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Guest Guyver I
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At the moment Agito has two navigational spheres which Sho used to create the gigantic armour, what if Agito or Sho were to use these spheres to create a new upgrade armour on top or the existing Gigantic. Could this new Guyver exist and if so how strong would it be?

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At the moment Agito has two navigational spheres which Sho used to create the gigantic armour, what if Agito or Sho were to use these spheres to create a new upgrade armour on top or the existing Gigantic. Could this new Guyver exist and if so how strong would it be?

My bet is that Agito is using the control spheres to make his own gigantic armor to counter Sho's.

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He would have originally had an ulterior motive for the navi-spheres as he went after them before Sho tore the gigantic off him so as far as he was concerned he was the gigantics master and didn't need a second one. He probably wanted the info out of them. Maybe he's making his own ark.

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He would have originally had an ulterior motive for the navi-spheres as he went after them before Sho tore the gigantic off him so as far as he was concerned he was the gigantics master and din't need a second one. He probably wanted the inof out of them. Maybe he's making his own ark.

That's more than likely more true than my theory. :lol:

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That's more than likely more true than my theory. :lol:

Yeah! I totallu agree with you there. However since Makashima has lost the ability to use the Gigantic, he would now have to find a way to create a Gigantic Upgrade module for himself. But with the ability to counter Fukamachi's Gigantic module! I wonder what will it look like, and what abilities will Makashima's Gigantic module have?

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whoever said agito had lost the ability to use the gigantic??

I believe that has been totally fabricated.

all we know is that sho ripped the gigantic off agito.

this doesn't in any way mean that agito can't call it. it just means that sho had more will power than agito at that moment.

Guest guyvergigantic
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yeah good point Ryuki, but i think that wehn the gigantic was ripped off Agito it would have been a huge wake up call to him. its obvious that now he knows that he can be overwhelmed by SHo and although the power strugle for the armour could continue i could see Makishima as the type to play the percentages and make one completely for himself and not risk such a thing again... plus i think the whole will battle for the armour is getting a bit old, its been so long since another Guyver form has come out, i think now would be a pretty good oppurtunity.

ps, sho seems to be on a bit on a moral high atm which is rare for him so i cant see makishima beating him in a battle of willpower for quite sometime, but heres another theory, Makishima might actually attack Sho where it really hurts (meaning destroying him metally by taking out a friend or soemthing) to beat down his will so he can overpower him and use the gigantic once again.

but yea, other than that id say taht the info would be what he was originally intending, but now perhaps an 'emergency' change of mind might bring about another Guyver form... but honestly this is also me hoping to see another Guyver form rather than genuinely expecting it lol

Guest Nataku418
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True. I believe Agito still can call on the Gigantic, but now it seems that Sho has the stronger will power of the two. I do not believe Agito will try to use or take back that Gigantic from Sho now. I think he will create one from the two spheres he took. Agito is a strategist; he probably thought about all the possible outcomes about sharing and taking the gigantic. Obviously he wanted it all for himself, but might have thought about times where it might be best to have a second one, especially if Sho ever took Gigantic back from him. Agito seems like a guy that would have a backup plan for something that important. Of course it is possible that he just wanted more power from the two spheres, adding to Gigantic Dark, and now he can use them to become it once again or even stronger. I find it funny that he has two spheres and now there is a new Guyver that appeared... Could there be a Gigantic Trinity?

Guest Unknown_Guyver
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It seemed that Sho blocked Agito from using the Gigantic armour which was the exact thing Agito did to Sho. As Agito tried to fight to get the gigantic armour back the armour wasn't responding to Agito at all. It maybe possible for Agito to use the Gigantic Armour yet at the same time maybe it won't be if Sho has blocked out Agito's commands over the armour.

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i do believe that agito will try to make his own gigantic armour now that he has the two navigational spheres, it's only natural that he will plan for everything and specially now sho managed to block him from recalling sho's gigantic armour...

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i do believe that agito will try to make his own gigantic armour now that he has the two navigational spheres, it's only natural that he will plan for everything and specially now sho managed to block him from recalling sho's gigantic armour...

