Vengeance Posted November 11, 2005 Posted November 11, 2005 After the new info about yet another Hyper Zoanoid getting a unit that isnt standard or a warrior means that is yet another heavy hitter for the Chronos side. As far as I see it Chronos will eventually have: 1. Warrior Alkanphel 2. Guyver Powered Zereburbuse 3. Warrior Guyver Vamore 4. Warrior Guyver Thrancus 5. Guyver Darzerb 6. Tonnin Not to mention vast numbers of Zoaforms who in groups can even cause problems for Dreadnought. The ACTF currently has in that power range 1. Dreadnought (rogue) 2. Angel 3. Zeugma (rogue) 4. Gilgamesh 5. Dark Nova it really seems to me like things are gonna be looking pretty bleak for the humans sooner or later, any thoughts? Quote
McAvoy Posted November 11, 2005 Posted November 11, 2005 1. Warrior Alkanphel. We don't know what's goign on with him. 40x 2. Guyver Powered Zerebubuse. All strength, no speed. 40x 3. Warrior Guyver Vamore. His unit was taken off. 10x 4. Warrior Guyver Thancrus. Perhaps. He hasn't been shown yet. Possibly 10x to 20x 5. Guyver Darzerb. Zeo said he's not a Guyver or Warrior Guyver. Besides he would be in the same power range as GPZ, but without the bio lasers and such. ??? 6. Tonnin. Ok. 25x 7. Zarfel. You forgot him. 20x 1. Dreadnought. He's the most capable of all the Guyvers to take down anyone the above listed. He can even take on two of them. Eliminator and WGV. 25 to 40x 2. Angel. Ok 23x 3. Zeugma. Ok. 22.5x 4. Gilgamesh. Ok, but his size is a disadvantage. And he's only a 18x Guyver. 5. Dark Nova. Ok. 25x 6. W'Kar. Only if he wants to play. 17 to 25x But for the ACTF, we also have more medium powered beings, then Chronos. 1. Aceaer Warrior Guyver 2. Of course this depends alot on his CPMs though. 5.6 to 10x 2. Zeus. If he is not dead. 12 to 16x 3. Black Nova 2. 10x 4. Zygote Guyver. Only if she wants to play. 10x 5. Ultimus. 10x 6. Prometheus. 10x 7. Guardian. 6 to 20x 8. Guyver XT. 4x to 10x Chronos has: 1. Kron: 10x to 12x. If he will recover. 2. Drano: 2 to 10x. If there is alot of Bio Titans around him. Quote
WarriorZoalord Posted November 11, 2005 Posted November 11, 2005 dont forget Crimson, he's about Standard WG Level of 4x, plus it can get higher if its true he can access grakken tech, and is near a grakken ship. Quote
Vengeance Posted November 11, 2005 Author Posted November 11, 2005 1. Warrior Alk (40x) probably coming back stronger since he's in a cocoon 2. GPZ (40x) agreed all strength and no speed but dont forget serious firepowers 3. WG Vamore (10X?) I think he was stronger then that and again heavy firepower. 4. WG Thrancus (?) I think he is going to be up there with GPZ since he is a hyper zoanoid with a warrior unit 5. Guyver Darzerb. Unknown Guyver Type and again I think he is gonna be stronger then GPZ since strength wise their close, the unit is unknown and probably stronger then a standard type. No bio lasers but he does have that napalm breath which is probably going to be really strong as well. 6. Tonnin 25x, despite always being beat he is no slouch himself. 7. Zarfel 20x, unknown reason why he is stronger, could change things for him later. 8. Sedah (we both forgot him) I'm gonna guess 23x like Angel 1. Dreadnought 25x to 40x, he took on two of them but they where not the heavy hitters on that list, alk and gpz would give him more trouble then I think Eliminator and WGV. Eliminator is powerful because of his design to fight against WG's 2. Angel, no one is sure of her commitment thought 3. Zeugma 22.5x OK, but if the Creators come back who knows what she will do. 4. Gilgamesh, size disadvantage yes but W'kar Protypes have been known to cause problems even without high power levels. Remember W'Kar seems to think he could give Jason trouble now. 5. Dark Nova ok 25x 6. W'kar? Cant be sure of what he will do thought, he has been ordered to fight Jason so who knows where he really stands. Agreed that the ACTF has more medium level beings but in pure numbers Chronos more then makes up for that. Sure the Bio-Titan is only 2x a standard unit but their regenative powers and their ability to combine their fire power when in large numbers counter acts that of the medium levels. When Eliminator showed up and their units couldnt talk to one another their where in some serious trouble. Quote
McAvoy Posted November 13, 2005 Posted November 13, 2005 Warrior Guyver Vamore matched physical strength with Guardian. So either he's 6x or 10x. She wasn't using Bio Doubler until later. But WGV's bio smasher/lasers easily exceeded her Bio Doubler enhanced mega smashers. Quote
