jedi-guyver Posted June 8, 2007 Posted June 8, 2007 Hey since I am Jedi-Guyver I figured that I could take a stab at what a jedi-guyver would be capable of. I used a standard guyvers datafile from WG.com as a base. Unit Type: Standard Unit-G Code Name: Jedi-Guyver Host Name: Unknown Sex: Male Age: 22 years Hair: Brown / Eyes: Blue Armored Height: 212 cm (~7 Feet) Human Height: 180 cm (~6 Feet ) Armored Weight: 363 kg (~800 Pounds) Human Weight: 80 kg (~165 Pounds) Status : Wondering nomad following where ever the Force takes him. Description: Subject is a Jedi bonded with a Guyver unit. Since subject is an unenhanced human, the guyver unit functions like a normal unit. However since the host is able to use the “Force” the subject can increase certain functions of the guyver unit as well as use a number of other abilities that do not pertain to the unit. -Physical strength: Subject possesses the standard Guyver strength of approximately 100 men. Subject can draw upon the “Force” to supplement the subject’s stamina allowing him to surpass his normal limits. -Hyper Sensors are same as a Standard Units, with a range of 100 meters (~328 Feet). Using the “Force” not only increases the range to an unspecified range but also gives the subject a precognitive danger sense and the ability of psychometry. Also using the “Force” in conjunction with the hyper sensors the subject can perceive how close to death a person is as well as their intentions -Durability is the same as a standard Guyvers. Subject can enhance his durability by using the “Force” to temporally create Force-based energy shields that vary in strength depending on the subject’s concentration as well as increasing the unit’s rate of regeneration up to a hundred times, but subject needs to enter a meditative state to achieve this, so its usefulness is limited. -Speed: Subjects has a reflex speed that ranges from 5 to 40 times normal, a top ground speed of up to 250 MPH, and a top air speed of 300 MPH. Use of the “Force” increases speed and reflexes 10 fold for brief periods. -Subject Head Beam functions at standard power levels of a normal Guyver. Subject can alter the function of the head beam through use of the “Force” so that inferred orb generates a blinding light. -Subject has a standard pair of Guyver Vibrational Swords. -Subjects Mega Smashers function within normal parameters of a standard Guyver. -Sonic Emitters are the same as a Standard Guyvers. Sonic emitters can be further enhanced by Force Scream that more than triples its effectiveness and range -Gravitational powers are the same as a Standard Guyver’s. Enhancement through use of the “Force” is unknown at the current time. -Use of the Force gives subject a wide range of extra abilities that do not work in conjunction with the unit. These include: Telekinesis, telepathy, empathy, several form of invisibility, environmental control (i.e. fog, or storms), Force lighting, illusion casting, and a number of other powers. Quote
McAvoy Posted June 9, 2007 Posted June 9, 2007 Most interesting. Normally when I see someone coming up a Guyver Luke or Guyver Anakin, the datafile is usually wanked out to the extreme. Good job. Quote
Spartan Warlord Posted June 9, 2007 Posted June 9, 2007 indeed i like it...most people wud make there powers rediculous buh its realistic and realistic can b in the guyver universe Quote
jedi-guyver Posted June 12, 2007 Author Posted June 12, 2007 Thanks. I was trying to figure out how to incorporate the Force powers into the guyver unit and I spent like a week looking at different sources and websites to see what the limitations would be. One of the things about force powers is that there is almost unlimited potential for what you can do, you just need to have the knowledge and ability. I mean its even possible to move through time. The thing thats cool about incorporating it into a guyver is that there is very clear limits with a guyver, so coming up with a way to combined the limits of the guyver and the unlimited potiential of a force user was fun. And it would make for a very fun character Quote
Shenzon Posted June 12, 2007 Posted June 12, 2007 Why not write a small story, Jedi-Guyver? It would be really nice to read. Have you drawn any pre-designs so far? Quote
Aranor Posted June 12, 2007 Posted June 12, 2007 Perhaps the use of light sabers can be incorporated into the armor. In place of the vibrational blades via grown crystals within the forearm/calves. Quote
W'Kar Posted June 12, 2007 Posted June 12, 2007 That'd require a unit change, this is merely your standard unit-g on top of a Jedi. No reason he can't use a lightsaber while fighting though. With a Guyvers increased reflexes and speed, along with the vibrational swords, would make a deadly combination. Quote
jedi-guyver Posted June 12, 2007 Author Posted June 12, 2007 I dont know if I could make the story, I'm not that great of a story writer. Maybe if someone helped me out on it I'd be able to come up with something. As for the lightsaber effect, prehapes if I shift the vibrational blades foreward and infuse them with "Force" energy that might work. Quote
W'Kar Posted June 12, 2007 Posted June 12, 2007 My Star Wars knowledge can be best summed up by the word 'Nada'. But I'm pretty sure the force has nothing to do with the lightsabers actually working. So using that method wouldn't do anything to the vibrational blades. Quote