That's what I was thinking. :)

Guest ALKENPHELL
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How about this idea, if agito does make a new gigantic Guyver what wood happen if he equiped not only his new gigantic but sho's gigantic armour at the same time! just how powerfull wood he become??? :shock::shock: let me no what you think

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How about this idea, if agito does make a new gigantic Guyver what wood happen if he equiped not only his new gigantic but sho's gigantic armour at the same time! just how powerfull wood he become??? :shock::shock: let me no what you think

to be honest I don't think a Guyver could equip two gigantic armours at once it would like us trying to wear to sets of shoes at once

after all the guyvers cm merges with the outer ring that controls the gigantic during operation, any aditional addons would require an extra ring layer to control, which would make the extra addon unusable to a Guyver not using the gigantic

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Besides, after the Exceed, don't you think the Gigantic is already powerful enough?

Anyway, I think the possibly is much greater that the knowledge contained in those Navigation Spheres will be the most significant factor, rather than the Sphere's themselves.

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Perhaps Agito will override the Gigantics programming with the new spheres instead of creating a new one he could somehow reprogramme it so only he can call it. When Agito first used it Sho had to call it and allow Agito to use it.

Although I don't believe for a second that's the limit of his plans for them.

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Perhaps Agito will override the Gigantics programming with the new spheres instead of creating a new one he could somehow reprogramme it so only he can call it. When Agito first used it Sho had to call it and allow Agito to use it.

Although I don't believe for a second that's the limit of his plans for them.

I don't think Makashima would be able to do that. Since the original Gigantic was created by the Control Spheres of the Relic from Relics Point. I believe that the Control Spheres of each Relic is unique, so being able to alter the programming of Fukamachi's Gigantic would not be possible.

However I do wonder the identity of the New Female Guyver IV?

After reading the new chapter

I do wonder is it possible to create a artifical Control Medal? I believe that Balcus somehow found a way to repair Lisker's Control Medal, and found a way to delete Lisker's data from it. Thus making the Control Medal reproduce itself in the Bio Booster Unit form.

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I don't think Makashima would be able to do that. Since the original Gigantic was created by the Control Spheres of the Relic from Relics Point. I believe that the Control Spheres of each Relic is unique, so being able to alter the programming of Fukamachi's Gigantic would not be possible.

It's never been stated in such a way and seeing as the navi spheres and the regular control medal merged I don't see why it's impossible for it to happen, especially seeing as all navis spheres would probably communicate with each other for when they where flying through space sending information to each ship etc. Also, navi spheres are slaved to respond to a being merged with a control medal, they'd probably respond to any command.

Also, the text about the artificial control medal is a direct translation of what is being said. Balcus says they studied the medal and made their own. Liskers was destroyed.

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The data files say that the duel control metal of the Gigantic works by increasing the signal strength. So it probably works on the same principles. The remover started to work on Agito, but then stopped short. The reason given was that it wasn't at full power. That says something about the erasure of data in the control metal. That the unit remover isn't giving a command to erase, but physically purging a memory material. It also suggests how the control metal relies on that memory area, and how it will disengage without it. Would this be a failsafe to prevent the parasite from eating a host? Some hard wired programing?

Anyway, if the duel control metal is really mimicking the regular control metal, then a unit remover may work if it has a strong enough charge. The Gigantic would probably return to the Chrysalis, and the regular armor would be removed. If the Gigantic -does- have a memory section, it might also be erased. If that memory is used to determine who its overall master is (as opposed to whomever has the stronger will et all), or even specific form of regular Gigantic vrs Gigantic Dark. It could even be that the memory of the Duel control metal keeps it in Gigantic form, and not a clump of Relic material. It really depends on how the Gigantic was turned from the Relic.

In any event, I think a strong enough signal from a unit remover can get through to the regular control metal and remove the regular armor. I mean, other Guyvers can get control metal signals through to each other through the duel control metal, they've done it in a few cases. It would have to be a stronger than normal signal though to remove the armor.

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