*zeo Posted November 13, 2005 Posted November 13, 2005 Wow, interesting theories Well WG Vamore was definitely only 10x in strength, remember despite being bonded to a WG a Vamore is still a physically puny zoanoid. So all its power goes into its laser pods, which the WG enhances into increadibly powerful hyper space energy syphoning Smashers that are powerful enough to even give Dreadnought a run for his money. Similarly WG Thancrus will predominantly enhance his strongest characteristics which are speed and agility, along with of course his vibraional blades. Crimson Aceaer is a Creation from Allen for the Angel Guyver fic and his power level was never really settled. And we're not sure we'll keep him now that Allen isn't around. I'll let you guys vote on it if you really want us to use him or not? Dreadnought, remember that even though he can go 40x he can do so for only up to 15 minutes before overloading and reverting to his Pre-Matrix form for several minutes. Ditto with a few of his power attacks like the Tsunami Power Wave Punch. So powerful but with some limits. Though don't forget Jason can pass the Warrior Gigantic to other WG units as well. Albiet without the Matrix enhancement since the Matrix is only bonded to his unit. So you also have occassional 12x characters like Valkyrie (WG Gigantic F-WG). Gilgamesh has some history with Jason and now that Jason is rogue with the ACTF that animosity will only get worse. But even though he can't match Dreadnought's power, unless he catches him in his pre-matrix form, having a supposed ally that can turn on you in the middle of battle with the enemy can be trouble. Tonnin, may seem to always being defeated but that is only because he's been pitted against the best of his enemies. Against anyone else and he would be very hard to beat, not to mention near impossible to perminently kill. Remember he's a Kavzar enhanced Zoalord. Sedah, the thing to remember about him is that he is a psychopath. Combine with a high power level and you got one of the most dangerous characters in the fic. Darzerb, I'm not saying what type he is, though you'll probably never guess But a thing to note though, a Guyver has no mouth so how do you suppose for him to use his napalm breath? The Practorian Units like Guardian are fairly powerful being WG units upgraded with GWOTG Mark II tech. But note using the Bio-Doubler has its cost and can temperarily weaken them due to the serious power drain it causes. So characters like Guardian are really only 6x-10x with the ability to go turbo for 20x but with a cost for doing so. Ultimus is 10x but remember the Giant Unit is just a specialized Aceaer and not a true Gigantic. Zeus was also not a true Gigantic and relied heavily on CPM tech for his power but CPM tech has it limits. So just like a normal WG2, Zeus's 16x could not be applied to all abilities at once. Though the 12x level could. Zarfel is also powerful but this wasn't achieved solely by zoaforming. He is an augmented character and what gave him his high power level will be explained later in the fic. Overall though We tend to make our characters abilities as realistic as possible so not all abilities are equal. So power ratings are primarily for the average unless refering to a specific ability. Of course everything will get an overhaul for Chronicles Quote
McAvoy Posted November 14, 2005 Posted November 14, 2005 I say keep Crimson, just for the hell of it. Besides isn't he just a 4x character anyway? I mean he's a combination of a Grakken unit and a Hyper Aceaer unit mutated together. Quote
*zeo Posted November 14, 2005 Posted November 14, 2005 Yes, essentually the mutation is what makes him 4x since the mutation makes the Aceaer act more like a Guyver unit and merges with the host for an actual Bio-Boost. Unlike other Aceaers which act more like exo-suits. But I'll leave it up to a vote since without Allen we're going to have to find another story plot reason to keep him. So, so far we got one vote to keep him, anyone else? Quote
Vengeance Posted November 14, 2005 Author Posted November 14, 2005 I'd say keep him, couldnt hurt. However what about Allen's other characters? What is the fate of Angel and W'kar. Quote
