiction of anything. Quote
McAvoy Posted June 18, 2007 Posted June 18, 2007 EDIT: Come to think of it, that got me interested in making a datafile. Please do so and post it. Even if it isn't official, it'll still be a hell of a read. You might even get Allen's twisted gears turning more than they already are. I started on it this weekend. But I the more I thought about it, the more I came to realize the best Eliminator was Atraphasis. Quote
Frost Posted July 18, 2007 Posted July 18, 2007 Yes he would most certianly make the best eliminator and not only that he was equivalent to a kavzar rankwise! so imagine an commander Athrasis and an enfocer Athrasis and then they being mass produced to fight the armies of the order! wonder what power level would the Enforcer and commander class would be.. Quote
Takara Posted July 20, 2007 Posted July 20, 2007 Yes he would most certianly make the best eliminator and not only that he was equivalent to a kavzar rankwise! so imagine an commander Athrasis and an enfocer Athrasis and then they being mass produced to fight the armies of the order! wonder what power level would the Enforcer and commander class would be.. To quote from Gears of War: "I don't think I can count that high." Quote
Frost Posted July 26, 2007 Posted July 26, 2007 Ha Ha well if the Matrix fully scanned W'Kar units it will know what it is dealing with and perhaps then it will be able to make a suitable Eliminator.. Quote
Juggernought Posted July 26, 2007 Posted July 26, 2007 Assuming of course, it can make a full scan. It could probably glean enough information to recreate something like that but wouldn't the w'kar element/units block any scanning intrusions? Quote
W'Kar Posted July 26, 2007 Author Posted July 26, 2007 Short of basic stuff, the matrix can't do much to a true W'Kar. Quote
Frost Posted July 27, 2007 Posted July 27, 2007 Hmmm so simply put it is not possible to make an eliminator for W'kar.. Quote
McAvoy Posted July 30, 2007 Posted July 30, 2007 No. I have the perfect True W'Kar Eliminator. Matrix Warrior Guyver Albass/Alkanphal/Alkanphel. Basically a Guyver Master Zoalord. She/He/He would be in the 40,000x range, or ten times more powerful than True W'Kar would be fully healed. Quote
*zeo Posted July 31, 2007 Posted July 31, 2007 Hmmm so simply put it is not possible to make an eliminator for W'kar.. Not impossible, as McAvoy just pointed out, just not something the Matrix could normally do so long as the W'Kar element is a factor. For the Reproduction Units though the Matrix would have no problems, since they don't have W'Kar element merged with their units there is nothing to interfere with the Matrix. It's only the True W'Kar Units, which have been merged with the W'Kar Element that pose a problem for the Matrix since the Matrix is basically not powerful enough to effect the W'Kar Element. So W'Kar is essentially shielded from the Matrix by his W'Kar element. Quote
McAvoy Posted July 31, 2007 Posted July 31, 2007 I was once toying with the idea that what if Shendal had the Matrix create her own Eliminator from the remains of the Temporal and Necro units. But like I said, all it would require is for Matrix to zoaform the host into a higher zoaform like a zoalord or even a hyper zoanoid combined with a combination Temporal/Necro Warrior W'Kar Reproduction. Quote
W'Kar Posted July 31, 2007 Author Posted July 31, 2007 That qualifies more as a badass than a true eliminator. The eliminator is made specifically to kill a certain kind of guyver. Something like that is more of a 'Kill it all' thing. Quote
Juggernought Posted July 31, 2007 Posted July 31, 2007 Something like that is more of a 'Kill it all' thing. We all huntin squirrels and playing with pea shooters and he wants to use a 12 guage...lol Quote
*zeo Posted July 31, 2007 Posted July 31, 2007 That qualifies more as a badass than a true eliminator. The eliminator is made specifically to kill a certain kind of guyver. Something like that is more of a 'Kill it all' thing. Well, if made to go after a particularly powerful being the Eliminator would of course be able to also kill anything of equal or lesser power. The Eliminator was just very efficient at killing WG's, but that didn't mean it couldn't go after others. In fact the WG Eliminator was powerful enough that it took Dreadnought to finally take it out. Even Zeugma had problems with it and she's not even a Guyver. Quote
W'Kar Posted July 31, 2007 Author Posted July 31, 2007 It's a dangerous creature, but the Eliminator that we all know and love is meant to kill Guyvers, not W'Kars. Reproductions are Guyvers with levels of W'Kar tech, but essentially still guyvers. There sheer power can defeat eliminator, but that thing can hurt alot before they could. Besides, Reproductions don't have HSL's. W'Kar himself though, well, though I wouldn't put Eliminator out of the fight I would say that Eliminator would be biting off more than he could chew. Quote
McAvoy Posted July 31, 2007 Posted July 31, 2007 Well there is two or three beings that can take on the Eliminator one on one. Dreadnought, W'Kar and possibly Angel. Quote
Frost Posted August 1, 2007 Posted August 1, 2007 So standard warrior guyvers dont have a chance against Elimanator? like Ulitmus or Zeus? Quote
McAvoy Posted August 1, 2007 Posted August 1, 2007 Those two are not Eliminators and even then no they would not stand a chance. Well maybe they would, but it would be slim. Even then we're not talking about standard Warrior Guyvers, since they are enhanced in some way. Quote
Frost Posted August 1, 2007 Posted August 1, 2007 Yes you are right they are enhanced in some way but not quite like Dreadnought or W'kar as they have the ability to adopt to battle situations wheras the other Warrior guyvers are not so advanced hence the Eliminator will fry them. Quote
Spartan Warlord Posted August 1, 2007 Posted August 1, 2007 Utimus already had his ass owned by Eliminator in WGU...and even with Zeus power being a lil higher than Ultimus it still wouldnt make a lot of difference... Quote
*zeo Posted August 1, 2007 Posted August 1, 2007 Yes, you are correct Sparton Warlord, even together they would not stand much of a chance. Even though it's base power level was only about 8x the Eliminator could make itself up to 20x. Add the hyper adaptability and the ability to weaken its targets and even Zeus and Ultimus working together would only buy them time. Quote
McAvoy Posted August 1, 2007 Posted August 1, 2007 It took the combination of Zygote Guyver, Ultimus, Female Warrior Guyver, Guardian and Zeugma to take fight him. It took the power of Valkryie to actually defeat him but that was a fluke anyway, since if you think about it she is not as powerful as Zeugma and is only slightly more powerful than Zygote Guyver and Ultimus. Eliminator was designed to kill Female Warrior Guyver anyway who is only 4x. He loses his advantage when he starts to fight powerful beings like the above, but he still has the brute power on his side. If the Matrix were to create a W'Kar Reproduction Eliminator it would create something much, much more powerful. But my guess, the Matrix would zoaform the base host body somewhat. Quote
*zeo Posted August 2, 2007 Posted August 2, 2007 Yes, Eliminator took some damage during the fight and he wasn't yet adapted to the Warrior Gigantic so was unprepared for it. Lucky for Fiona. But unfortunately that was one of the reasons why it gave Dreadnought so much trouble after that since it did acquire some adaptation to the Warrior Gigantic. The thing to remember is the Eliminator is also a Warrior Unit so it can adapt to non-Guyvers as well. Which means that even though Zeugma is not a Guyver and is more powerful it could still have potentially killed her too if they faced off again. Quote
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