Juggernought

I remember from a while back that Chronos captured one of these warriors..a female i believe...and is currently holding her in a bio-tube to study and regenerate, her acear unit had returned to the creators but does anyone have any speculations as to Alkanphels plans for this one?

Having a host who is more capable of fighting would make him a more deadly guyver but not necessarily more powerful. He would know how to use the guyver's weapons to the best effect and especially when the opportunity is open to him/her, not just based on instinct or blind luck. I believe a guyver's merging is more on the physical level, if the host has any latent abilities...such as telekinesis or the ki type abilities in DBZ they would definately still have them but perhaps in a more focused and powerful form since the host bodies have been modified to their full potential. My guess is that having a venom type symbiot on a host and with the guyver trying to bond with the same host would cause a conflict. They would try to destroy one another, and i believe the guyver organism would win, but at the same time probably take on more of the characteristics of the venom suit, maybe even giving the guyver shapeshifting abilities who knows. Think of that scenario much like our bodies that are host to symbiotic bacteria that eliminates any other that tries to use us as a host. Depending on which is stronger we either get sick or stay healthy. Its also like getting the chicken pox, once you've had it you are immune because your body still carries the virus but has transformed it into a more protective barrier against further infection.

It probably wasn't made to bond with a host already equipped with a unit, just a more advanced version of the regular acear and thus better able to quickly upgrade to kavzar status. In case of deactivation it was meant to return to the creators which it probably would have done so if the Grakken hadn't activated it. That built in system was probably deactivated and became rogue once it took on some unexpected characteristics of the grakken unit. Much like the kavzar process, it absorbed many of the grakkens unit and enhanced itself.

Wasn't that because it was trying to merge with the grakken and something got damaged?

Or perhaps it has a way of scanning a possible host's brain to see if he/she is acceptable and able to utilize it fully. In the many ways we see or read of a person bonding with a unit the cm glowed for a bit and then activated a moment later. Perhaps in those few seconds it quickly analysed the host.

Through this link a relatively new warrior guyver can obtain experience as well right? Like how to defeat an enemy he/she hasn't met as yet, many of the abilities the unit has and how to utilize them, perhaps even the fighting styles of another unit providing the link.

My original thought on how the Giant unit worked was that in seeing it was much bigger than the average user and doesnt boost the user to giant size it would instead just interpret the user's consciousness if he wanted to move his arms, legs or sit. The host doesn't have to physically do anything but just think about it and the unit acts as an extension of his mind and body, with no differential between the unit and the host body.

Ok, here's a second go...what about sharing its "life-force"? We can see that alexandria has a lot of its abilities on a organic level. It must have taken a lot out of it to totally restructure her to what she is now and as a side effect most of what makes up the matrix has either been siphoned or transfered to alexandria.

I noticed that quality as well. For those of you that either believe in the bible or have read it, many of the Christians hold this same kind of faith to God. Because of this faith it made them stronger and more of a threat to nonbelievers...the Romans thought they were the one thing that could overthrow their control over the Middel East and sought to erradicate them through torturing them and putting them to death by crucifiction, burning and being eatin alive by lions yet they didn't fear death but rather embraced it. Also through that faith they sought to spread christianity, no matter the cost.

Yea man Alkanphel's voice was pretty appropriate. Its the kind where you can tell a person is extremely sophisticated, arrogant, and bored with all the useless things around him as well as some what amused at guyot's definace. Very neat effects in the way he teleported in by the way.

Also its possible they might not get the chance...with Zagam on the way they could either be destroyed or possibly recruited.

No i believe that particular remover can remove any unit below a warrior type level...the one talked about in the crashed clan ship a different one

If he has visions of seeing sarah being with him for a long time, more than likely i'd bet he'd remake her in a new kind of advanced lycanlord, more enhanced by his matrix than anything. And seeing that he holds admiration for her strength and no weaknesses, she'll be one powerful being in her right, something like an apprentice. Thats my thoughts anyway. A very good preview of the new fic and the mind of the Dark lord. As we can now see, he isn't just another blind follower of the order, but one who has independent thought within the boundaries of Anubis' control.

At the very least, if jason knew about this remover i'd think he'd be wanting to destroy it as it could spell very bad news if chronos also finds this out and grabs it....or guyot starts getting wind of it.

Well my best guess would be....if you trace back to all the things the matrix has been doing lately in this universe. It used a lot of its power bringing Ira back to life briefly to safe the baby, it then transfered the baby to cassandra and at the same time remade a unit specifically for sustaining that child with w'kar element in the unit. It also altered the physiology of the baby drastically changing it to make its life better. Not to mention any tasks its had to do for the creators and other characters who gained control over it. So it looks like it used up a lot of its energy and simply didn't have the time to repair or regain that limited energy. Something drove it over the edge.

Only his current stats, they have just been revamped and improved from the old datafiles i believe. He has yet to reach full power.

So basically when in the fan fics we see warrior unit enhanced hosts either eating or sleeping, its left over from their basic habit of doing so, or enjoying it. Since the AI system is more advanced would it compensate for a less desirable host...meaning one who isn't trained at all as far as hand to hand combat is concerned.

Ah, got ya. So any speculations on how integrated this adaption ability is for the host? The unit itself can quickly change depending on the situation, even if they are designed to bond on a genetic level, for the host themselves how far does that bond go?

Yea i know the matrix is the one thing you don't stand a chance against, but wasn't there a remover mades specifically for warrior class units?

I was wondering, since a warrior unit adapts to any situation and many threats would it be possible to eventually adapt to the effects of the unit remover, especially if the host expresses a strong desire for the unit to remain with him/her?

Wow ok. So i guess it would also have some kind of long range weaponry as well for its defense and possible offense? Kind of like your twisted version of a Death Star...or is it more a host for siphoned energy to be directed to Anubis

In my opinion many of the guyvers on the ACTF are narrow-minded and selfish...Think on it, they all have this intense hatred towards Chronos because of some experience that has happened to them and despite the fact that they know Chronos' real motive is to stop the creators. Still when outside enemies fight they still resist Chronos like its nobody's business, and only now some are beginning to realise that they actually need them. Transformers was an awesome film...great graphics and a great introduction into the scene, sure if you want to get nit-picky there are a few things here and there but overall i enjoyed it.... ***SPOILER*** one of the best action scenes i really liked was when Barricade was chasing Bumblebee and he ran then transformed into the police version of the mustang, really put together well.

Good question....maybe the planet provides its own source internally somehow, then releases the energy into the atmosphere enabling it to sustain life in some way. Either way Anubis would have to have a direct involvment in it. Or it could be that it only has a planet like surface on the outside and inside is totally different and has been modified to suit Anubis' needs.

yea, and imagine when he starts wanting the power and realises he needs things to be that way. So could zagam modify himself as well? He too has a matrix, or is this another of its abilities that has been lost?

So basically it would take a counter-order from a creator in order to reverse this paralysis effect on his mind and allow him to fully recover? By the way Jason has many of the mental capabilities of a creator now and since it has been enhanced by the matrix could put him on par with the creators to some degree....if worse comes to worse (and if alkanphel knows what has been done to him) he has the potential to heal him of this, course this may not even happen as jason holds an intense hatred for the latter.. But you never know whats possible when the enemy of your enemy becomes your friend.