*zeo Posted November 14, 2005 Posted November 14, 2005 Okay that's two votes, as for Angel and W'Kar their fates were decided from the beginning by Allen so we'll just follow the plan for them. Crimson was just a character Allen was going to introduce for his side of the fic. The biggest change will be just that Angel won't have her own fic and will be just included in the regular fic instead. Quote
Armageddon Posted November 14, 2005 Posted November 14, 2005 I'd say keep Crimson and find another spot for him. He was an interesting character. Quote
largo Posted November 15, 2005 Posted November 15, 2005 What about that one lost number the one that is Balcus's assitant. The one that accendly activates that one unit-w. Quote
WarriorZoalord Posted November 15, 2005 Posted November 15, 2005 What about that one lost number the one that is Balcus's assitant. The one that accendly activates that one unit-w. You mean the one GPZ messed with after she got attacked by crystellite? SOILER WARNING... for those who have yet to read all of seven days so far, DON'T LOOK if you want to be surprised heh, If she stays with chronos, it would be interesting to see depending of if her matrix gives the same abilities as dred's. Quote
Juggernought Posted November 15, 2005 Posted November 15, 2005 I'd say keep him as well. He's another "power-house" and since he has such control over grakken technology it would be interesting to see how his role would act out when the grakkens come onto the scene fully instead of just various situations. Quote
McAvoy Posted November 15, 2005 Posted November 15, 2005 I agree. I forgot about the poll we did a year ago on what WG.com would do after 7 days fic, and that would have involved the Creators and the Grakkens. As for Natasha (I believe that's her name) she would be as powerful as MWG but since she's already incredibly smart she probably would use the Matrix to it's full advantage as a tool, not a weapon. However, she had a piece of the Matrix, we don't know if the Matrix can regenerate that sort of damage. I mean Warrior Guyver's Matrix was only a damaged one, not a bunch of pieces. Quote
*zeo Posted November 15, 2005 Posted November 15, 2005 You're also forgetting she was infected by the Crystallite crystals. Quote
Juggernought Posted November 16, 2005 Posted November 16, 2005 Is it possible that guyver looking darzerb could be the manifestation of what that guy in the black cloak was up to? since it was he that was teleporting around taking pieces of guyvers n stuff Quote
McAvoy Posted November 16, 2005 Posted November 16, 2005 Possibly or he could be a new character for Chronicles. Yeah she was infected by Crystallite but would think since Dreadnought was able to neutralize the infection, she would to even though she recieved it before she was merged with the Matrix. For all we know she would be mutant Warrior Matrix Crystallite being with 40x to 60x power level. Quote
Juggernought Posted November 17, 2005 Posted November 17, 2005 Does anyone know who that white looking guyver beside the new darzerb is? Could it be that new apothecary guyver? Quote
Matt Bellamy Posted November 17, 2005 Posted November 17, 2005 Does anyone know who that white looking guyver beside the new darzerb is? Could it be that new apothecary guyver? A close up of the control medal will answer that question Bad James! Putting in characters that don't even have character art in my gallery! Bad! Quote
Vengeance Posted November 17, 2005 Author Posted November 17, 2005 Isn't that Guyver Syn? It sure looks like her Quote
McAvoy Posted November 17, 2005 Posted November 17, 2005 Syn doesn't have a Guyver unit. I think that's Apothecary Guyver. Quote
Vengeance Posted November 18, 2005 Author Posted November 18, 2005 As of right now she doesn't, take a look at Syn's picture and tell me you dont think that white guyver looks like her. Remember as far as the story goes we havent seen WG Thrancus or this Guyver Darzerb yet and there is still a picture of them. Just because we have yet to be introduced to a character or a new aspect of them doesnt mean that their isnt a picture of them already. Although I will admit it may also be the Apothecary (sp?) Guyver since the its control medal does look similiar in style, truth is we wont know until we read about them or one of the mods tell us. Quote
pyroflite Posted November 1, 2006 Posted November 1, 2006 where is the picture of guyver darzerb and warrior guyver thancrus? Quote
largo Posted November 1, 2006 Posted November 1, 2006 Go to the first like on warriorguyver.com and the big pic will have them on it but it's up to you to find. Quote
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