WarriorZoalord Posted July 28, 2007 Posted July 28, 2007 O.o now thats one big guyver.... well, I think we just found out who's going to win if Guyver I and Guyver III ever battle each other... Quote
*zeo Posted July 28, 2007 Author Posted July 28, 2007 Seems we can't count Khan out yet, seems he can create super powerful bio-missiles with an interesting twist. Not only are they each powerful enough to take out a city block but... They emit a energy field that lets them go right through the Gigantic's Barrier Shield. Which means Giant Gigantic Guyver One has no protection against this attack and it appears powerful enough to take out even something his size. Though it does appear the Barrier Shield is more flexible an ability than previous thought as GGG1 protected a building with it by project the barrier with his hands so the barrier protected the building in front of him but did not include himself. Which also means the Gigantic could probably contain an explosion if he wanted to. Quote
WarriorZoalord Posted July 29, 2007 Posted July 29, 2007 you know... talking about the gigantic getting.... super gigantic in size... it reminds me of the fight between Dready and Tonin, when he made himself big using all that rock and such... I'm surprised no one bitched about the "Ultramanification" of a guyver there XD Quote
*zeo Posted July 30, 2007 Author Posted July 30, 2007 Probably because they knew it wasn't real, only a manifestation of Dreadnought's power. Unlike the Giant Gigantic which really is a Giant Gigantic. Quote
guyverfanatic Posted July 30, 2007 Posted July 30, 2007 I wonder how powerful the hyper smashers are... 2,000x possibly? Quote
WarriorZoalord Posted July 30, 2007 Posted July 30, 2007 Depends, for all we know they are the same power, just a lot bigger. Quote
*zeo Posted July 30, 2007 Author Posted July 30, 2007 I wonder how powerful the hyper smashers are... 2,000x possibly? Considering the head beam, the swords, and the barrier shield are all showing themselves to be equivalent to the size of the Gigantic. There's a good possibility then the Smashers are also equivalent. But going by size it'll be more than 2000x. Remember even the normal Gigantic Smashers are 100x a normal Smasher and they less than double the normal size. While the Giant Gigantic is like 12 times taller but with equivalent increase in volume as well. So they can be anywhere up to a million times more powerful. Quote
McAvoy Posted July 30, 2007 Posted July 30, 2007 Is he really 60 meters tall? If he is than all the weapons are 80 times larger than before, which means his weapons could be anywhere between 80x to a million times more powerful than before for all we know. Quote
McAvoy Posted July 31, 2007 Posted July 31, 2007 Actually the weapons would be 8,000x as massive. So he would at least be 8,000x as strong. Quote
*zeo Posted July 31, 2007 Author Posted July 31, 2007 More if you consider the whole body is storing a massive charge of energy and using the Smashers might discharge all that energy. This makes more sense when you remember the Gigantic was created to defeat Alkanphel and Alkanphel had the potential to destroy something as big as a small moon. The amount of energy needed to equal that power is closer to a million times the power of the Guyver Mega Smashers. Quote
McAvoy Posted July 31, 2007 Posted July 31, 2007 Closer to a billion times that, if we're going by 10 kiloton range. To destroy a 900 kilometer asteriod would require 100 Teratons or more. Quote
*zeo Posted July 31, 2007 Author Posted July 31, 2007 Yup, so if most of the 60 meter tall mass of the Giant Gigantic is stored energy then releasing it all at once would easily provide that level of power. Quote
McAvoy Posted July 31, 2007 Posted July 31, 2007 I just wonder if he's going to fight Alkanphel at that size or somehow like Dragonball GT shrink himself into normal size. Quote
WarriorZoalord Posted July 31, 2007 Posted July 31, 2007 now just think if Dreadnought could go and do this.... i think he could annihilate the entire grakken fleet himself. Quote
Zeus Thunderbolt Posted July 31, 2007 Posted July 31, 2007 I was wondering if that this huge gigantic is really the Gigantic modules true size? I mean, since the gigantic was a giant living space ship that got destroyed, it could still have the ability to grow to the previous size of being a giant space ship with the exception of being Guyver shaped. The size of the Gigantic Guvyer being about 12 feet could be explained as being something that mirrored the height of the Zoalords that Sho had seen before and subconsously chose 12 feet to match them. The mass of the Gigantic Guyver could have been hidden in a higher dimension for later use. And a possible reason that Agito did not raise his hight could be that Sho could have told the Gigantic Module not to Tell Agito about all of its functions because of some miss trust. Quote