jedi-guyver Posted June 12, 2007 Author Posted June 12, 2007 True but I wasnt going for actual lightsabers just the effect. Being charged with "Force" energy would be similiar to plasma blades but thats still like a lightsaber. Quote
Aranor Posted June 12, 2007 Posted June 12, 2007 My knowledge is mostly summed up by whats in the movies. A little I've read on the web. We have seen the Jedi/Siff use what appears to be lightning eminating from their hands. Don't see why that energy could not be focused on the blades. The saber work with rare crystal focused with some sort of conductor. As to what limits their length I am not sure. I can try an help with this if you like. Would the Jedi be transported into the Guyver world, or would the Guyver unit be transported into the Jedi world? Quote
largo Posted June 17, 2007 Posted June 17, 2007 Thanks. I was trying to figure out how to incorporate the Force powers into the guyver unit and I spent like a week looking at different sources and websites to see what the limitations would be. One of the things about force powers is that there is almost unlimited potential for what you can do, you just need to have the knowledge and ability. I mean its even possible to move through time. The thing thats cool about incorporating it into a guyver is that there is very clear limits with a guyver, so coming up with a way to combined the limits of the guyver and the unlimited potiential of a force user was fun. And it would make for a very fun character Well you wish came true in the newest series of starwars books Jacen can in fact travel through time. (The new series is the New Jedi Order first book is betrayal) Quote
McAvoy Posted June 18, 2007 Posted June 18, 2007 My knowledge is mostly summed up by whats in the movies. A little I've read on the web. We have seen the Jedi/Siff use what appears to be lightning eminating from their hands. Don't see why that energy could not be focused on the blades. The saber work with rare crystal focused with some sort of conductor. As to what limits their length I am not sure. I can try an help with this if you like. Would the Jedi be transported into the Guyver world, or would the Guyver unit be transported into the Jedi world? That is considered to the Jedi Order Old and New, to be a Sith only ability. Not saying Jedi can do it but some theorize that you need to use the Dark Side to do. Actually there was a controversial Jedi Knight or Master during the Clone Wars that used it. Though Yoda and possibly Grand Master Jedi Luke Skywalker could absorb the attack with their hands. Luke is considered to be at the peak of the potential Anakin would have been if he didn't go to the Dark Side and put in the Iron Lung. There are many abilities so undefined that could contribute to the Guyver unit to enhance the already deadly power of the unit by using the Force. Quote
jedi-guyver Posted June 21, 2007 Author Posted June 21, 2007 Well you wish came true in the newest series of starwars books Jacen can in fact travel through time. (The new series is the New Jedi Order first book is betrayal) Thats why I said it. I have and read probably around 220 of the star wars books mostly dealing with after the movies. The types of abilities that have been used in the books gives a lot og potential for a Jedi-guyver. I might possibly be able to use the hyper-sensors and the Battle Meld ablility together for incredable results Quote
McAvoy Posted June 22, 2007 Posted June 22, 2007 Probably. But it's all on the skill of the Jedi as well. Remember that Jedi learn and train to use their Force abilities in a certain manner. Not every Jedi can do whatever he wants. Also, some abilities are soleyl based on how powerful he is as well. For instance you can't have a yound 10 year old Padawan do the same exact thing that let's say Luke can do in his later years. Quote
*zeo Posted June 23, 2007 Posted June 23, 2007 Well a lot has to do with the level of training, as a Jedi is only as powerful as their level of control allows. It doesn't really matter how powerful the person themselves are. A Jedi draws their strength from the force. So you could have a 10 year old Padwan do the same exact things like Luke. Never mind Luke started training at a extremely late age, even Anakin was considered potentially too old. Sure some have different levels of potential but even those with maximum level of potential like Anakin did would only be as good as their training allowed them to be. So a stronger link to the force alone does not mean that person would be a powerful Jedi or Seth. It takes a lot of work and practice to get there. Having a strong link just means the training would be shorter and the person can potentially become powerful. A more interesting question though is would the Guyver strengthen a person's link to the force? Quote