*zeo Posted July 31, 2007 Author Posted July 31, 2007 The normal Gigantic height is under ten feet for both versions Gigantic's. Only the Fan Fic Dreadnought is 12 feet tall and that's a combination of the fact that Jason is taller than either Sho or Agito, and his WG form is even taller than Risker's. And the Warrior Gigantic is more powerful so is naturally taller. Ultimus is based on an Aceaer so has to be bigger for equivalent power so he's 16.4 feet tall. The Giant Unit by itself is 15 feet with a human pilot. Quote
Kamui de' Tempest Posted July 31, 2007 Posted July 31, 2007 The mass of the Gigantic Guyver could have been hidden in a higher dimension for later use. And a possible reason that Agito did not raise his hight could be that Sho could have told the Gigantic Module not to Tell Agito about all of its functions because of some miss trust. I don't think that the Giga Unit told Sho how to grow that big. I think it was a based on him wanting more power to defeat the Zoalord. But, if Agito was around for that spectacle, then it would stand to reason that he now knows how to do it himself. I have a question though. Is there a factor of Synchronization between the Giga unit and it's host? I mean, does Sho synch with it better than Agito does because he was part of the creation of it? I ask this because I was watching Evangelion earlier and they where really adaminent about the synch ratio's, is that something to be taken into account for Sho being the first to do alot of things ability wise with the Gigantic? Quote
*zeo Posted July 31, 2007 Author Posted July 31, 2007 Possible, also it's a matter of will power. Before Sho was the weaker will but after his friend's death his will is so strong now he considers it a new power. Which is what he said when he started to turn giant, basically that with his new power (I.E.>Will Power) he would unleash the Gigantic's true power. So even after witnessing it Agito may not be able to do it unless he could match Sho's new level of Will Power. It's also possible Agito may never have had full control of the Gigantic and it was just Sho's weak will and unwillingness to fight that gave him control. For example when the one and only time the Gigantic has collapsed after firing the Giga Smashers was when Agito was facing off against Imakirum. Thing to remember is Sho could not bring himself to kill him because he still remembers Murikami. So it is possible the reason the Gigantic came off at that precise moment was because of Sho, to prevent Agito from killing Imakirum. Or that Sho never gave Agito full control. All we know for sure is Sho has now completely outclassed Agito in both ripping the Gigantic Away from Agito and blocking him from taking it back. As well as making the Gigantic do something that is truly amazing. Quote
McAvoy Posted July 31, 2007 Posted July 31, 2007 This brings up a good point though. The Warrior Gigantic is a true Gigantic unit like Gigantic guyver after all. On top of that Dreadnought has a Matrix so he should be able to do whatever Gigantic Guyver has been shown to do plus more. So Dreadnought should grow up to 73.2 meters tall as well and have far greater strength and power. In that respect that if the Giga Smashers are truly that powerful like we are theorizing, then Giant Dreadnought's power would approach planet cracking power. Quote
W'Kar Posted July 31, 2007 Posted July 31, 2007 I believe we have officially set the cut off date of the manga from our fic at book 16. So that power is not involved in the main fic. Quote
Frost Posted August 1, 2007 Posted August 1, 2007 That is nice to know.. i mean growing big! next you will know he is growing a tail! sheesh. Quote
McAvoy Posted August 1, 2007 Posted August 1, 2007 No, next thing you will know is if Guyver 1 jumps out of the chest while the Giant Gigantic is still active. Then you got either a.) Gundam or any huge Mecha story or the classic Power Rangers crap. Quote
W'Kar Posted August 1, 2007 Posted August 1, 2007 No, the real trip would be if he played a flute and the Gigantic came out of the ocean. Then I'd be frightened. Quote
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