McAvoy Posted June 23, 2007 Posted June 23, 2007 That would be a good question. It all depends on how you look at the Force. Is it some sort of biological thing as prescribed in Episode 1, or is it a mystical force as described in Episode 4? Training is a huge part of it. Look at Obi-Wan vs. Anakin. Ob-wan is a much weaker Jedi than Anakin, but Anakin wasn't trained enough to supress his emotions as Obi-Wan. On top of that, Anakin wasn't deep in the Dark Side during that fight as he was before during the CSA leadership cleansing. Luke also, in Episode 5 wasn't that trained to deal with a full fledged Sith Lord like Darth Vader. But in Episode 6 while not fully trained, he was able to hold his own against Darth Vader, and during his little trip to the edges of the Dark Side, did he literally push back Darth Vader. (It did help that Dark Vader's heart was not really into that fight. It seems that Anakin was starting to come back.) Palapatine has been said to be one of the most powerful Sith Masters ever if not the most powerful. But in Dark Empire, Luke managed to out duel a younger cloned version of Palpatine. So it has everything to do with training, since Yoda had trouble dueling Palpatine, but Luke only six or seven years can. It does help though, that Luke is a stronger Jedi than Yoda was. Like I said, it has been stated that Luke has the same potential as Anakin. In fact Luke later in EU, has practically reached his limit, but is still learning. Quote
*zeo Posted June 23, 2007 Posted June 23, 2007 Whether mystical or biological the Guyver is the power of life, just like the force. Though at the very least it can keep the droid doctors and their limb replacement parts away Quote
McAvoy Posted June 23, 2007 Posted June 23, 2007 Or accidently get caught on fire... and forced to wear the iron lung. Let's say that the Guyver unit does enhance the Force sensitivity, sinc ehte Guyver does draw on another dimension for power. It also does Bio Boost which is beyond the law of physics. What would a Jedi Guyver do with that much power? Quote
*zeo Posted June 23, 2007 Posted June 23, 2007 Channel it, like sometimes a Jedi becomes more powerful when they are surrounded by life. It's one of the reasons Yoda chose that planet he hid on. So at the very least the unit would help focus the force around the Jedi and make it easier to manipulate it maybe? Quote
Warbyrd13 Posted July 5, 2007 Posted July 5, 2007 That would be a good question. It all depends on how you look at the Force. Is it some sort of biological thing as prescribed in Episode 1, or is it a mystical force as described in Episode 4?Training is a huge part of it. Look at Obi-Wan vs. Anakin. Ob-wan is a much weaker Jedi than Anakin, but Anakin wasn't trained enough to supress his emotions as Obi-Wan. On top of that, Anakin wasn't deep in the Dark Side during that fight as he was before during the CSA leadership cleansing. Anakin got ****y in the fight and wanted for Obi to admit how powerful he was. If Anakin choose a differant way to deal with Obi then he wouldnt have been put in the "iron lung". Plus at that point Anakin couldnt really kill Obi yet there was still the bond between teacher and student. It took 20 years of pain and burning hatred made him go after Obi. Luke also, in Episode 5 wasn't that trained to deal with a full fledged Sith Lord like Darth Vader. But in Episode 6 while not fully trained, he was able to hold his own against Darth Vader, and during his little trip to the edges of the Dark Side, did he literally push back Darth Vader. (It did help that Dark Vader's heart was not really into that fight. It seems that Anakin was starting to come back.) Actualy Obi and Yoda knew Anakian wouldnt be able to kill his own child and if he did kill Luke Lea would be the back up. In the Book I, Jedi Coran Hayle (sp) explains to Luke that he was a weapon to be used against his father and wasnt really meant to surrive. Palapatine has been said to be one of the most powerful Sith Masters ever if not the most powerful. But in Dark Empire, Luke managed to out duel a younger cloned version of Palpatine. Palpaptine was very cunning and poweful but Luke is the son of the Chosen one which gives him more power. Plus Luke wanted to understand the DarkSide so he became a student so as a true master he would understand the Force. Palaptines body couldn't handle the amount of power he held so he tried to posses one of the solo kids. So it has everything to do with training, since Yoda had trouble dueling Palpatine, but Luke only six or seven years can. It does help though, that Luke is a stronger Jedi than Yoda was. Like I said, it has been stated that Luke has the same potential as Anakin. In fact Luke later in EU, has practically reached his limit, but is still learning. Training and understanding of the Force helps but the Luke has a grat advantage of what he does naturaly takes other Jedi years of training to match what he can do. I can help on some of the force ablities but rember there is just only the Force. Light Side and Dark Side is really more of how you use the ablitiy. The Force lightening can be used by a Master if he wants to. The new series with Jacen Solo and what direction he is going is intersting but I could argue on how single minded the Jedi were before Luke began training everyone in the living force doctrine. Anakin would have never fallen if the council would have acted with more wisdom and guidance with him. If Anakian wasnt treated like a tool, but more of a person or ally. I love the whole come and save the day in the clone wars but your only a student yet most of the Jedi Knights we have couldnt do what you just did. You co Quote
McAvoy Posted July 7, 2007 Posted July 7, 2007 Some think that the Dark Side and Light Side is either viewed as black and white. Polar opposites or on how you use it in a mind set. Quote
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